The most recalled cars

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From SUVs to sedans, a look at which 2006 model year cars experienced the biggest recalls

So much for Toyota's vaunted reputation for quality. On July 18, the Japanese auto giant announced a recall of 418,570 vehicles worldwide for faulty engine parts. This follows an even larger global recall of nearly one million cars and trucks at the end of May for faulty parts that could cause drivers to lose control of the steering wheel.

The current recall affects about 150,000 cars sold outside of Japan, mainly in the U.S. and Canada, though no accidents have been reported due to the faulty engine component that could lead to oil leakage. In the U.S. more than 34,000 cars were recalled, including 26,200 Echo and 8,500 Prius models. While Toyota is no stranger to recalls—in May 2005 it recalled more than 750,000 pickup trucks and every single 2006 Toyota model line from the Avalon to the Tundra has experienced some form of recall—this latest round may finally dent its Teflon image if steps aren't taken to improve quality.

RECALLS ABOUND. The high induced by the new car smell may indeed be increasingly undercut as recalls make headlines industrywide. Auto recalls can affect components of every type, from those as seemingly insignificant as tail-light bulbs to more considerable components, like those that led to the now infamous Ford-Firestone tire scandal. And 2006 has seen its share of high-profile recalls for both foreign and domestic auto companies.

Last week, Nissan announced a recall of Altimas and Sentras affecting 96,800 vehicles that were susceptible to engine fires due to excessive oil consumption. Up to 24 fires have been reported to the company.

In May, 31,000 units of the Chevrolet Corvette were recalled by General Motors, because there was mounting evidence that some roofs could come unglued at high speeds.

Many recalls are preemptive, announced by the maker for unrealized but potentially disastrous consequences. Last month, for instance, Ford Motor's (F ) Volvo division recalled 109,000 XC90 SUVs after engineers detected loosening ball-joints in the steering mechanism that could possibly break and make steering more difficult. However, no crashes or injuries had been reported.

TO THE DATABASE. The National Highway Transportation Safety Administration (NHTSA) manages and tracks all U.S. recalls. It maintains an extensive, detailed database of all problems, which consumers can use to find out whether a vehicle they own or are considering buying has a recall associated with it. But, the system is not intended to help compare models, let alone predict problems based on past performance.

Some consumer-oriented publications also track recalls.
Consumer Reports
has a section devoted to recalls, but it covers consumer products beyond cars. Edmunds.com, the popular automotive online search site, just launched a safety-oriented section. But, like NHTSA's data, it is better suited to looking up information on a specific vehicle.

Organizations such as J.D. Power — which, like BusinessWeek.com, is owned by McGraw-Hill — measure initial quality and consumer satisfaction, which does not take recall history into consideration.

BusinessWeek.com set out to examine which 2006 models have been recalled the most. Though the problems may range in severity, multiple recalls are a significant annoyance for consumers. In conjunction with Edmunds.com, we found that multiple recalls affected companies in nearly every vehicle segment and price point, from the proletarian Civic to the upscale Land Rover Range Rover Sport.

RECALL VIGILANCE. The ultimate gauge of the severity of recall issues at distinct manufacturers may remain out of reach. BusinessWeek.com contacted major analysts and auto-data tracking companies in an attempt to compare the number of vehicles recalled with the number of vehicles sold. But, because auto companies most often track sales by calendar dates and recall data is organized by model-year date (a 2006 Altima, for example, went on sale last year), direct comparison is not possible.

It is important to note that not all models in a recall may be affected. Cars are built in batches, and not all models of a recalled vehicle may suffer from the same faulty component. Moreover, as parts sharing has increased, recalls often encompass a variety of brands and vehicle types. One 292,000-unit recall due to faulty headlamps from a third-party supplier, Walnut (Calif.)-based Anzo USA, for instance, affects Hondas, Toyotas, Fords, and Chevrolets alike.

So consumers need to remain vigilant before, during, and after a purchase. Government crash surveys, as well as independent reliability and quality rankings, should still serve as the main guideposts for buyers. But, no doubt about it, recalls have crept into the buying equation.

http://biz.yahoo.com/weekend/mostrecall_1.html

HAha toyota messes up again.
 
Snortin Norton
Like 3 times in the last 50 years.

I don't think Audi could say that.

A company cannot live in the past forever, especially seeing as toyotas, are simple and basic when it comes to the engineering and technology involved. Who will want to carry on buying the slow and boring vehicles if theyre no longer reliable?

Id argue that skoda is more reliable than toyota.
 
It'll pass and people will continue to buy them just like they do the Ford Focus after its record of recalls in 2002.
 
Poverty
A company cannot live in the past forever, especially seeing as toyotas, are simple and basic when it comes to the engineering and technology involved. Who will want to carry on buying the slow and boring vehicles if theyre no longer reliable?

Oh sweet Jesus.
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And Audi (and Skoda, for that matter) are moving the game on...how?
Putting in bigger (borrowed) engines will only get you so far.
 
what bigger engines are you talking off? And the prius is seriously flawed, and had serious reliability issues. So not only is toyotas flagship car seriously unreliable, its the only car they sell with recent boundry pushing technology, and its unreliable along with theyre simpleton cars.

And those other cars you posted are concepts, shall I post some concepts too?

As for hybrid technology audi sold the first hybrid car in the world in the 80's found out that hybrid technoloy isnt all that, and only decided to soon start selling a hybrid again as people specifically in america are falling for the gimmick.

as for audi and skoda moving on the game do I really have to tell you? And what borrowed engines are you talking of?
 
Poverty
A company cannot live in the past forever, especially seeing as toyotas, are simple and basic when it comes to the engineering and technology involved. Who will want to carry on buying the slow and boring vehicles if theyre no longer reliable?

Id argue that skoda is more reliable than toyota.
Highlighted part is a good point. Granted, they do have some cars like the hybrids and Lexus vehicles, which are technologically advanced. But I have read before that Toyota often opts for more proven technology that is reliable, and do not take many chances. Reliability is a big selling point of Toyotas.
 
Poverty
what bigger engines are you talking off? And the prius is seriously flawed, and had serious reliability issues. So not only is toyotas flagship car seriously unreliable, its the only car they sell with recent boundry pushing technology, and its unreliable along with theyre simpleton cars.
*snip*
as for audi and skoda moving on the game do I really have to tell you? And what borrowed engines are you talking of?

Audi- Lambo V10 in the S8 and S6.

Skoda- The 2.0FSi unit from the Golf GTi (although it's getting widely used now).
 
ultrabeat
Audi- Lambo V10 in the S8 and S6.

Skoda- The 2.0FSi unit from the Golf GTi (although it's getting widely used now).

:lol:

So you are actually proposing that each sperate VAG company develop theyre own engines :lol:

And the V10 in the S8 and S6 is not the same engine as to the ones in the lambo. Similiar yes, but not the same.

And the 2.0T FSI has never been a VW exclusive engine.
 
Poverty

This is one of a number of threads you have started that while containing well sourced and quoted text and articles, seem to contain a huge amount of anti-japanese manufcaturers bias in them.

You have picked up on a few, mainly minor, recalls from Japanese manufacturers and acting as if its the end of the road for them.

Point of fact, all manufacturers have recalls, every single one of them. The two main ones you seem to have picked on actually have (and still maintain) an incrediably good record for reliability and customer satisfaction.

You should be aware that informing a customer of a potential problem and resolving it quickly and promptly can actually increase brand loyalty and the chances of re-purchase. As it re-enforces the manufcaturers commitment to keep the customer happy.

A real world example of this is my own Celica, I had notcied a small (roughly 1cm2) patch of laquer lifting on one of my alloys, Toyota replaced all five alloy wheels FOC. Most manufacaturers would only have replaced the one affected.

In terms of recall numbers (and as someone who has worked in the industry for a considerable amount of time) I can assure you that Nissan and particularly Toyota are well down the leaderboard in terms of recall volumes.

I know of huge number of product recalls that have affected VW, Audi, BMW, Renault, Ford, Vauxhall/Opel/GM, Fiat and perhaps the worst offender of all Land Rover and when it existed MG Rover.

Just because you seem to have picked up on a few recent recalls, that normally would not make the news (and the reason they have is the current GM - Renault/Nissan things) does not make these strange at all.

Situations like this become a problem when manufacaturers try and hide recalls as I know a number have, because if you get caught in that situation it is undefendable.

Regards

Scaff
 
No anti japanese bias from me, and I understand what your saying, but some people are under the impression that toyota are reliability gods. They are reliable machines, but they have been slipping lately.
 
Poverty
So you are actually proposing that each sperate VAG company develop theyre own engines
It it so much to ask that the uber-exclusive supercar maker not put their engines in sedans? What do you think the marketability of Bugatti would be as a flagship if they put the W16 motor in a Golf? Of course, considering the fact that the engine is essentially an Audi engine anyways, I guess it's rather acceptible.
ultrabeat
Audi- Lambo V10 in the S8 and S6.
Which, likewise, can be viewed as Lambo-Audi: Audi V8 +2 in Gallardo.
 
Poverty
No anti japanese bias from me, and I understand what your saying, but some people are under the impression that toyota are reliability gods. They are reliable machines, but they have been slipping lately.

Well I have to say thats certainly not the impression I think most people would get from your first post!

The article may start with Toyota but it goes on to say that recalls effect every manufacturer and that its almost imposiable to quantify recalls against vehicle sales (thus making your opinion that they are slipping almost impossiable to prove).

Now given this wide ranging and open article discussing recalls against all manufacturers what do you post.

Poverty
HAha toyota messes up again.

Now if you don't think thats going to come across as a bias in regard to Toyota then I don't know what is!

How many recalls a manufcaturer issues is an almost irrelivent point (and I worked on recall customer service for a year at Renault UK), its how the dealers and manufacturers handle the recalls and treat the customers.

Are yhou aware that certain manufacturers will issue one recall to customers, but when the car comes in will actually carry out work in many other areas. Work that more open manufacturers would issue seperate recalls for. This I have experienced many times.


In that regard the target of your post actually does far better than almost anyone else in the market, why do you think that Lexus/Toyota get such high JDF power results? Its not just about reliability (which is excellent), but also how a problem is dealt with when it arrises.

Regards

Scaff
 
lol forgot about that, but I quote myself

but some people are under the impression that toyota are reliability gods.

Hence my haha. Its just that toyota reliability has been posted about alot lately on the websites I visit, and I thought I would share. If the same happened to audi I would post that too (ok maybe not audi, but bmw:p )
 
Poverty
lol forgot about that, but I quote myself



Hence my haha. Its just that toyota reliability has been posted about alot lately on the websites I visit, and I thought I would share. If the same happened to audi I would post that too (ok maybe not audi, but bmw:p )

No big surprise that Toyota recall make the news at present, as they battle for the world No. 1 manufacturer slot and the GM - Renault/Nissan issue is in the news its hardly a surprise.

Its also quite common knowledge that Toyota generally have little issue with issuing releases in regard to recalls, unlike a couple of rather large German manufcaturers I could mention, who have gone to great pains in the past to not talk about recalls.

In that vein any VW/Audi group fan would do well to take care on the subject, some of us remember the original Audi TT launch very well. Now that was a recall and a half (and one that Audi originally did not acknowledge).

Regards

Scaff
 
Poverty
:lol:

So you are actually proposing that each sperate VAG company develop theyre own engines :lol:

No, but to that same token, you are proposing that all Toyotas are dull and slow?

Laughable.
 
ultrabeat
No, but to that same token, you are proposing that all Toyotas are dull and slow?

Laughable.

:rolleyes:

They dont sell the celica anymore or the mr2 or the supra. Show me a fast toyota please. And when I mean fast I mean around 270hp.

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The least dull toyota has 215hp. :lol: In the bigger picture of things are you seriously gonna carry on trying to tell me that toyotas, atleast the ones in the UK arent dull or slow?
 
They don't sell anything of 270hp or above here (not under the Toyota name anyway).

But I really hate all these painfully slow cars with less than 270hp.
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Ever think about how handling can affect speed?
The cars handle fine, and although they don't have the Quattro 4WD handling, they don't cost Quattro 4WD prices.

And you can't say Toyota has never made an interesting car, that idea is dead in the water.
 
how did I guess for some reason you would decide to post about the elise :rolleyes: Next time I see a elise owner Im gonna congratulate him on his toyota, or wait depending on the model year that might be a rover 💡
 
Maybe because you opened the debate up?

270hp does not necessarily equal speed. Why have one set of ideas about one manufacturer and a different set for another?
 
ultrabeat
The cars handle fine, and although they don't have the Quattro 4WD handling, they don't cost Quattro 4WD prices.
Or carry Quattro 4WD weight, and Quattro 4WD understeer. Seriously, Poverty? You are fighting a losing battle here.
And since you don't seem to think the Elise counts as a sporty car, here:
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Hold up where exactly did I say the elise isnt a sporty car. Is the elise a toyota all of a sudden?

As for quattro understeer thats how you set the system up. The quattro system in theyre everyday cars are setup for understeer, as they consider it to be safer, and when that was out of the equation audi quattro cars would dominate every racing league they had entered as a factory backed effort, which would usually result in quattro being banned for the subsequent years.

270hp does not necessarily equal speed. Why have one set of ideas about one manufacturer and a different set for another?

Dont put words in my mouth ;)

The cars handle fine, and although they don't have the Quattro 4WD handling, they don't cost Quattro 4WD prices.

Yes they handle fine but not very sporting or class leading far from it infact. And the skoda octavia VRS 4X4 didnt cost "quattro prices". Audi's in general are cheaper than equivelant MB and BMW's so idont see the point of that argument. You get what you pay for.
 
Poverty
As for quattro understeer thats how you set the system up. The quattro system in theyre everyday cars are setup for understeer, as they consider it to be safer, and when that was out of the equation audi quattro cars would dominate every racing league they had entered as a factory backed effort, which would usually result in quattro being banned for the subsequent years.

Almost all road cars are set-up to understeer on the limit, however most of the Audi range (regardless of drivetrain) have suffered from quite serious understeer issues, mainly due to the location of the engine over the front wheel line.

It is something that recently Audi have worked hard on, particularly with the RS4 to better compete against the M3, Audi themselves admit as much.

The same issue has also affected Audi race cars, particularly the rally quattro's, while they performed stunningly on gravel and winter rallies they had major issues on tight tarmac rallies. I have footage of group B quattro's unable to make tight hairpins due to excessive understeer issues, and that was with Walter Rohl driving!!

The incident I believe you are refering to was the BTCC quattro which was banned, a move I personally did not agree with as the car could have been retained in the series with a better ballast system to closer match the differing drivetrains. However if one did want to get pedantic on the issue, the quattro itself was not banned from the BTCC, rather 4wd systems were. The end result is the same, but I'm sure the BTCC organisers would love to argue that one with you.

Regards

Scaff
 
I mentioned the AWD banning as people also seem to thing that RWD>>4WD which is not true at all, if set up correctly. There are too many variables to say as it depends on the aim of the vehicle but the perfect car would have 4WD.

The godzillas AWD got banned too because they were dominating, and godzillas AWD shows how if used correctly AWD is superior to RWD in most applications.

Almost all road cars are set-up to understeer on the limit, however most of the Audi range (regardless of drivetrain) have suffered from quite serious understeer issues, mainly due to the location of the engine over the front wheel line.

Yes this is fully acknowledged as its still remniscences of the VW chassis sharing days. Although I fail to understand how we somehow ended up from boring toyotas to audis understeering.
 
Poverty
:rolleyes:

They dont sell the celica anymore or the mr2 or the supra. Show me a fast toyota please. And when I mean fast I mean around 270hp.

Edit:

The least dull toyota has 215hp. :lol: In the bigger picture of things are you seriously gonna carry on trying to tell me that toyotas, atleast the ones in the UK arent dull or slow?

The Lexus GS450h has 340hp.
 
Poverty
:rolleyes:

They dont sell the celica anymore or the mr2 or the supra. Show me a fast toyota please. And when I mean fast I mean around 270hp.

Edit:

The least dull toyota has 215hp. :lol: In the bigger picture of things are you seriously gonna carry on trying to tell me that toyotas, atleast the ones in the UK arent dull or slow?
Um, yes, there are fast Toyotas. But they're sold under the Lexus brand name. We'll see how fast Audi is when the LF-A is released. 500Hp won't be too dull then, will it?
 
Poverty
No anti japanese bias from me, and I understand what your saying, but some people are under the impression that toyota are reliability gods. They are reliable machines, but they have been slipping lately.

Well, I think you've got an anti-Japanese bias in the way you present things sometimes, but I've been known to see bias everywhere.:confused:

Those JD Power charts aren't recent enough. Hasn't Hyundai taken over the top spot just this year? It's nothing against Toyota/Lexus, of course, but it clearly implies two things: they are not perfect, and they may be slipping. Given Toyota's history and market share, this probably won't last long. Most of the problems seem to be related to hybrids anyway, the newest technology on the block.
 
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