The Vehicle Wish List & Info Database
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- Anoka, MN
-Nissan North America- (continued)
Nissan Maxima [3G] SE sedan '94
Nissan Maxima [4G] SE sedan '98
Nissan Maxima [5G] SE sedan '03
Nissan Maxima [6G] 3.5SE sedan '06
Nissan Pathfinder SE 3dr. 4x4 '89
Nissan Pathfinder SE 5dr. 4x4 '98
Nissan Sentra [B13] SE-R coupe '94
Nissan Titan Pro-4X (Ext. cab, short box) pickup '06
Nissan Xterra SE Supercharged 5dr. 4x4 '02
Nissan Maxima [3G] SE sedan '94
Nissan Maxima [4G] SE sedan '98
Nissan Maxima [5G] SE sedan '03
Nissan Maxima [6G] 3.5SE sedan '06
Nissan Pathfinder SE 3dr. 4x4 '89
Nissan Pathfinder SE 5dr. 4x4 '98
Nissan Sentra [B13] SE-R coupe '94
Nissan Titan Pro-4X (Ext. cab, short box) pickup '06
Nissan Xterra SE Supercharged 5dr. 4x4 '02
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- Alabama
- Horobi-Scorpion
LEXUS
Lexus LFA 2011/2012
Note: The status of the One-77 (Aston Martin) being a concept vehicle, should be removed, now. I'm still skimming the list for others. Thx again, VB for your work.
Lexus LFA 2011/2012
Note: The status of the One-77 (Aston Martin) being a concept vehicle, should be removed, now. I'm still skimming the list for others. Thx again, VB for your work.
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- 5,754
- Anoka, MN
Well for one thing, it's the cars that people would like to see represented in Gran Turismo. Yes the list is big, and it seems that all the cars in the world are in it, but it probably only makes up about a quarter (if that) of all the cars ever produced (including concepts). The other point of it is to make an encyclopedia of cars that people may not know of (similar to what Kaz is doing).
- 5,754
- Anoka, MN
Meh, it's no different than any of the useless polls or speculation threads. It's just something to do while we wait for the game! 
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Me too , this is the most expensive and most powerful sports car Toyota ever produce. I hope this car will be featured on GT5 and since GT5 is for next year and they have good relations to Japanese Car manufacturers, I have a good feeling this car will be in GT5.
- 758
- Alabama
- Horobi-Scorpion
The one you posted isn't the LFA exactly, but rather the concept roadster variation from a few years back. But yea, I'm very excited about the vehicle, and I really hope (it's almost guaranteed) it appears in GT5.
- 544
I also heard they plan a hybrid version , this car is a Godzilla in Japan hehe. I think it will be in the game. Maybe next year we will see a trailer made by PD for this car.
By the way I think this is the 2009 version. Wow it really looks like a next gen Supra. Wow 200+ miles per hour and Japanese style. Talk about a perfect cover for GT5 even in Japan version only.
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- Alabama
- Horobi-Scorpion
Yea. That's the production model. It's not a 2009 model, however. It's gonna be either a 2011, or 2012 model year vehicle.
And it does vaguely remind me of the Supra, but in terms of performance, the LFA blows the Supra out the water. Not even the same Planet.
And it does vaguely remind me of the Supra, but in terms of performance, the LFA blows the Supra out the water. Not even the same Planet.
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2011? That long? Which means bigger possibility that it will appear in GT5 even a DLC later. I love Lexus LFA because I always love Supra and this car has that Supra feel to it. It remids me so much of supra.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDsXsdNgov0&feature=player_embedded Oh man watch this video i hope GT5 can replicate the scene where it is drifting on snow.
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- Tulsa, OK
- SixSpeedZ51
- BlackZ28
Chevrolet
1978 Corvette L-82 Silver Anniversary
I know, old, slow, but I would pay $100+ to have it in the game.
1978 Corvette L-82 Silver Anniversary
I know, old, slow, but I would pay $100+ to have it in the game.
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- cletus2344
1973 Chevrolet Vega!
mafia_boy
(Banned)
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- GTP_Mafiaboy
I'm only here to fix things as requested by TVB.
He's asked me to help on this so let's go for it:
No to the 4.2L. The 253ci motor was what was put into the SS. A 308ci was an option but was reserved more for the GTS. It's a 4dr shell, so it keeps it's Kingswood heritage.
-HOLDEN DEALER TEAM-
I've already explained this one to TVB way back around post #450 or so, I've put both different pictures in there too, the picture he has of this is the Walkinshaw and I've already pointed them out to him....for some reason TVB hasn't fixed them up on his list page.
Take your pick....the GTS's or the SS's. And the VP GTS had the same power as the SV5000 and Clubsport which I already pointed out.
The ESP was actually an XE model. The XF S-Pack was nothing, just a standard EFI six, that's like putting a Commodore Berlina in and saying it's special and the EA Fairmont was even worse. I'm actually more disappointed that you put those P.O.S's in and left out the EB GT 25th Anniversary, or the Alan Moffat "HO" specials for the AU XR6 and XR8, or the AU XR6 with VCT, or the limited edition EA 3.9L TURBO that was out....that's your homework unv412, to research that particular car.
The BA Mk2's don't need to be in there as they didn't get power upgrades from the Mk1's. BA Mk1 GT was already in GT4....and the TE50 wasn't a FPV car, it was Ford's with help from Tickford. And once again, you add cars that are in there, but you don't add the FPV Territory F6X?? Shame on you.
I'm not getting into Chrysler as they weren't favourites of mine.
Hope that helps TVB. 👍
He's asked me to help on this so let's go for it:
No to the 4.2L. The 253ci motor was what was put into the SS. A 308ci was an option but was reserved more for the GTS. It's a 4dr shell, so it keeps it's Kingswood heritage.
I agree with this. It IS an '09 model. Late '09 but it is an '09.
Actually, the director came in both the 4.9L and the 3.0L turbo version. I sent TVB specs of the 4.9L though.
Actually it was a seperate model to the normal 4.9L director, stroked to 5.6L, only a few exist.
Very very late....the HZ was around in '78-79 and replaced by the VB Commodore at that time, from memory it's 1976.
They came in both sedan and coupe.
Actually, both are incorrect as it was considered a coupe. The 5dr was the hatch (liftback).
It was marketed as a fastback.
Already taken care of with better versions (Group 3, Group A)
Taken care of with Grp A model (think about it, 215Kw vs 165Kw)
Get the Clubsport or SV5000, they were the hi-po versions of that model.
Swap that for GTS (215Kw), which is already taken care of with GTS-R in VS Model.
Once again, go for the [VT II] as it was the first with the LS1. The only reason it should stay is for nostalgic reasons like the last Holden 304ci's were in this car.
Swap for Clubsport or GTS
Why bother, the [VY II] SS was already in GT4 with more power, and I build them to R8 specs anyway as a GME tune packing 285Kw which is exactly the stated power of the R8 [VY II].
This one should stay, due to the LS2 motor, but once again let's just get the Clubsport R8 version.
-HOLDEN DEALER TEAM-
It should and it shouldn't. When that was built it was part of Holden, however HDT is their own company and have been for over 20yrs now.
That's TVB's gaff then.
I've already explained this one to TVB way back around post #450 or so, I've put both different pictures in there too, the picture he has of this is the Walkinshaw and I've already pointed them out to him....for some reason TVB hasn't fixed them up on his list page.
Take your pick....the GTS's or the SS's. And the VP GTS had the same power as the SV5000 and Clubsport which I already pointed out.
The model was out in '95, the GTS-R came out the following year.
No it's not, I explained why beforehand as to why they are TWO different models, the GTS-R and the GTS-R Blueprint. HSV puts it on their chassis plates to define the difference, like they did with the BT1 in the VL days.
He's right on that one.
That bit I disagree with.
I agree there, GT's were always done as 4drs.
The ESP was actually an XE model. The XF S-Pack was nothing, just a standard EFI six, that's like putting a Commodore Berlina in and saying it's special and the EA Fairmont was even worse. I'm actually more disappointed that you put those P.O.S's in and left out the EB GT 25th Anniversary, or the Alan Moffat "HO" specials for the AU XR6 and XR8, or the AU XR6 with VCT, or the limited edition EA 3.9L TURBO that was out....that's your homework unv412, to research that particular car.
The BA Mk2's don't need to be in there as they didn't get power upgrades from the Mk1's. BA Mk1 GT was already in GT4....and the TE50 wasn't a FPV car, it was Ford's with help from Tickford. And once again, you add cars that are in there, but you don't add the FPV Territory F6X?? Shame on you.
I'm not getting into Chrysler as they weren't favourites of mine.
Hope that helps TVB. 👍
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- bigmama1954
Saleen S5S Raptor
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car/08q1/saleen_s5s_raptor_concept-auto_shows
Zenvo ST1
http://www.rsportscars.com/zenvo/2010-zenvo-st1/
Chrysler ME412
http://www.allpar.com/cars/me412.html
BMW M1 Hommage
http://streetknowledge.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/bmw-m1-hommage-concept-revealed/
Lamborghini Cala
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/241/Lamborghini-Cala-Concept.html
Ford GT90
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_GT90
Lotus GT1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Elise_GT1
Ford Indigo
http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/concept_cars/ford_indigo.html
BMW Nazca C2
http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/vehicles/road/cars/rare_classics/bmw_nazca_c2.html
Ferrari F50
http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/vehicles/road/cars/rare_classics/bmw_nazca_c2.html
Isdera Commendatore 112i
http://www.supercars.net/cars/808.html
Alfa Romeo Italdesign Scighera 👍👍👍👍👍
http://www.carsfromitaly.net/alfaromeo/concepts/scighera.html
Jaguar XJR-15
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_XJR-15
Edit: I want to add a few more
Tromontana R
http://www.4wheelsnews.com/tramontana-r-the-720-hp-f1-derived-supercar/
Toyota Volta
http://www.hybridcars.com/concept-hybrids/toyota-volta.html
Lamborghini Alar
http://thecarsbikes.blogspot.com/2009/06/lamborghini-alar-rocket-car.html
Maserati Birdcage 75th
http://www.maserati.com/maserati/en/en/index/models/Concept-Car/Birdcage-75th.html
Ferrari P4/5 (i think this was already added, if it was sorry)
http://www.supercars.net/cars/3456.html
Lamborghini Embolado
http://262-lamborghini.blogspot.com/2009/06/lamborghini-embolado.html
Lamborghini Estoque
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamborghini_Estoque
Fisker Karma
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisker_Karma
B Engineering Edonis
http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/vehicles/road/cars/b_eng_edonis.html
Bristol Fighter
http://www.bristolcars.co.uk/BristolFighter.htm
Maybach Exelero
http://www.exelerocar.com/
Gumpert Apollo 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
http://www.supercars.net/cars/3313.html
Orca c113
http://www.supercars.net/cars/3019.html
Porsche 962 Dauer (very unlikely)
http://www.supercars.net/cars/404.html
Vector WX8
http://www.vectormotors.com/
Melling Hellcat
http://www.vectormotors.com/
Lotec Sirius
http://jalopnik.com/5120529/2009-lotec-sirius--the-ugliest-super-car-ever
Beck LM 800
http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/vehicles/road/cars/beck_lm_800.html
Ascari A10
http://www.supercars.net/cars/3324.html
Caparo T1
http://www.supercars.net/cars/3376.html
MB Roadcars MBR V8
http://www.mbroadcars.com/
LeBlanc Caroline GTR
http://www.leblanc-cars.com/caroline.htm
LeBlanc Mirabeau
http://www.leblanc-cars.com/mirabeau.htm
RUF CTR-3
http://www.rufautocentre.com/newcars/RUF_CTR3.asp
There's my list
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car/08q1/saleen_s5s_raptor_concept-auto_shows
Zenvo ST1
http://www.rsportscars.com/zenvo/2010-zenvo-st1/
Chrysler ME412
http://www.allpar.com/cars/me412.html
BMW M1 Hommage
http://streetknowledge.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/bmw-m1-hommage-concept-revealed/
Lamborghini Cala
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/241/Lamborghini-Cala-Concept.html
Ford GT90
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_GT90
Lotus GT1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Elise_GT1
Ford Indigo
http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/concept_cars/ford_indigo.html
BMW Nazca C2
http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/vehicles/road/cars/rare_classics/bmw_nazca_c2.html
Ferrari F50
http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/vehicles/road/cars/rare_classics/bmw_nazca_c2.html
Isdera Commendatore 112i
http://www.supercars.net/cars/808.html
Alfa Romeo Italdesign Scighera 👍👍👍👍👍
http://www.carsfromitaly.net/alfaromeo/concepts/scighera.html
Jaguar XJR-15
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_XJR-15
Edit: I want to add a few more
Tromontana R
http://www.4wheelsnews.com/tramontana-r-the-720-hp-f1-derived-supercar/
Toyota Volta
http://www.hybridcars.com/concept-hybrids/toyota-volta.html
Lamborghini Alar
http://thecarsbikes.blogspot.com/2009/06/lamborghini-alar-rocket-car.html
Maserati Birdcage 75th
http://www.maserati.com/maserati/en/en/index/models/Concept-Car/Birdcage-75th.html
Ferrari P4/5 (i think this was already added, if it was sorry)
http://www.supercars.net/cars/3456.html
Lamborghini Embolado
http://262-lamborghini.blogspot.com/2009/06/lamborghini-embolado.html
Lamborghini Estoque
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamborghini_Estoque
Fisker Karma
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisker_Karma
B Engineering Edonis
http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/vehicles/road/cars/b_eng_edonis.html
Bristol Fighter
http://www.bristolcars.co.uk/BristolFighter.htm
Maybach Exelero
http://www.exelerocar.com/
Gumpert Apollo 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
http://www.supercars.net/cars/3313.html
Orca c113
http://www.supercars.net/cars/3019.html
Porsche 962 Dauer (very unlikely)
http://www.supercars.net/cars/404.html
Vector WX8
http://www.vectormotors.com/
Melling Hellcat
http://www.vectormotors.com/
Lotec Sirius
http://jalopnik.com/5120529/2009-lotec-sirius--the-ugliest-super-car-ever
Beck LM 800
http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/vehicles/road/cars/beck_lm_800.html
Ascari A10
http://www.supercars.net/cars/3324.html
Caparo T1
http://www.supercars.net/cars/3376.html
MB Roadcars MBR V8
http://www.mbroadcars.com/
LeBlanc Caroline GTR
http://www.leblanc-cars.com/caroline.htm
LeBlanc Mirabeau
http://www.leblanc-cars.com/mirabeau.htm
RUF CTR-3
http://www.rufautocentre.com/newcars/RUF_CTR3.asp
There's my list
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- Australia
In reply to Mafia boys help on fixing the Aussie list i will use Bold and RED [B]to fix the fixes![/B]
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-HOLDEN-
Holden (Kingswood) [2Gs1/HQ] SS 4.2L sedan '71
Remove the (Kingswood) and the 4.2L designations
No to the 4.2L. The 253ci motor was what was put into the SS. A 308ci was an option but was reserved more for the GTS. It's a 4dr shell, so it keeps it's Kingswood heritage.
so do you agree or dissagree???? my point is it was never called a Kingswood....just an SS....not an SS 4.2.... get it?[/B]
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Holden Calais [4G/VE] V {3.6L H.O. SIDI V6, 210kw/282hp} sedan '10
Should be 09 we arent even in 10 yet????
I agree with this. It IS an '09 model. Late '09 but it is an '09.
TVB the '10 year designation is mostly used in the USA not in Oz
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Holden Commodore [1Gs4/VL] Calais HDT LE 3.0L Turbo 'The Director' tuned sedan '86
should be..Commodore [VL] HDT LE '86... Directer was a totally different car
Actually, the director came in both the 4.9L and the 3.0L turbo version. I sent TVB specs of the 4.9L though.
Never called a Director...only an LE (v8 and turbo 6)....cant be both
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Holden Commodore [1Gs4/VL] HDT Director Stroker sports sedan '88
remove stroker as it isnt the model prefix
Actually it was a seperate model to the normal 4.9L director, stroked to 5.6L, only a few exist.
I know that it was stroked....but was it actually in the title (eg model name)....absolutly not
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Holden Monaro [2Gs4/HZ] GTS coupe '77
Should be sedan not coupe
They came in both sedan and coupe.
no....HZ only came in sedan....last coupe was the HX LE
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Holden Torana [LX] A9X sports car '77
Sports car??? Its a 3 door Hatch
Actually, both are incorrect as it was considered a coupe. The 5dr was the hatch (liftback).
actually only ever marketed and know as a Hatch (latests Wheels magazine has one in it) .......didnt know there was a 5dr hatch (liftback) Torana, Got any photos?????????
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Holden Torana [UC] Sunbird SL fastback '78
3 door hatch not a fastback
It was marketed as a fastback.
see above
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Holden Commodore [VH] SS sedan '82
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Holden Commodore [VK] SS sedan '84
Already taken care of with better versions (Group 3, Group A)
ok heres where it gets confusing???? I thought it was a wish list? Besides there are a million mustangs for instance in one given year (eg GT, Mach 1, Boss 302,Boss 429 etc) so which one should make it in??? Besides there is a couple of Commodores that are ******** versions of the model (eg 09 VE SV6 ????) that are in the list!......if you know your holdens you will find these cars are pretty desireable in there own right and are substantially differentiated from the the Hi Po versions (usually HDT/HSV or for Ford Tickford/FPV) so i beleive they should be in!!!
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Holden Commodore [VN] SS sedan '89
Taken care of with Grp A model (think about it, 215Kw vs 165Kw)
see above
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Holden Commodore [VP] SS sedan '91
Get the Clubsport or SV5000, they were the hi-po versions of that model.
see above
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Holden Commodore [VR] SS sedan '93
Swap that for GTS (215Kw), which is already taken care of with GTS-R in VS Model.
see above
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Holden Commodore [VT] SS sedan '97
Once again, go for the [VT II] as it was the first with the LS1. The only reason it should stay is for nostalgic reasons like the last Holden 304ci's were in this car.
see above
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Holden Commodore [VX] SS sedan '00
Swap for Clubsport or GTS
see above
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Holden Commodore [VY] SS sedan '02
Why bother, the [VY II] SS was already in GT4 with more power, and I build them to R8 specs anyway as a GME tune packing 285Kw which is exactly the stated power of the R8 [VY II].
see above
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Holden Commodore [VZ] SS sedan '04
This one should stay, due to the LS2 motor, but once again let's just get the Clubsport R8 version.
see above
-HOLDEN DEALER TEAM-
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HDT Brock Commodore [1Gs1/VK] SS Group 3 {5.0L, 177kw/237hp} tuned sports sedan '84
Should be under Holden and do we really need engine size and power stats???
It should and it shouldn't. When that was built it was part of Holden, however HDT is their own company and have been for over 20yrs now.
"now' and 'then' are the key words in your convaluted answer! As was
explained in a previos post and agreed to be correct but never ratified
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HDT Brock Commodore [1Gs2/VK] SS Group A {4.9L, 190kw/255hp} tuned sports sedan '85
Already in proper Holden column
That's TVB's gaff then.
?????
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-HOLDEN SPECIAL VEHICLES-
HSV Commodore [1Gs5/VL] SS Grp. A sports sedan '87
Doesnt exist as an '87 already in list as '88
I've already explained this one to TVB way back around post #450 or so, I've put both different pictures in there too, the picture he has of this is the Walkinshaw and I've already pointed them out to him....for some reason TVB hasn't fixed them up on his list page.
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VP GTS 91
VR GTS 93
VT GTS 97
VX GTS 00
VY GTS 02
VZ GTS 04
Take your pick....the GTS's or the SS's. And the VP GTS had the same power as the SV5000 and Clubsport which I already pointed out.
see whole "what makes it in" rant above
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HSV Commodore [2Gs4/VS] GTS-R sport sedan '96
95?
The model was out in '95, the GTS-R came out the following year.
funny....HSV's own website lists it as '95?????
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HSV Commodore [2Gs4VS] GTS-R {Blueprinted 5.7L, 230kw/308hp} sports sedan '96
Duplicate
No it's not, I explained why beforehand as to why they are TWO different models, the GTS-R and the GTS-R Blueprint. HSV puts it on their chassis plates to define the difference, like they did with the BT1 in the VL days.
you could "option" (key word my friend) the blueprint on any SS or HSV at that time.....so does it justify a whole different admission....I thinks me not!
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FORD MOTOR COMPANY AUSTRALIA-
Ford Capri Perana '70
Never an Aussie model only Sth African
He's right on that one.
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Ford Falcon [XB] GT Interceptor coupe '73
Should have Mad Max movie car in title
That bit I disagree with.
So you believe you could walk in into a ford showroom and order an interceptor???? How many were bought????
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Ford Falcon [XW] GT {5.7L Windsor V8} sport coupe '69
Sedan only not coupe
I agree there, GT's were always done as 4drs.
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Ford Falcon [XR] GT Sedan 67
Ford Falcon [XT] GT Sedan 68
Ford Falcon [XW] GT-HO Phase II Sedan 70
Ford Falcon [XA] GT Sedan 72
Ford Falcon [XB] GT Sedan 74
Ford Falcon [XD] ESP (351 ci) Sedan 80
Ford Falcon [XF] S-Pack Sedan 85
Ford Falcon [EA] Fairmont Ghia 88
Ford Falcon [EF] XR8 94
Ford Falcon [EL] GT 97
Ford Falcon [EL] XR8 97
Ford Falcon [AU] XR8 98
Ford Falcon [BA] XR8 02
Ford Falcon [BF] XR8 05
The ESP was actually an XE model. The XF S-Pack was nothing, just a standard EFI six, that's like putting a Commodore Berlina in and saying it's special and the EA Fairmont was even worse. I'm actually more disappointed that you put those P.O.S's in and left out the EB GT 25th Anniversary, or the Alan Moffat "HO" specials for the AU XR6 and XR8, or the AU XR6 with VCT, or the limited edition EA 3.9L TURBO that was out....that's your homework unv412, to research that particular car.
No the ESP was also a XD (please check your facts!!!)...The XF S-pac was chosen as I thought it was the Sportiest model of the XF's unless you have any other ones you can think of???....as for the EB GT its allready on the list!...all the rest you speak of are tuner cars and I was just pointing out the factory ones!
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-FORD PERFORMANCE VEHICLES-
ADD
FTE Falcon [AU] TE50 T3 01
FPV Falcon [BA] GT '03
FPV Falcon [BA Mk 2] GT '04
FPV Falcon [BA Mk 2] F6 Typhoon '04
FPV Falcon [BF] GT '05
FPV Falcon [BF] F6 Typhoon '05
The BA Mk2's don't need to be in there as they didn't get power upgrades from the Mk1's. BA Mk1 GT was already in GT4....and the TE50 wasn't a FPV car, it was Ford's with help from Tickford. And once again, you add cars that are in there, but you don't add the FPV Territory F6X?? Shame on you.
the BA mk 2s i added as just pure fantasy as I beleived they had a better strip and wheel pack and different front and rear facias......forgot the BA Mk 1 was in GT4 (my bad).....TE50 probably should be under Ford and not FPV.
I'm not getting into Chrysler as they weren't favourites of mine.
Hope that helps TVB.
Seriously Mafia Boy you need to research you stuff a bit better as this is now turning into me correcting TVB and Mafia Boy....takes too much time and energy cuz!!!!!!!__________________
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-HOLDEN-
Holden (Kingswood) [2Gs1/HQ] SS 4.2L sedan '71
Remove the (Kingswood) and the 4.2L designations
No to the 4.2L. The 253ci motor was what was put into the SS. A 308ci was an option but was reserved more for the GTS. It's a 4dr shell, so it keeps it's Kingswood heritage.
so do you agree or dissagree???? my point is it was never called a Kingswood....just an SS....not an SS 4.2.... get it?[/B]
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Holden Calais [4G/VE] V {3.6L H.O. SIDI V6, 210kw/282hp} sedan '10
Should be 09 we arent even in 10 yet????
I agree with this. It IS an '09 model. Late '09 but it is an '09.
TVB the '10 year designation is mostly used in the USA not in Oz
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Holden Commodore [1Gs4/VL] Calais HDT LE 3.0L Turbo 'The Director' tuned sedan '86
should be..Commodore [VL] HDT LE '86... Directer was a totally different car
Actually, the director came in both the 4.9L and the 3.0L turbo version. I sent TVB specs of the 4.9L though.
Never called a Director...only an LE (v8 and turbo 6)....cant be both
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Holden Commodore [1Gs4/VL] HDT Director Stroker sports sedan '88
remove stroker as it isnt the model prefix
Actually it was a seperate model to the normal 4.9L director, stroked to 5.6L, only a few exist.
I know that it was stroked....but was it actually in the title (eg model name)....absolutly not
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Holden Monaro [2Gs4/HZ] GTS coupe '77
Should be sedan not coupe
They came in both sedan and coupe.
no....HZ only came in sedan....last coupe was the HX LE
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Holden Torana [LX] A9X sports car '77
Sports car??? Its a 3 door Hatch
Actually, both are incorrect as it was considered a coupe. The 5dr was the hatch (liftback).
actually only ever marketed and know as a Hatch (latests Wheels magazine has one in it) .......didnt know there was a 5dr hatch (liftback) Torana, Got any photos?????????
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Holden Torana [UC] Sunbird SL fastback '78
3 door hatch not a fastback
It was marketed as a fastback.
see above
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Holden Commodore [VH] SS sedan '82
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Holden Commodore [VK] SS sedan '84
Already taken care of with better versions (Group 3, Group A)
ok heres where it gets confusing???? I thought it was a wish list? Besides there are a million mustangs for instance in one given year (eg GT, Mach 1, Boss 302,Boss 429 etc) so which one should make it in??? Besides there is a couple of Commodores that are ******** versions of the model (eg 09 VE SV6 ????) that are in the list!......if you know your holdens you will find these cars are pretty desireable in there own right and are substantially differentiated from the the Hi Po versions (usually HDT/HSV or for Ford Tickford/FPV) so i beleive they should be in!!!
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Holden Commodore [VN] SS sedan '89
Taken care of with Grp A model (think about it, 215Kw vs 165Kw)
see above
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Holden Commodore [VP] SS sedan '91
Get the Clubsport or SV5000, they were the hi-po versions of that model.
see above
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Holden Commodore [VR] SS sedan '93
Swap that for GTS (215Kw), which is already taken care of with GTS-R in VS Model.
see above
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Holden Commodore [VT] SS sedan '97
Once again, go for the [VT II] as it was the first with the LS1. The only reason it should stay is for nostalgic reasons like the last Holden 304ci's were in this car.
see above
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Holden Commodore [VX] SS sedan '00
Swap for Clubsport or GTS
see above
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Holden Commodore [VY] SS sedan '02
Why bother, the [VY II] SS was already in GT4 with more power, and I build them to R8 specs anyway as a GME tune packing 285Kw which is exactly the stated power of the R8 [VY II].
see above
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Holden Commodore [VZ] SS sedan '04
This one should stay, due to the LS2 motor, but once again let's just get the Clubsport R8 version.
see above
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HDT Brock Commodore [1Gs1/VK] SS Group 3 {5.0L, 177kw/237hp} tuned sports sedan '84
Should be under Holden and do we really need engine size and power stats???
It should and it shouldn't. When that was built it was part of Holden, however HDT is their own company and have been for over 20yrs now.
"now' and 'then' are the key words in your convaluted answer! As was
explained in a previos post and agreed to be correct but never ratified
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HDT Brock Commodore [1Gs2/VK] SS Group A {4.9L, 190kw/255hp} tuned sports sedan '85
Already in proper Holden column
That's TVB's gaff then.
?????
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HSV Commodore [1Gs5/VL] SS Grp. A sports sedan '87
Doesnt exist as an '87 already in list as '88
I've already explained this one to TVB way back around post #450 or so, I've put both different pictures in there too, the picture he has of this is the Walkinshaw and I've already pointed them out to him....for some reason TVB hasn't fixed them up on his list page.
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add
VP GTS 91
VR GTS 93
VT GTS 97
VX GTS 00
VY GTS 02
VZ GTS 04
Take your pick....the GTS's or the SS's. And the VP GTS had the same power as the SV5000 and Clubsport which I already pointed out.
see whole "what makes it in" rant above
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HSV Commodore [2Gs4/VS] GTS-R sport sedan '96
95?
The model was out in '95, the GTS-R came out the following year.
funny....HSV's own website lists it as '95?????
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HSV Commodore [2Gs4VS] GTS-R {Blueprinted 5.7L, 230kw/308hp} sports sedan '96
Duplicate
No it's not, I explained why beforehand as to why they are TWO different models, the GTS-R and the GTS-R Blueprint. HSV puts it on their chassis plates to define the difference, like they did with the BT1 in the VL days.
you could "option" (key word my friend) the blueprint on any SS or HSV at that time.....so does it justify a whole different admission....I thinks me not!
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FORD MOTOR COMPANY AUSTRALIA-
Ford Capri Perana '70
Never an Aussie model only Sth African
He's right on that one.
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Ford Falcon [XB] GT Interceptor coupe '73
Should have Mad Max movie car in title
That bit I disagree with.
So you believe you could walk in into a ford showroom and order an interceptor???? How many were bought????
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Ford Falcon [XW] GT {5.7L Windsor V8} sport coupe '69
Sedan only not coupe
I agree there, GT's were always done as 4drs.
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Ford Falcon [XR] GT Sedan 67
Ford Falcon [XT] GT Sedan 68
Ford Falcon [XW] GT-HO Phase II Sedan 70
Ford Falcon [XA] GT Sedan 72
Ford Falcon [XB] GT Sedan 74
Ford Falcon [XD] ESP (351 ci) Sedan 80
Ford Falcon [XF] S-Pack Sedan 85
Ford Falcon [EA] Fairmont Ghia 88
Ford Falcon [EF] XR8 94
Ford Falcon [EL] GT 97
Ford Falcon [EL] XR8 97
Ford Falcon [AU] XR8 98
Ford Falcon [BA] XR8 02
Ford Falcon [BF] XR8 05
The ESP was actually an XE model. The XF S-Pack was nothing, just a standard EFI six, that's like putting a Commodore Berlina in and saying it's special and the EA Fairmont was even worse. I'm actually more disappointed that you put those P.O.S's in and left out the EB GT 25th Anniversary, or the Alan Moffat "HO" specials for the AU XR6 and XR8, or the AU XR6 with VCT, or the limited edition EA 3.9L TURBO that was out....that's your homework unv412, to research that particular car.
No the ESP was also a XD (please check your facts!!!)...The XF S-pac was chosen as I thought it was the Sportiest model of the XF's unless you have any other ones you can think of???....as for the EB GT its allready on the list!...all the rest you speak of are tuner cars and I was just pointing out the factory ones!
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-FORD PERFORMANCE VEHICLES-
ADD
FTE Falcon [AU] TE50 T3 01
FPV Falcon [BA] GT '03
FPV Falcon [BA Mk 2] GT '04
FPV Falcon [BA Mk 2] F6 Typhoon '04
FPV Falcon [BF] GT '05
FPV Falcon [BF] F6 Typhoon '05
The BA Mk2's don't need to be in there as they didn't get power upgrades from the Mk1's. BA Mk1 GT was already in GT4....and the TE50 wasn't a FPV car, it was Ford's with help from Tickford. And once again, you add cars that are in there, but you don't add the FPV Territory F6X?? Shame on you.
the BA mk 2s i added as just pure fantasy as I beleived they had a better strip and wheel pack and different front and rear facias......forgot the BA Mk 1 was in GT4 (my bad).....TE50 probably should be under Ford and not FPV.
I'm not getting into Chrysler as they weren't favourites of mine.
Hope that helps TVB.
Seriously Mafia Boy you need to research you stuff a bit better as this is now turning into me correcting TVB and Mafia Boy....takes too much time and energy cuz!!!!!!!__________________
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I was just coming on the see if this car was included. This car NEEDS to be in the game, PD are you listening. If anyone doesn't know what this thing is go to the link and see, its insane. Full Audi Quattro drivetrain and tuned Audi I5.
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If you're wanting a short post, just skip to another thread, this is a novel.
Now, to answer the comment about correcting both TVB & myself, the fact of the matter is that TVB asked a few of us to help him out and I stepped up to the plate unv412, any problem with that??
And considering this is the first thing I've done in OVER 2 MONTHS on GTPlanet....not even attending to my own stuff and stuff I'm supposed to have done in the recent past, to get that response from you almost gets a bird response back from me.....telling me to research my stuff....fine, you go and pick all the 🤬 pictures, go find ALL the specs and pass them to TVB like I have on EACH AND EVERY OCCASION UNTIL THAT POST!! (check my post at #463 for example!). And considering I have told you via PM what I did in the auto journalism sector, you should know that I don't just blah blah whatever comes to mind, I RESEARCH EVERYTHING I BRING TO THIS THREAD!
I was playing nicely until then but you flicked the B-switch on me so here goes:
1. RE: Kingswood. It WAS marketed as an SS...but guess what the standard pack was....the 253ci!! So by putting the 4.2L prefix in, it distinguishes itself from the optional 308ci.
2. RE: VL Commodore Director. Like the BT1, it was given a different prefix on the VIN plate. I mixed myself up with the 3.0L bit, that was on most other versions, but the stroker got a different prefix aswell.
3. RE: HZ model. I did mix myself up with HX and HZ.....I was reading ahead to your other comment previously about the HX year model in that other post and mixed the two comments up in my thoughts and it came out in post.
ops: You are right, HZ was only sedan.
4. RE: The SV6 Part A. If it was MY list, I almost would've told them to rack off with that garbage, my old 7M-GE in the Cressy kept up with the Alloytec 190's. But it's not mine, it's TVB's and therefore it's his choice to keep it in there. I only come around to help if there's any disputes. The only V6 Commodore that deserves a place there in the whole list is the XU6, atleast that's supercharged.
5. RE: The SV6 Part B. You mention about the many mustangs from one year being in the list....what's the MAJOR difference between them all???
Think about it.....
.....
.....
let you think more.....
.....
It's because they ALL HAVE DIFFERENT MOTORS!! The SS and all the other derivatives of it (R8, Senator, etc.) are ALL BASED ON THE SAME MOTOR for that year!! From [VN] to [VT I], they used the Holden 304, didn't matter on spec for everything that wasn't a GTS, and the GTS got the stroked 304 in the VR GTS and developed it further in the [VS] GTS-R. Same with the LS1 motored [VT II to VY II] models, then the LS2 for the VZ and VE I, and now we have the LS3 6.2L in the VE II.
6. RE: Power Levels. It's VERY IMPORTANT that power levels are stated in my opinion because as been shown, the wrong car has been presented to the list compared to the specs that are shown when the wrong specs were presented. This way, there is NO CONFUSION over which model it was specifically, in this case the GROUP 3 rather than the GROUP A version.
7. RE: GTS-R. You CLAIMED that HSV's own website lists it as a 1995. To quote the owl....O RLY??
http://www.hsv.com.au/hsv/showroom/classicsInfo.aspx?PageID=Performance&Series=VS&Model=gtsr
From that link:
8. RE: Blueprint. It was NEVER available on SS's (they only had the 5.0L), it was only on GTS-R's and to a lesser extent, GTS 215's (both 5.7L's). AND like the BT1, it was given a seperate prefix but I messed up with the location. From memory I thought it was on the plate, it's actually in the owner's manual or if you weren't sure/didn't have the information, a simple call to HSV would tell you what was fitted by quoting your build number.
9. RE: Mad Max car. I disagree only with the "should have mad max car in title", nothing to do with could you buy one from Ford. Why would you buy an "Interceptor" when Ford had the XB GT and Cobra to buy and play with??
10. RE: Falcon ESP. It was standard with the 4.1L in the XD with the 351ci as an option, for the XE they put the 351 in as the standard motor.
11. RE: Other hi-po Falcons. I DIDN'T JUST SPEAK ABOUT TUNER CARS, unless you quote Tickford as a tuner, so that means the TE50 shouldn't be considered either with that logic. The Moffat cars were tuners, but they were done by the same mob who created the Phase 5 (Phase Autos) so they do have an indirect lineage. However, the XR6 with VCT was a FACTORY FORD. The XR8, FACTORY FORD. Tickford was sub-contracted to do the extra work to the motors and suspension to make it more sporty, all the way back from the EB-ED days until FPV became a reality.
And the EA Falcon TURBO was guess what....a FACTORY OPTION!! You could go into any dealer, tick that option and voila, you ended up with a TO4 turbo onto your 3.9L motor. Seems like you didn't do your homework on that one unv412.
I'm off to sleep, it's 3am here now..........
Now, to answer the comment about correcting both TVB & myself, the fact of the matter is that TVB asked a few of us to help him out and I stepped up to the plate unv412, any problem with that??
And considering this is the first thing I've done in OVER 2 MONTHS on GTPlanet....not even attending to my own stuff and stuff I'm supposed to have done in the recent past, to get that response from you almost gets a bird response back from me.....telling me to research my stuff....fine, you go and pick all the 🤬 pictures, go find ALL the specs and pass them to TVB like I have on EACH AND EVERY OCCASION UNTIL THAT POST!! (check my post at #463 for example!). And considering I have told you via PM what I did in the auto journalism sector, you should know that I don't just blah blah whatever comes to mind, I RESEARCH EVERYTHING I BRING TO THIS THREAD!
I was playing nicely until then but you flicked the B-switch on me so here goes:
1. RE: Kingswood. It WAS marketed as an SS...but guess what the standard pack was....the 253ci!! So by putting the 4.2L prefix in, it distinguishes itself from the optional 308ci.
2. RE: VL Commodore Director. Like the BT1, it was given a different prefix on the VIN plate. I mixed myself up with the 3.0L bit, that was on most other versions, but the stroker got a different prefix aswell.
3. RE: HZ model. I did mix myself up with HX and HZ.....I was reading ahead to your other comment previously about the HX year model in that other post and mixed the two comments up in my thoughts and it came out in post.
ops: You are right, HZ was only sedan.4. RE: The SV6 Part A. If it was MY list, I almost would've told them to rack off with that garbage, my old 7M-GE in the Cressy kept up with the Alloytec 190's. But it's not mine, it's TVB's and therefore it's his choice to keep it in there. I only come around to help if there's any disputes. The only V6 Commodore that deserves a place there in the whole list is the XU6, atleast that's supercharged.
5. RE: The SV6 Part B. You mention about the many mustangs from one year being in the list....what's the MAJOR difference between them all???
Think about it.....
.....
.....
let you think more.....
.....
It's because they ALL HAVE DIFFERENT MOTORS!! The SS and all the other derivatives of it (R8, Senator, etc.) are ALL BASED ON THE SAME MOTOR for that year!! From [VN] to [VT I], they used the Holden 304, didn't matter on spec for everything that wasn't a GTS, and the GTS got the stroked 304 in the VR GTS and developed it further in the [VS] GTS-R. Same with the LS1 motored [VT II to VY II] models, then the LS2 for the VZ and VE I, and now we have the LS3 6.2L in the VE II.
6. RE: Power Levels. It's VERY IMPORTANT that power levels are stated in my opinion because as been shown, the wrong car has been presented to the list compared to the specs that are shown when the wrong specs were presented. This way, there is NO CONFUSION over which model it was specifically, in this case the GROUP 3 rather than the GROUP A version.
7. RE: GTS-R. You CLAIMED that HSV's own website lists it as a 1995. To quote the owl....O RLY??
http://www.hsv.com.au/hsv/showroom/classicsInfo.aspx?PageID=Performance&Series=VS&Model=gtsr
From that link:
That's from HSV's own site and wikipedia backs it up. So next time, practice what you preach regarding researching your information before you even criticise others work!!
8. RE: Blueprint. It was NEVER available on SS's (they only had the 5.0L), it was only on GTS-R's and to a lesser extent, GTS 215's (both 5.7L's). AND like the BT1, it was given a seperate prefix but I messed up with the location. From memory I thought it was on the plate, it's actually in the owner's manual or if you weren't sure/didn't have the information, a simple call to HSV would tell you what was fitted by quoting your build number.
9. RE: Mad Max car. I disagree only with the "should have mad max car in title", nothing to do with could you buy one from Ford. Why would you buy an "Interceptor" when Ford had the XB GT and Cobra to buy and play with??
10. RE: Falcon ESP. It was standard with the 4.1L in the XD with the 351ci as an option, for the XE they put the 351 in as the standard motor.
11. RE: Other hi-po Falcons. I DIDN'T JUST SPEAK ABOUT TUNER CARS, unless you quote Tickford as a tuner, so that means the TE50 shouldn't be considered either with that logic. The Moffat cars were tuners, but they were done by the same mob who created the Phase 5 (Phase Autos) so they do have an indirect lineage. However, the XR6 with VCT was a FACTORY FORD. The XR8, FACTORY FORD. Tickford was sub-contracted to do the extra work to the motors and suspension to make it more sporty, all the way back from the EB-ED days until FPV became a reality.
And the EA Falcon TURBO was guess what....a FACTORY OPTION!! You could go into any dealer, tick that option and voila, you ended up with a TO4 turbo onto your 3.9L motor. Seems like you didn't do your homework on that one unv412.
I'm off to sleep, it's 3am here now..........
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If you're wanting a short post, just skip to another thread, this is a novel.
Now, to answer the comment about correcting both TVB & myself, the fact of the matter is that TVB asked a few of us to help him out and I stepped up to the plate unv412, any problem with that??
And considering this is the first thing I've done in OVER 2 MONTHS on GTPlanet....not even attending to my own stuff and stuff I'm supposed to have done in the recent past, to get that response from you almost gets a bird response back from me.....telling me to research my stuff....fine, you go and pick all the 🤬 pictures, go find ALL the specs and pass them to TVB like I have on EACH AND EVERY OCCASION UNTIL THAT POST!! (check my post at #463 for example!). And considering I have told you via PM what I did in the auto journalism sector, you should know that I don't just blah blah whatever comes to mind, I RESEARCH EVERYTHING I BRING TO THIS THREAD!
I was playing nicely until then but you flicked the B-switch on me so here goes:
1. RE: Kingswood. It WAS marketed as an SS...but guess what the standard pack was....the 253ci!! So by putting the 4.2L prefix in, it distinguishes itself from the optional 308ci.
2. RE: VL Commodore Director. Like the BT1, it was given a different prefix on the VIN plate. I mixed myself up with the 3.0L bit, that was on most other versions, but the stroker got a different prefix aswell.
3. RE: HZ model. I did mix myself up with HX and HZ.....I was reading ahead to your other comment previously about the HX year model in that other post and mixed the two comments up in my thoughts and it came out in post.
4. RE: The SV6 Part A. If it was MY list, I almost would've told them to rack off with that garbage, my old 7M-GE in the Cressy kept up with the Alloytec 190's. But it's not mine, it's TVB's and therefore it's his choice to keep it in there. I only come around to help if there's any disputes. The only V6 Commodore that deserves a place there in the whole list is the XU6, atleast that's supercharged.
5. RE: The SV6 Part B. You mention about the many mustangs from one year being in the list....what's the MAJOR difference between them all???
Think about it.....
.....
.....
let you think more.....
.....
It's because they ALL HAVE DIFFERENT MOTORS!! The SS and all the other derivatives of it (R8, Senator, etc.) are ALL BASED ON THE SAME MOTOR for that year!! From [VN] to [VT I], they used the Holden 304, didn't matter on spec for everything that wasn't a GTS, and the GTS got the stroked 304 in the VR GTS and developed it further in the [VS] GTS-R. Same with the LS1 motored [VT II to VY II] models, then the LS2 for the VZ and VE I, and now we have the LS3 6.2L in the VE II.
6. RE: Power Levels. It's VERY IMPORTANT that power levels are stated in my opinion because as been shown, the wrong car has been presented to the list compared to the specs that are shown when the wrong specs were presented. This way, there is NO CONFUSION over which model it was specifically, in this case the GROUP 3 rather than the GROUP A version.
7. RE: GTS-R. You CLAIMED that HSV's own website lists it as a 1995. To quote the owl....O RLY??
http://www.hsv.com.au/hsv/showroom/classicsInfo.aspx?PageID=Performance&Series=VS&Model=gtsr
From that link:
That's from HSV's own site and wikipedia backs it up. So next time, practice what you preach regarding researching your information before you even criticise others work!!
8. RE: Blueprint. It was NEVER available on SS's (they only had the 5.0L), it was only on GTS-R's and to a lesser extent, GTS 215's (both 5.7L's). AND like the BT1, it was given a seperate prefix but I messed up with the location. From memory I thought it was on the plate, it's actually in the owner's manual or if you weren't sure/didn't have the information, a simple call to HSV would tell you what was fitted by quoting your build number.
9. RE: Mad Max car. I disagree only with the "should have mad max car in title", nothing to do with could you buy one from Ford. Why would you buy an "Interceptor" when Ford had the XB GT and Cobra to buy and play with??
10. RE: Falcon ESP. It was standard with the 4.1L in the XD with the 351ci as an option, for the XE they put the 351 in as the standard motor.
11. RE: Other hi-po Falcons. I DIDN'T JUST SPEAK ABOUT TUNER CARS, unless you quote Tickford as a tuner, so that means the TE50 shouldn't be considered either with that logic. The Moffat cars were tuners, but they were done by the same mob who created the Phase 5 (Phase Autos) so they do have an indirect lineage. However, the XR6 with VCT was a FACTORY FORD. The XR8, FACTORY FORD. Tickford was sub-contracted to do the extra work to the motors and suspension to make it more sporty, all the way back from the EB-ED days until FPV became a reality.
And the EA Falcon TURBO was guess what....a FACTORY OPTION!! You could go into any dealer, tick that option and voila, you ended up with a TO4 turbo onto your 3.9L motor. Seems like you didn't do your homework on that one unv412.
I'm off to sleep, it's 3am here now..........
Dang, you know a lot about the Aussie cars! Especially impressive for three in the morning. Also, no offense to everyone else involved in this, but I would call this owned.
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I'm Aussie, it's in my blood to know about my own countries cars.
Just like the US, UK, European or Japanese guys knowing all their various models from their cars. For us Aussies, we dispute and debate amongst each other because it's allows us to progress once we are all in agreement and we don't pull punches with it. It's nowhere near a case of ownage (even if I wished it was ) because unv412 did point out a few stuff-up's I had made while typing and was correct to point them out though, stuff like the the XD ESP....I said the XE because I knew it was a 351ci standard, not the 250ci that was in the XD. 👍And to bring up a previous Aussie car mentioned recently, the FPV GS...it is a good point to include that car as it is a more subtle version of the GT, and the power level is right inbetween what an XR8 and GT would be. If TVB wants specs and pics of that, I'll put them up.
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