The Race to 6:59.999. King of The Ring Challenge.

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Interesting thread indeed but a little misleading IMHO, sure "real life" cars come with a variety of tyres and you can buy better ones, but in GT5 I think Kaz has gone for a happy medium. Also someone in that thread suggests Comforts are the only street legal tyres and that Sports tyres are "semi slicks", which I don't agree with. I think Sports tyres are premium street tyres more suited to higher performance cars, and the only true track tyres or slicks in the game are the Racing tyres. Which is why the Zonda R and Furai have racing hards if i remember correctly.

Anyway i guess that's an argument for that thread, not this!
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Thank you.

The best I could manage was 7:22 with the McLaren F1. This is a tough challenge for sure.
 
With sport mediums on the Veyron and some grass cutting I can do a sub 7 minute lap.(6:55)
I think it may be possible to do a clean lap and still beat 7 minutes.

With sport hards about seven twenty is the best I could do.
Too gripless.
 
Just did a 7:25 with the Enzo in 3 laps...probably could reduce some time but not sure about 25sec. Will continue at this.
 
Just ran a 7:08 with a stock Bugatti Veyron...Missed the apex and breaking points on a few turns so a better time is possible but not sure if I can do a sub-7 yet. The understeer, for me, is most noticeable in the last section heading towards the long straight away. It's like trying to turn on ice.
 
Peluski17
Just ran a 7:08 with a stock Bugatti Veyron...Missed the apex and breaking points on a few turns so a better time is possible but not sure if I can do a sub-7 yet. The understeer, for me, is most noticeable in the last section heading towards the long straight away. It's like trying to turn on ice.
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Yeah, I think with a skilled driver a sub 7 is definitely possible with the Veyron.

I just put in a 7:08.29 with a Veyron on cold tires. I made some mistakes along the way too. I don't know if I can get sub 7, but I am sure a talented driver could.

How much horsepower do your guys' Veyrons have? I have two, one only has 1017 HP and the other I just bought has 1036. Not sure what is with the 1017 HP one... I've given it an oil change and it only has 50 miles. The 1036 HP one has 0 miles.
 
kweiss
Yeah, I think with a skilled driver a sub 7 is definitely possible with the Veyron.

I just put in a 7:08.29 with a Veyron on cold tires. I made some mistakes along the way too. I don't know if I can get sub 7, but I am sure a talented driver could.

How much horsepower do your guys' Veyrons have? I have two, one only has 1017 HP and the other I just bought has 1036. Not sure what is with the 1017 HP one... I've given it an oil change and it only has 50 miles. The 1036 HP one has 0 miles.
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Yeah I did my hot lap on the first lap with cold tires (odd how that works lol)...before I started driving the veyron I think it had 1004HP (could have been 1014HP) - there was a 4 in there. Not sure where it is now. If any car has a chance I say it would be this one.

BTW - using G25 if anyone was curious.
 
Ran a 7.01.9 today in the Bugatti Veyron. I lost 2 secs in the final sector so I know a sub-7 is possible. Probably will be able to get it tomorrow night.

My veyron has 1005HP and ~1880kg
 
Peluski17
Ran a 7.01.9 today in the Bugatti Veyron. I lost 2 secs in the final sector so I know a sub-7 is possible. Probably will be able to get it tomorrow night.

My veyron has 1005HP and ~1880kg
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It's on - I'll have a go at it tomorrow. I did a few laps today to get myself familiar with the handling of the stock Veyron...Terrible. Turned ABS off, handled a lot better since I could lock the tyres slightly to spin its ass round corners. Ran mine around 995 HP so I could break it in. Didn't want to do a killer lap only to have done it with too much power. Should be better tomorrow though.
 
ugabugaz
It's on - I'll have a go at it tomorrow. I did a few laps today to get myself familiar with the handling of the stock Veyron...Terrible. Turned ABS off, handled a lot better since I could lock the tyres slightly to spin its ass round corners. Ran mine around 995 HP so I could break it in. Didn't want to do a killer lap only to have done it with too much power. Should be better tomorrow though.
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loool spin its ass around
 
The guy in that video driving the Yellowbird has the biggest balls in the world. Also I note 3 video edits in the video where he probably spun out.
 
FYI you can change the torque distribution on the real veyron so if you want to change that go ahead.
 
Just did a 6:59:291 with the Bugatti Veyron. Youtube video should be available sometime tonight. I'll post it here.
 
Peluski17
Just did a 6:59:291 with the Bugatti Veyron. Youtube video should be available sometime tonight. I'll post it here.
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Really would like to see that one. I came close, so I'm wondering what you did...Didn't have the patience for a perfect run.
 
ugabugaz
Really would like to see that one. I came close, so I'm wondering what you did...Didn't have the patience for a perfect run.
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I hear you...it's so hard to force yourself to continue around the track after messing up..especially if it's in the first or second sector. I did a lot of my laps on cold tires (1st lap) but this one I did on my 2nd lap I believe. Of course I had many restarts previously.

The run isn't perfect as there is still some time to be found, but it will do. In my opinion it is a rather clean lap. I know at one point I went a little wide but believe only two tires went off.

You really have to fight this car to get what you want.
 
Peluski17
I hear you...it's so hard to force yourself to continue around the track after messing up..especially if it's in the first or second sector. I did a lot of my laps on cold tires (1st lap) but this one I did on my 2nd lap I believe. Of course I had many restarts previously.

The run isn't perfect as there is still some time to be found, but it will do. In my opinion it is a rather clean lap. I know at one point I went a little wide but believe only two tires went off.

You really have to fight this car to get what you want.
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Agree with you a hundred percent. Like I said in a previous post of mine, I couldn't stand the way it handled with ABS, so I switched it off and that's mainly what brought a bit of inconsistency to me. Using a DS3 isn't the best way to go about braking without ABS, hehe. The first sector is one of my fastest, as is the sector after the karoussel, but eh, I was just a little off overall. Congratulations ;)
 
We have a winner ladies and gentlemen. Very very nice lap. Also thank you for going through the tuning options to show that the car was stock. It may take me a while but I am going to come up with some sort of prize (nothing too big, but decent none the less). Congrats!
 
Congratulations Peluski17 :cheers:

I hope this thread will stay open to add more times in the future ;)
 
Do not forget that the second purpose of this thread is to serve as a leaderboard for other stock cars even if they cannot beat the 7 min mark. I am going to try my luck with the F1.
 
Thanks guys! The beers on me 👍 Paskowitz don't worry about a prize. Finally beating the 7min mark is quite enough in itself.

The next cars I will be trying are:
ZZII
MclarenF1
Superveloce
S2000 GT1 Turbo (If deemed legal)

I need to find the R390, the saleen S7,and the Cerbera speed 12.

Based on my times I do not think the Enzo will be able to beat the mark. The closest I've gotten to beating the mark with another car is the ZZII.
 
Did some searching on mygranturismo.net and sorted the car list by power/weight ratio. Potentially, there are 5 other road cars that have a greater power/weight ratio than the Bugatti Veyron which means, in my opinion, that there is a good chance these five cars could also break the 7min barrier.

They are (figures from the site):
Cerbera Speed 12 '00 @ 612 w/kg (power/weight)
ZZII '00 @ 425 w/kg
S2000 GT1 Turbo @ 418 w/kg
McLaren F1 '94 @ 418 w/kg
Enzo Ferrari '02 @ 398 w/kg
Bugatti Veyron 16.4 '09 @ 397 w/kg

So, if anyone is attempting to break the 7 minute marker I would definitely recommend trying one of these cars first. Most of these are already being put through the paces.
 
I know the F1 is possible. ZZII probably. Cebera and S2000 are questionable due to the ambiguity surrounding their production and street legality. Lets be honest, they really are not road cars. I guess I can allow them with an asterisk...
 
I can agree with that. There is really only one Cerbera Speed 12 left (source wikipedia - accurate?) and the idea to bring it to the streets was canceled after tests deemed it impossible/too dangerous to drive on the road. However, one enthusiast does have it.

I do not know much about the Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo, but S2000's are street legal..is this one in particular? That's up to debate.

However, going on the way GT5 represents RM's and RC's I would have to say neither is one and that they fall into either a street car/concept car category. If this were a production car argument then there would be no gray area...both are not.

So yeah, the use of asterisks are just fine in my opinion as there really is a gray area with these two.
 
Just ran a 6:59:733 with the stock Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo. I do not know the exact HP and weight the real car has so I just went with whatever was 100% power limiter and stock weight. The only thing I changed was maxing the downforce on the car which is legal based on competition rules because the wings come standard with the car. It also comes with a tuneable lsd and suspension but I did not mess with those since I do not know how to tune properly lol.

I'm uploading the video now on youtube and it should be posted late tonight (around midnight if all goes well)

I did the run in Free Run of GTLife's practice mode. Real grip and sports hard tires. No driving aids with the exception of ABS=1. My S2000 had 605HP and 1120kg for weight.
 
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Just ran a 6:59:733 with the stock Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo. I do not know the exact HP and weight the real car has so I just went with whatever was 100% power limiter and stock weight. The only thing I changed was maxing the downforce on the car which is legal based on competition rules because the wings come standard with the car. It also comes with a tuneable lsd and suspension but I did not mess with those since I do not know how to tune properly lol.

I'm uploading the video now on youtube and it should be posted late tonight (around midnight if all goes well)

I did the run in Free Run of GTLife's practice mode. Real grip and sports hard tires. No driving aids with the exception of ABS=1. My S2000 had 605HP and 1120kg for weight.
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Yet again you make me doubt you're human! Congratulations, By the way, have you done a McLaren F1 hotrun? Just curious as to what you're putting down as I seem to be a bit off, yet driving quite well.
 
Here's the video. The quality appears a little worse than the Bugatti video which is strange because I haven't changed any settings on my android phone. Also the screen refresh rate is pretty annoying in the video. I do not know why it was worse this time around...I'll try and get a better quality video of just the lap only tomorrow (if possible).



@ugabugaz I've only done a handful of laps with the McLaren F1 and have only managed a 7:10.630. Based on my driving style I can't keep it hitting the sub-7 splits yet. I'll have to continue at it.

Other car times of mine (as of July 10th):
ZZII '00: 7:06.535 (only messed with downforce)
Enzo: 7:25.768 (3 laps before trying Bugatti)

I'm seriously doubting the Enzo can do this. The ZZII I still have faith in but it's been a battle to go any faster. Seems like it just doesn't have the horses. Also began testing the Saleen S7 and it appears to be too slow stock. Still need to try the Cerbera Speed 12 and R390 Road Car. I'm not sure there are much more cars that can do this. The McLaren could probably easily do this if it wasn't such a pain to keep on the road.
 
Peluski17
@ugabugaz I've only done a handful of laps with the McLaren F1 and have only managed a 7:10.630. Based on my driving style I can't keep it hitting the sub-7 splits yet. I'll have to continue at it.


I'm seriously doubting the Enzo can do this. The ZZII I still have faith in but it's been a battle to go any faster. Seems like it just doesn't have the horses. Also began testing the Saleen S7 and it appears to be too slow stock. Still need to try the Cerbera Speed 12 and R390 Road Car. I'm not sure there are much more cars that can do this. The McLaren could probably easily do this if it wasn't such a pain to keep on the road.
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Right, okay. Much really in line with my times, just a tad slower. I've only been trying the McLaren because I just don't like the ZZII. It feels exactly like the Veyron, except not as pig-like, but still very porky. It's way too comfortable and controlled for my liking. I just don't enjoy lapping in it ya know...Anyways, I'll keep at it with the McLaren, hopefully something good comes out. My fastest so far laptime in the F1 is around the :07 mark...but I think I can do better.
 

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