The Line of Customization: When enough is enough (If it's even added)

[Mad Matt]

I could live a long and happy life without letting people graffiti their cars :-)

Let them pick the colours as in GT4, although I'd like to see the return of the "race" modified final modification.

 

[DK]

As long as it doesn't include neon underlighting and a sound system "in da trunk", I'll be fine.

 

[Hypo_Pylon]

As long as it doesn't include neon underlighting and a sound system "in da trunk", I'll be fine.

Now hang on... neon underlighting AND night racing? that might be quite cool

 

[Topsu]

Daddies boys driving around the Ring in their purple-glowing BMWs.

 

[The Stalker]

There was a screenshot from a show with kaz talking, that showed that EVERY level of the car will be customized everything internal and external and plus some.

There was also a screen shot before GT4 was released promising online racing wasn't there?

Seriously though, a livery editor along the lines of Forza 3 would be great, as that system is SOOO in depth.

Sometimes i'll spend hours designing vinyls to see on the store front.

I think in this day now, with online racing available, it's important to be able to customise your car.

 

[magicalgin]

I'd like them to introduce the windtunnel system stuff from NFS (but more improved...).

 

[hornet_burnout]

I'd like and expect a GT release to have:

a) Parts:
wheels (for looks and performance with different sizes)
hoods (different color and intakes)
aerodynamic parts (wings, skirts, spoilers)
But all true to what is currently offered by specialized manufacturers for each machine.

b) Paint:
Just "racing mods" that would make the cars look like they actually do when they are raced.

My personal opinion about "personalizing" by graffiti, neon and stuff like that is that you're just playing dress-up and for that you should maybe ... get a doll?

 

[Hypo_Pylon]

Same here but please no graffiti and stuff.
I'm all for the tuning customization side of things. Heck I want my GT5 DC5 to look and sound like my real life DC5 with Mugen headers, exhaust, front/rear underspoilers, side step, Ings bonnet etc

 

[Tenacious D]

I think in this day now, with online racing available, it's important to be able to customise your car.

Yeah, seriously. If GT5 doesn't have a livery editor, I can hardly wait to hear the arguments between clubs of who "officially" picked the Raybrig NSX as their online club racer.

Some of you people afraid of livery editors must be shut-ins who never leave the house, watch TV or read a magazine...

 

[TokyoDrift]

Some of you people afraid of livery editors must be shut-ins who never leave the house, watch TV or read a magazine...

Quite the opposite really. Those who don't want it are those who are out socialising and do not have the time to go painting their cars like gamers who never leave the house and spend all night locked in their room.

Yes, what I wrote there was a bit silly, much like the quote.

 

[sher_da_putt]

The more the merrier, at least that way im not restricted, I dont care if I see something out of pimp my ride online, it will differentiate my styles to thiers. Kaz already sneaked us bodykits, rims and spoilers anyway in an interview back at tokyo game show.

 

[Tenacious D]

Yes, what I wrote there was a bit silly, much like the quote.

And how is my quote as silly?

Obviously people trick up their cars in ridiculous ways in real life. Is this dumb? Well, yeah, waste of money and a huge neon sign pointing to an overinflated ego. Should we then make laws eliminating paint and customization shops around the world? For that matter, should we outlaw race cars?

 

[FrancisBenjamin]

pay a visit to the FM3 "Drifters Lounge" and look at the post "Show your car 2.0"

some AMAZING stuff being done there... YES SOME of the stuff is kinda midnight Club type rubish...

but MOST of the work people do there is really good down to the bone JDM, Drift, Tuner mods and visuals.

if GT5 customization is anything like FM3 i will be happy.

plus Livery can be really interesting... but i doubt GT5 will have one...

i know most people want GT for the "Drive" but in all honesty... games are made to be fun... you want to race a car and get a real feel for it??? go do it in real life...

 

[eSZee]

^well put.........

 

[N155AN]

i would like to see real life body kits, and changeable size for the alloys (thats a must)
but i can understand that making body kits for 1000 cars may be difficult, but theres always hope lol

 

[Metfanant]

in all honesty...if "ricer" kits are included...what is the problem??...does it hurt you in anyway?? No. Are you forced to put them on your car? No.

 

[Tenacious D]

Here are some "silly ricers" I created in Forza 2 and 3 - forgive MS's silly compression:

I created many of the decals myself.

 

[Dijital Majik]

Man, I never cease to be amazed by the quality of some of the liveries in FM3. A livery editor is a must for GT5!

 

[hornet_burnout]

pay a visit to the FM3 "Drifters Lounge" and look at the post "Show your car 2.0"

some AMAZING stuff being done there... YES SOME of the stuff is kinda midnight Club type rubish...

but MOST of the work people do there is really good down to the bone JDM, Drift, Tuner mods and visuals.

if GT5 customization is anything like FM3 i will be happy.

plus Livery can be really interesting... but i doubt GT5 will have one...

i know most people want GT for the "Drive" but in all honesty... games are made to be fun... you want to race a car and get a real feel for it??? go do it in real life...

^well put.........

And the opposite could be said... want liveries? Go play Forza. And leave the REAL DRIVING SIMULATOR as it is for those who love it for it.

We the guys who don't say that "I want liveries or the games fails", or at least me, don't want the game NOT to have it. We just don't care much for it and have other (driviving and simulation related) priorities.

 

[N155AN]

some nice liverys, however i agree with the post above, if they arent included GT5 is nowhere near a fail, this would just be an added bonus to help your car stand out from the others when you race online, lol i hate in prologue when every car is the same and mostly the same colour

 

[Hypo_Pylon]

Online racing in prologue looks like a real life track day to me, I don't see that many cars at track days all liveried up to the nines, mainly because they're daily drivers I guess.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not dead set against a livery editor, some of the designs can be really very good like Tenacious D's. But my concern is for every one of them there will be some hideous stuff on some really beautifully designed cars . Anyway for those that want it I hope it's in, the more features the better IMO 👍

 

[Metfanant]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not dead set against a livery editor, some of the designs can be really very good like Tenacious D's. But my concern is for every one of them there will be some hideous stuff on some really beautifully designed cars .

but really who cares? if someone wants to put a 4ft aluminum wing, 23 inch chrome spinners, neon lights and a wild paint job on Ferrari 458 then more power to them...

1. its a video game
2. they like it
3. it doesnt hurt you or anyone else in ANY way
4. nobody would be forcing you to do it

 

[Hypo_Pylon]

but really who cares? if someone wants to put a 4ft aluminum wing, 23 inch chrome spinners, neon lights and a wild paint job on Ferrari 458 then more power to them...

1. its a video game
2. they like it
3. it doesnt hurt you or anyone else in ANY way
4. nobody would be forcing you to do it

I realise that mate, that's why I wrote this at the end of my post, see?

Anyway for those that want it I hope it's in, the more features the better IMO 👍

 

[Dijital Majik]

Firstly, I don't understand the infatuation with the cars others will be driving. A livery editor would make it possible to (re)create the cars YOU want. In my opinion, owning and making the cars I want outweighs seeing stupid cars on the racetrack.

Secondly, it's like saying you don't want to race with punters. Fair enough, if you're in a serious racing private room, as I assume many here would like to be in, how likely are you to see cars with penises painted on?

There are hideous liveries in real life racing too, just as there are silly mods on the roads. I might be going all marketing here, but we're in 2010, people want to have the choice to interact with their product on their own terms.

Personally I couldn't care less for Pimp my ride style mods, but personally I don't care if they are in as long as the type of racing mods I'm after are in. Racing online, I can find others who share my passions, and interact with them.

 

[hornet_burnout]

Firstly, I don't understand the infatuation with the cars others will be driving. A livery editor would make it possible to (re)create the cars YOU want. In my opinion, owning and making the cars I want outweighs seeing stupid cars on the racetrack.

Secondly, it's like saying you don't want to race with punters. Fair enough, if you're in a serious racing private room, as I assume many here would like to be in, how likely are you to see cars with penises painted on?

There are hideous liveries in real life racing too, just as there are silly mods on the roads. I might be going all marketing here, but we're in 2010, people want to have the choice to interact with their product on their own terms.

Personally I couldn't care less for Pimp my ride style mods, but personally I don't care if they are in as long as the type of racing mods I'm after are in. Racing online, I can find others who share my passions, and interact with them.

As I said, priorities. "Serious mods", then "dress-up mods" 👍

But... going deeper in to the topic "When enough is enough", I'd say people driving cars with penises painted on would make GT look like a "ricer" game, and not a "serious" simulator.

So I wouldn't expect too much freedom on that area. That's what I think will happen if it happens, and also what I wish for. To be restricted to "personalization" or "no pimpin' allowed".

 

[Hypo_Pylon]

Serious question because I genuinely don't know. Do the likes of iRacing and other serious sims have a livery editor like FM3?

 

[Tenacious D]

I think PC sims leave it to people to use art programs like Photoshop and Illustrator, where you really can make a gonad-mobile.

(liveries) would just be an added bonus to help your car stand out from the others when you race online, lol i hate in prologue when every car is the same and mostly the same colour

While I agree that not having a livery shop in GT5 =/= fail, it would be a sore point with many people. There are basically three reasons why a livery editor plus race mod would be a key ingredient in GT5:

• Online clubs and racing teams would be able to create liveries to identify themselves online, much like real life racing teams.
• We will be able to recreate any race car from history which is in the GT5 stable, or create our own, much like racers in real life.
• And then there are those who simply want to enjoy painting up cars, much like car nuts in real life.

Notice all that "real life" in there.

See, you don't have to participate in any aspect of GT5 you don't want to. Drifting is in GT5 too. I think drifting is dumb. Should I then rant to everyone that they shouldn't be allowed to do it, since it has nothing to do with "driving" or racing?

Of course, it is a part of motorsports. Then again, so is livery painting...

What I don't want to see is what I said in the previous page:

If GT5 doesn't have a livery editor, I can hardly wait to hear the arguments between clubs of who "officially" picked the Raybrig NSX as their online club racer.

 

[hornet_burnout]

(...) Notice all that "real life" in there.

See, you don't have to participate in any aspect of GT5 you don't want to. Drifting is in GT5 too. I think drifting is dumb. Should I then rant to everyone that they shouldn't be allowed to do it, since it has nothing to do with "driving" or racing?

Of course, it is a part of motorsports. Then again, so is livery painting... (...)

Point. And agree to an extent. As long as parts and mods are there, the neons and such can also be... ok, I understand and doesn't bother me.
(don't agree with drifting not being driving, but that's another subject)

But... in real life things already get a bit out of hand, now imagine a simple "spray paint tool" is provided to allow freedom of creation. Any kid "punter" can paint the "gonad-mobile" as you say, including offensive wording and go disrupt and make a mess of other peoples races "in style". I do not think KZ will or do I want him to leave room for that to happen, not the GT style.

So maybe that's the "enough" line?

 

[eight6er]

I think there should be as much customization as possible, being a simulation it should have every mod you can do in real life, but unfortunately that would be almost impossible.
The thing I would like most as far as styling goes is do propper wheel options, like real life you should be able to choose a wheel diameter, width, offset and tyre width. I think this is more important than bodykits or spoilers as far as looks are concerned, and if there is bodykits every part should be exchangable not just set bodykits.

The colours or graphics that people choose to put on cars does not change what type of game this is.

 

[Tenacious D]

(don't agree with drifting not being driving, but that's another subject)

That would make an interesting debate, because of basically three factors:

1. You aren't drifting to be going anywhere.

2. You aren't drifting to beat anyone across a finish line first.

3. You're just basically ruining tires for the sheer heck of it.

Or if you're in a drift competition, roasting tires for points, however the heck they figure that kind of stuff out.

So I guess we're in agreement then. If you see anyone with a nadmobile in your server, or have F-bombs all over their car, you should have the right to punt them from your race.

Plus, you realize that server and game options will probably be there to block custom paint jobs, so you never have to see a cool original car.

Speaking of, how can you find anything objectionable, when there are all those horrible drift car liveries??

And okay, I find most of them to be pretty darn awesome, I have several in my Forza garage I paid for, but seriously dude. Some of them should be sprayed over with purple paint.