The Thrustmaster T500RS Thread

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RC, have you found the diamond plating line up properly vs your last wheel?


So you just said that sim racing felt way better and reignited in you w/ the T500 RS vs the GT2/3 w/e, for that alone if a wheel were to do that for me, it would easily be worth it over the GT3, why would you go for the GT3 vs. the T500 then RC?
 
We have to remember that he is liking it so much on GT5 which it was designed for.

It will be interesting to see how it stands up to other wheels on PC sims that seem to utilize the fanatec wheels a little better.
 
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If I had to decide what to buy GT3 vs T500 for GT5, I would buy the GT3 for GT5. If you can afford both and enjoy Forza3 then get the T500 and the GT2 - if you have to choose 1 wheel and DEMAND FM3 support then get the GT2, this is what I would do - it "feels" almost as good as the T500.

@Jeff Goldstein, what exactly is your "problem with the dude on GTP?" It is only you and 2 or 3 other users that are the people constantly whining lke 3 year olds - first you almost burst into tears because you couldnt buy 1 and I happened to walk up and find 2, then you stop just short of calling me a liar for IDing some issues that other people found as well - Where you picked on as a child and now have a complex? There might be medication for all that projected frustration you have. Doesnt it get tiring acting as the "self appointed" FaceBook gossip? Note how almost all your posts over at FaceBook include a borderline personal attack - isnt that in violation of FaceBooks AUP?
The Fanatec GT3RS instead of the T500RS for GT5?

Really :confused:

Why if I may ask?
 
Having gone back and forth between the 2 I have now settled on the T500RS for GT5. It just feels "more real" for me - especially with detuned stock cars.

The GT2 is an improvement over the G25 for sure and had I not found the T500 I wouldnt know any different. But I did find the T500 and am glad I did.

If I had to decide what to buy GT3 vs T500 for GT5, I would buy the GT3

These lines seem to contradict one another? The T500 feels more real and you have decided to use it over the GT2, but you would buy the GT3 over it? Is the GT3 better than the GT2 or are you bringing value for money into the equation?

Also I dunno if I missed it in all the friendly banter ;) but do you get ffb effects from curbs on either wheel?
 
These lines seem to contradict one another? The T500 feels more real and you have decided to use it over the GT2, but you would buy the GT3 over it? Is the GT3 better than the GT2 or are you bringing value for money into the equation?

Also I dunno if I missed it in all the friendly banter ;) but do you get ffb effects from curbs on either wheel?
He just trying to confuse you or he has a split personality.
GT2 is a GT3 with X360 support.
 
@Jeff Goldstein, what exactly is your "problem with the dude on GTP?" It is only you and 2 or 3 other users that are the people constantly whining lke 3 year olds - first you almost burst into tears because you couldnt buy 1 and I happened to walk up and find 2, then you stop just short of calling me a liar for IDing some issues that other people found as well - Where you picked on as a child and now have a complex? There might be medication for all that projected frustration you have. Doesnt it get tiring acting as the "self appointed" FaceBook gossip? Note how almost all your posts over at FaceBook include a borderline personal attack - isnt that in violation of FaceBooks AUP?
Hiya, drama queen!

No, I wasn't picked on as a child. And I'm not frustrated, nor do I require medication, nor was I "whining, or "gossiping," etc. Truth is, I wasn't a member of this forum -- but was a member of facebook -- so I posted on facebook a link to this forum and to the impressions its members had of the T500 because this is the forum where the wheel was being discussed most consistently.

In doing so, I realized that I'd be subjecting people to a host of posts highlighting your annoying self-importance and obvious attention-seeking, and so I was careful to warn people who might be tempted to click over and read your firsthand accounts (rather than take for granted that I was summarizing them accurately; which I was, incidentally) what they were in for.

I for one am glad others finally have a wheel in hand. And I said so. Because reading your self-congratulatory posts -- frequently festooned with proud pronouncements about how "independant" [sic] you are as a thinker (compared to all the lemmings and fanboys out there who you seem to define as "those who aren't RC45, the most honest, unbiased, independant [sic]-thinking wheel user EVER!) -- has been nothing short of excrutiating: yes, I appreciate that you have taken the time to take photographs and give your opinions. But being appreciative and being beholden to your graciousness and forbearance -- which you so regularly remind all of -- are two different things.

That you would in fact call me out by name here -- on a forum I didn't belong to -- because I didn't, on a separate forum, show the requisite appreciation of your tremendously charitable acts (you played with a freakin' wheel and reported back -- a feat worthy of the highest regard), suggests to me that I had you pegged right from the get go.

If you don't like MY take on YOUR impressions, that's okay with me. Why it isn't okay with you that some people might be bothered by the self-important and smug way you've pronounced on the item under review, is for you to wrestle with.

In other words, it ain't me who needs some time on the couch, or any pills, brother.

So: To distill your various impressions down, here's what we're left with. Tell me if I'm off: you like the wheel but aren't overwhelmed by it (at least, not consistently: you seem to go back and forth, in some posts trumpeting the wheel, in others leaving the impression it isn't a significant upgrade over the Fanatec); you're disappointed with the quality of some of the fasteners and the allen wrenches; you think the pedals are pretty good but are disappointed with the mod; and if TM doesn't get you a stick shift quickly you'll sell the wheel on eBay. Also, you don't much like where the mode button was placed, and you had trouble with a fan and were forced to return the item for a replacement, which thus far works just fine.

That about it?

A simple yes or no will do. No need to tell me and everyone else yet again how thankful we should all be that you shared your wheel with us. We're already all really really super dooper thankful.

You're the bestest!
 
Typo - I am after all just a pathetic flawed human :( eheh


Haha, now you're making more sense, and everybody's flawed, but good you corrected yourself, I was about to say are you high and WTF are you typing haha because you weren't making sense. lol


Man, I almost want to sell all my other games and other valuables for this wheel, but I'll prob. be picking up a DFGT and GT5 pack soon, I'm seriously considering it anyways.
 
My pedals move sometimes on the laminate when braking hard. Onetime I flipped it (way too late braking) But I've a really poor angle:



PS: Waiting for my rennsport wheelstand and considering buying a speedmaster, playseats or rennsport cockpit ;)

Ok, so you're being the wheelstand AND considering buying a cockpit? Why? Go for one or the other, as the cockpits have mounting options for the wheel(S).
 
That's because both Fanatec and Logitech use HID forcefeedback and that's why they also work with all games. Fanatec also supports XID as well as HID if you have a Turbo S or GT2. The TM seems to only support a proprietary or new FF system as it only currently works with one game.

I don't think so. Apparently Thrustmaster & Logitech have their "PS3 ForceFeedback Library". Developers use them to implement the wheel & ForceFeedback Effects on PS3. So it's probably legal & approval by Sony.
Fanatec use Logitech VID PID . So their wheels are recognized on PS3 like a Logitech and not like a Fanatec (it's explain why they are compatible but not sure it's really legal :confused:)

It's probably legal as long as Fanatec doesn't suggest people to use Logitech profiler. Someone noted at ISR forum with a pc game that didn't support fanatec wheel he could just put the wheel in PS3 mode and use the logitech profiler. Darin replied he couldn't promote that option.

Yes apparently on PC in "PS3 mode" you can use directly Logitech PC Driver & then your Fanatec wheel is recognized as a Logitech... So they use Logitech VID PID.

What's the point about the Fanatec recognized as a Logitech ? Does it mean some "cheats" about the identity of the wheel ? Is it the reason why they are only online selling ?

Oh yes probably! It's now more clear. In this case it's means that Fanatec have just made a copy of Logitech IC (just like a Chinese copy:grumpy:)
 
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My pedals move sometimes on the laminate when braking hard. Onetime I flipped it (way too late braking) But I've a really poor angle:



PS: Waiting for my rennsport wheelstand and considering buying a speedmaster, playseats or rennsport cockpit ;)
Do you think a wheelstand can handle this wheel strong FFB? Also have you tried to put a square piece of "Easy Liner" under the pedals?
 
Maybe Fanatec can't get the licensing to make drivers for the PS3? I remember him saying that the 360 compatibility was easy to get (I can't remember his exact wording) but the PS3 was guarded by Sony very tightly.

Now he may have been just talking about wireless connectability, but I'm not sure.

How does the Fanatec work on 360? Do they write their own drivers for it?
If they have great PC drivers and 360 drivers it's odd that they'd have to trick the ps3 and not use their own drivers.
 
Maybe Fanatec can't get the licensing to make drivers for the PS3? I remember him saying that the 360 compatibility was easy to get (I can't remember his exact wording) but the PS3 was guarded by Sony very tightly.

Now he may have been just talking about wireless connectability, but I'm not sure.

How does the Fanatec work on 360? Do they write their own drivers for it?
If they have great PC drivers and 360 drivers it's odd that they'd have to trick the ps3 and not use their own drivers.
To have FFB on 360 I think he has to get a chip from Microsoft
 
To have FFB on 360 I think he has to get a chip from Microsoft

So I'm pretty sure he was saying that getting access to make his product official on 360 was no problem but on PS3 it was not the same case.

Makes me think it could have something to do with why it basically tricks the system into thinking its a logitech.
 
Oh yes probably! It's now more clear. In this case it's means that Fanatec have just made a copy of Logitech IC (just like a Chinese copy:grumpy:)

Your making it sound as if they are violating laws to work on the PS3 and that isn't the case. They are simply claiming that their device is compatible with PS3 and the games it works with. There is no law against tricking the PS3 to think the wheel is a logitech. And it certainly is not against any copywrite or trademark laws.
 
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Which location in Arizona did you get the wheel from, and did you see any other stock? I have been calling and calling them and getting responses from "we don't know" to "we probably won't stock the item"

As of last night, the Tempe location had one on the shelf. The one I got was shipped to Tempe from their Las Vegas store. The other one should probably still be there if you're lucky! If you call, talk to Dimitri in the computer department. He's the one who got mine shipped from Vegas and will know exactly the wheel you're talking about...especially if you add the part about the one I got being shipped from Vegas. :sly:

Edit: Oops, nevermind. I responded directly to your original inquiry post, then saw on the next page that you had gotten one. CONGRATS! Perhaps this info can help someone else seeking one in the Phoenix area, though.
 
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Of course they can't if IC or VID/PID (= USB Device Identity) of their wheels are just a copy (like a ghost) of Logitech wheels.

Um, the Fanatec wheels are identified as Fanatec wheels in PC mode. There's no reason PD cannot write in support for the PC mode which would be the proper way to support the wheel. It would have been extra work for nothing though, since the wheel identifies itself as a Logitech G27 and understands its instructions PD only needed to write support for one wheel (G27).

If Fanatec didn't emulate a G27 their wheels would have never been supported by the majority of PS3 games. This is a problem we might see with the Thrustmaster too because the PS3 recognizes all these wheels but it's up to the developer to code in support for them. Although the Thrustmaster does have the FF free 270° mode for compatibility.
 
Damn, you replied before I could fix my terrible grammar ;)

That's great news as you don't get that feedback on a DFP and I think you don't get it on the DFGT (not sure about the G25/27)
 
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