The WTC 600 in Tokyo done without exploits is genuinely one of the hardest races in single player in gt7 - share your setups, tips, and cars

[jrbabbitt]

Of course. I detest it completely. There's almost nothing lower on my level bar than wall riding !

Wall riding has its own circle in hell, it is just a level below pedophiles...

 

[johnson_57]

however with low DF settings.

Low downforce you say......... Have you tried doing the race with an "automotive engine swapped brick" that has no downforce at all ?
Totally legit no wall riding two stop race. The time screenshot is my 3rd attempt when I got the CRB as well.

 

[ROCKET JOE]

Low downforce you say......... Have you tried doing the race with an "automotive engine swapped brick" that has no downforce at all ?
Totally legit no wall riding two stop race. The time screenshot is my 3rd attempt when I got the CRB as well.

Deserves a laugh , then a thumbs up 👍.

 

[mynameis66]

Engine swapped A45 is a blast.Go max weight with max hp or lower weight with less hp,medium or high speed turbo,either ones a winner.A one stop dash for tyres and a little fuel.The non swapped A45 is a good solid car too.

 

[Turbokoo]

Not sure whether to post this here or post this at all as I haven't run the WTC600 at Tokyo for almost 2 years after stopping the grind.
So I do not have that experience that you guys have neither have I tried a lot of different cars.
Since the race has been part of the Weekly Challenges recently I came back to it though ending up with the Mustang Boss 429 which had been suggested by @Nebuc72 . Went on with a setup by @johnson_57 and got fascinated about that car. I'm talking about the standard version, no swap engine installed.

After about 2 handful of races with a CRB as a must and without wall riding of course the best time I could achieve was a 25:08.
FYI my race strategy always is SM tires, FM1 with a pit stop after 7 laps for tires and fuel. I've been very content with my results already but in the back of my head I always had that idea to break into the 24s. Which seemed beyond my skill horizon though.
I then saw the replay of a Japanese driver who did this successfully by using quite a similar tune, however with low DF settings. Lowering the DF means you can drive with less weight - the car is a beast anyway but this felt really tough. Especially since the low DF variant is more vulnerable on the wet track with puddles and the likes. Another positive effect besides better top speed and acceleration is shorter braking distances of course.

I must admit I needed an hour of driving to get accustomed to what happens on track but hey, I finally ( my third attempt ) got there. And there's still a bit more in it ;-) Really proud of having managed an absolutely clean run, if you're interested you'll find it in the in-game showcase : Title is "Born to run.", #rjruns #weeklychallenges ...

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Can you or @johnson_57 re-share settings? I still have stock suspension and it's easy win but lap times are 2:05 at the end

 

[ROCKET JOE]

Can you or @johnson_57 re-share settings? I still have stock suspension and it's easy win but lap times are 2:05 at the end

Here you go, the setup you asked for :

Hope it helps ... 👍

 

[Wilsonson]

I have tried this race a couple of times now and have never gotten the CRB once. Could someone please give every detail on things losing you the CRB here?

My understanding is this:

• touch other drivers unless when lapping them
• Cross the white lines at the final u-turn with more than 2 wheels (standard GT7 track limits, this also applies to the white line on the left after the exit before the final left kink towards the main straight) or touch the barrels
• Everything else should be fair game or rather no other part of the track has the opportunity to cross a white line and touching walls is no problem

One remaining doubt I have is the white line to the right after turn 2. Is that fine to cross to the right or does that count towards the CRB too? And am I correct with my assumption of track limits in the final u-turn or is touching the white lines completely off limits there?

Thanks for clarification!

 

[Tommy_D]

As far as I know it’s just the white lines around the hair pin. As for tapping cars, just don’t do it. I’ve had the AI try to pass me on the brakes in to turn 1 and hit the back or side of me and still got the CRB, but you can’t dive bomb them and tap em going in to a turn. Usually if you are lapping someone, like the black viper, you can tap them but they generally are so slow that you can easily pass them. I did once smash in to the rear end of the viper because he cut across the track while I was trying to pass him and still got the CRB.

 

[Wilsonson]

When you say white lines around the hair pin do you mean not fully crossing them or do you mean merely touching them?

 

[Tommy_D]

You can touch them, but don’t cross them with your whole car. It’s basic track limit rules.

 

[Buckethead75]

Did anyone manage to win the race with the Vulcan ? It has ****** top speed and fuel economy. I tried to switch to comfort medium tires to set the horsepower higher but it's still not enough to reach a decent top speed and grip out of slow corners is terrible.

 

[jad_morffier]

I've spent every day, all week, trying to win the ELANTRA race with a completely stock car. I have won a couple without CRB but dang it's driving me up the wall lol.

 

[johnson_57]

Way back when the swap became available for the '65 Mini I won this race with it (the post must be in this thread somewhere). I Saw some crazy Mini activity in another thread and decided to give it a go again after all the physics updates we've had. It was a one stop race on SS tyres. Pit at the end of lap 7 for new tyres and fuel for 5 laps. Most of the laps was low 2:10's which is not good enough for a fastest lap on HARD difficulty. I Did manage to get the CRB though. The handling is actually not that bad and the top speed is a pretty good 310kmh with my setup. I Did use TC2 to help keep the wheel spin down.

 

[Johnny Caisse]

Way back when the swap became available for the '65 Mini I won this race with it (the post must be in this thread somewhere). I Saw some crazy Mini activity in another thread and decided to give it a go again after all the physics updates we've had. It was a one stop race on SS tyres. Pit at the end of lap 7 for new tyres and fuel for 5 laps. Most of the laps was low 2:10's which is not good enough for a fastest lap on HARD difficulty. I Did manage to get the CRB though. The handling is actually not that bad and the top speed is a pretty good 310kmh with my setup. I Did use TC2 to help keep the wheel spin down.

I wonder if adding weaker tires on the rear could help. I often do this on FF cars but I admit I use ASM and TCS.

 

[johnson_57]

I Tried some of the new engine swapped cars.

The RX7 is simply lovely and my new favorite car for 600 and 700 races. Easy no stop race on SH tyres.

The Rotary Copen is surprisingly good and gets up to 350kmh down the straight. It is set up with SS tyres and I did use TC2 to keep down the wheel spin. One stop race pitting at the end of lap 7 for new tyres and fuel for 5 laps.

 

[NoCreativo]

I used an detuned Aventador for the race, the same car I used to defeat the Xiaomi on Nurburgring. Surprisingly, the hypercar races are anything but easy on the same car (not so surprising really)
Of course I talk about the normal Aventador, not the Superveloce, that one would need a seroius downgrade

 

[RCKakashi14]

Been a long time since I last touched this race.

One of the many "honest" cars that can do this race effortlessly. No crazy downforce setups nor engine swaps.

 

[RCKakashi14]

Emma Greene being a witch.

Just some simple mods installed.

 

[RCKakashi14]

Once again, a few simple mods did the trick.

 

[lbpomg95]

Hello chums - if I'm on easy difficulty running a no-stop strategy, does anyone know what average lap-time I'll need to get in order to win?

 

[Dragonwhisky]

Hello chums - if I'm on easy difficulty running a no-stop strategy, does anyone know what average lap-time I'll need to get in order to win?

2:15 should get it done.

 

[lbpomg95]

2:15 should get it done.

Many thanks.

 

[nostradavor2]

This is still best race

 

[Dragonwhisky]

It has the highest payout per minute at any rate.

 

[jad_morffier]

This is still best race

Totally agree. Still my fav grind race.

 

[johnson_57]

Hello chums - if I'm on easy difficulty running a no-stop strategy, does anyone know what average lap-time I'll need to get in order to win?

Doing 2:15's will get you home with about a 10 second margin. The first lap was 2:25.

 

[nostradavor2]

it's big difference between easy and hard than.. on hard japanese dude runs 26:56-57... I use Delta Rally Car on SH and Fuel 2 so no stop race too, if you drive okish without any wall riding and stuff you can do 12s all around

 

[RCKakashi14]

• Doing at least 2:10s will surely give you a win. But first, patience is a must on the first two laps.
• Achieving 300 km/h is already passable. No need to hit 320s or 330s especially when you are running with "legitimate" tunes.
• 4WDs are a great help. Gr.Bs will do this no sweat at all, even if they struggle to reach 300 km/h.
• If you do not have access to engine swaps yet, do not fret; there are cars that have decent fuel economy. One great example is the C7 Corvette. It can do 8 laps on FM1, even with a "Close Ratio: High" transmission installed, and even with light mods, it can do over 300 km/h on the main straight.

- Do not use anti-lag at all. It has a significant impact on fuel economy.

- Sport Hards seem to offer the best balance of grip and longevity; especially that the tire wear is at 12x.


To sum up, the race will teach you how to strategize; which will ultimately benefit you in other races.

 

[jrbabbitt]

Jumped on my C7 and touched it here and there and still was not good enough...

 

[johnson_57]

Another no pit stop car. GT-R R32 with the V8 swap.
Lap 1 was 2:19
Lap 2 was 2:12
Lap 3 was 2:09
The rest all 2:08's