Three Hundred Miles Per Hour

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320.79 No/NoS LSR In a GT-One

Im making the Vid as we speak.

It will be up shortly

Ill mess arround more with the Chapparral latter on, In not saying he wheelied, but maybe went arround backwards or something as it really seem far fetched to get that speed before the finish line, but Its all good, maybe she does get there, I just need to play arround with her more.

Either way, I topped the Speed, And the Gt-one will DEFINATLY go faster without NoS, this was just 5 mins of fiddling.
 
Is there a No/NoS Road Car LSR?

If there isnt (Its probably because the speed would be under 300mph)

Should that Speed go in a new thread if its under 300mph, and only come here if its over?
 
Alright, So I got ripped off with the Road car LSR.

On my mph Guage it read 315mph

On the Screen after it Read 314.90

But the Record number in replay and reccords came out 314.89.

Im going to push it to 315mph, Im sure I can hit the speed before the line. For now 314.89 is the LSR.

Here is the Vid link, its not optimized yet but it should be soon.

Click here to watch the Production Car 314.89mphLSR run
 
Rac3rX
Geuss who got the New Road Car LSR?

314.90mph Lotus Espirit

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Im in the Works Making a Vid, But I want to hit 315mph first, I did it in this run but only 314.90mph came up, so Im going to run her a few more times.
Mother 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬
That being said, good job. I won't rest on it though. No no. The Lotus Esprit is not a Chaparral 2D.
Toronado
Thanks. I think the GT could do it. Probably not with me at the helm though.
Anyways, DE, I have a question. If you ran a car that could be used with nitrous up to 300 without nitrous, that would require a replay, right?
Dark Elite
Toronado, if you ran a car that CAN take nitrous WITHOUT nitrous then yes I would need a replay because there's no other way to show it's not on the bottle.

DE
2 Days later...
Rac3rX
What is The No/NoS LSR?

Who has it and what car did they use?

And Will it count if I use a NoS capable car but Dont install NoS? (I will make a Vid for the lap)

Anybody know?

Dark Elite
The No NOs record is retained by Ozmac with the Chaparral 2D, a no-NOs run in a car that can take NOs is permitted, but it does need a video of the full run to prove that NOs was not used. I think I've answered that somewhere before, sorry for the video demand but otherwise it's impossible to tell.

DE
:lol:
Edit: 295.72 MPH with Ford GT '05. Yes, this is going to turn into another Chaparral.
 
Rac3rX
Geuss who got the New Road Car LSR?

314.90mph Lotus Espirit

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Im in the Works Making a Vid, But I want to hit 315mph first, I did it in this run but only 314.90mph came up, so Im going to run her a few more times.
And guess who took it back? It seems I only needed softer front compounds so I could run the higher banking for more speed:
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I don't screw around with the Lotus...
 
Toronado
And guess who took it back? It seems I only needed softer front compounds so I could run the higher banking for more speed:
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I don't screw around with the Lotus...


Nice one Dude!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whoohoo Competition. :sly:
 
Leo
we'll see about that..:trouble:
Bring it on!

Nice little battle we have going on here for the Esprit 👍👍 very well done Toronado for taking the current lead! Rac3r, I don't need to watch your video as that speed is no longer the LSR but I might take a look tonight anyway. My Esprit may need to come out on the attack if this keeps up!

EDIT - Oh, about road-car No-NOs? I don't think any road car is capable of getting 300mph without NOs, so not here. Nice idea though.

DE
 
Toronado
And guess who took it back? It seems I only needed softer front compounds so I could run the higher banking for more speed:
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I don't screw around with the Lotus...

And Geuss who takes it back?

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I little Nudge, but still a Nudge. :sly:

& Thanks for the compoud idea. I was suprised when I got a better speed with harder compound (Then what I was using)
 
And another one

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Vid Comming Soon!!!

This 100% a Road Car & not a Race Car, as much So as the Espirit 350, it even has Less hp then the Espirit.

AND ESPECIALLY Due to the Fact the ROAD CAR was Built BEFORE the LeManz car was. The LeManz car was built From the Road Car.

Its the Fastest and Most expensive Nissan Production car.

DAME!!!! It has a Million Dollar Price Tag

"The concept behind the creation of the Nissan R390 GT1 was to push reliability and dynamic performance to the absolute limit without compromising the driveability of a street car," explained Mr Yutaka Hagiwara, General Manager of Nissan Motorsports and Planning Centre.


And the car itself is very comparable to the Jaguar XJ220.
 
Rac3rX
And another one

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DAME!!!! It has a Million Dollar Price Tag
And the car itself is very comparable to the Jaguar XJ220.
Not to start another Cerbera Speed 12-like arguement (and I honestly hope it doesn't start another one), but DE counts both versions of the R390 GT1 as race cars.
Sam's Supercars Race Car List
Racing Class
Toyota 88C-V Race Car
Nissan R92CP
Sauber C9
BMW V12 LMR
TVR Speed 12
Mazda 787B
Mercedes CLK-GTR
Nissan R390 Road Car
Nissan R390 Race Car
Chaparral 2D
Toyota GT-One (TS020)
Audi R8
PlayStation Pescarolo 2004
Bentley Speed 8
Volkswagen W12 Nardo
Gillet Vertigo Race Car
I see his point with it too. That being said, god job on the Lotus Speed. I'll counter it, but I'll have to do it tomorrow.
 
Toronado
Not to start another Cerbera Speed 12-like arguement (and I honestly hope it doesn't start another one), but DE counts both versions of the R390 GT1 as race cars.

I see his point with it too. That being said, god job on the Lotus Speed. I'll counter it, but I'll have to do it tomorrow.


What specifications are these classifications being made apon? Are they the same used to disqualify the Speed 12? lol!

It sounds Pretty Lame to me To seperate it(My Opinion!) Its got less hp then the Lotus, and doesnt go that much quicker, & its done for no justifyable reason (as there was none for the Speed 12, but me pointing out a Big Mix up people had with a diferent car) Its also pretty lame if that Dudes, personal opinions been made something official or taken that way (As there has been nothing legitimate to disqualify some of these cars) But either way, Lotus or R390, it makes no diference to me.
 
Toronado
Well, I look at it like this:
Just because it wasn't purpose built for Le Mans doesn't mean it wasn't built with Le Mans in mind. The Cerbera is ratehr skecthy, I'll say, but the R390 is less so. They didn't exactly change that much when they made it a race car, besides adding a spoiler and foglights. And it was built to fit exact FIA GT1 requirements.

Your right, it was Built as a Road Car with LM in Mind. However its still a road car.

It being really fast should be the only reason to disqualify it.

The Qualifications should be Simple.

If the Game Lets you Race with it in Production Car Only races ITs A Production Car!

If the Game lets you Race with it Race Car Only Races, Its a Race Car!!

To Sum it Up, If the Game Says its a Production car, Its A Production Car, If the Game Says its a Race Car, Its A Race Car!

But, if we have to be dificult and go further then that.

If you are permited to drive it on the street legally in the real world, its a Production Car, If you cant Its Not.

And The reason "after modded it would never be permited to drive on the street" is Not a excuse, because you wouldnt be permited to drive ANY of the cars once fully upgraded.

And the TVR I find to be the Biggest Joke, THERE is nothing to disqualify it at all.

(Forget the Fact its A few mph off the curent fastest road car LSR ta boot)

2 + 2 = 4 Simple as that.

People thought the Cerebera Speed 12 was the Speed 12 (2 Diferent Cars)

Its one thing to make a mistake based on a confusion & realize it, to srill dismiss it even after its been proven to have gone to production (It being canceled and not going to production being the reason its considered a "Race Car" but this was the fate of thhe Speed 12 not the Cerebera Speed 12, people really need to understand they are NOT THE SAME CAR!!!!
 
Toronado
Well, I look at it like this:
Just because it wasn't purpose built for Le Mans doesn't mean it wasn't built with Le Mans in mind. The Cerbera is ratehr skecthy, I'll say, but the R390 is less so. They didn't exactly change that much when they made it a race car, besides adding a spoiler and foglights. And it was built to fit exact FIA GT1 requirements.

And here is the Full Statement

"Le Mans GT1 Class regulations which required manufacturers to build at least one street-legal version of the race car. Unlike many others, Nissan built the road car first and built the racing version from it"

The Production car being Soo good, and the design not needing to undergo alot of changes to be a Race car, doesnt make it a Race car.

There are Plenty of Racing circuits that Most of these cars are upgraded & compete in as racing cars (SCCA, ect)
 
Rac3rX
And here is the Full Statement

"Le Mans GT1 Class regulations which required manufacturers to build at least one street-legal version of the race car. Unlike many others, Nissan built the road car first and built the racing version from it"
Which basically means that Nissan built a new Duaer 962 LM, which isn't the epitomy of road. I agree that the Cerbera 12-pot being a race car is a little odd, especially since they never actually raced them, but the extent of the modifications from the R390 road car to the race car was basically removing (very little) weight and adding downforce, fog lights and power. And I do know the difference between the Speed 12 and the Cerbera Speed 12. The Speed 12 was a road spec race car, literally, for a series that modified it's rules specifiaclly so TVR couldn't enter it.
 
It should be simple.

If the Game considers it a Production car, Its a Production car.

If the Game consideres it a Race Car, Its a Race Car.

Why would it be any other way???
 
Toronado
And I do know the difference between the Speed 12 and the Cerbera Speed 12. The Speed 12 was a road spec race car, literally, for a series that modified it's rules specifiaclly so TVR couldn't enter it.

My Point Not directed at you but DE cosiders it a "Race Car". As he Explained the reason behind it being that the Speed 12 was pulled from production. It was but the Cerbera Speed 12 wasnt. Once it was shown the only logical explination could be a mix up of the 2, the reason then became, "The TVR Speed 12 car in the game was never made for the road and so it is not a road car." & The Final Word after being proved it was built specifically for road use, and that it has been released, and it wasnt pulled from production, its the Speed 12 that was pulled from production, the reason became "The TVR Speed 12 will be catagorised as a racing car. It always has been a racing car here and nobody else has ever had a problem with that. It is simply too powerful in it's modified state to be classed as a road car. I repeat, the TVR Speed 12 will be catagorised as a racing car."

"It is simply too powerful in it's modified state to be classed as a road car."

I could list off a Bunch INCLUDING the Espirit that have better Power to weight ratios, and Plenty with Simply more Power.

It should be simple.

If the Game considers it a Production car, Its a Production car.

If the Game consideres it a Race Car, Its a Race Car.

Why would it be any other way???
 
well, im really dissapointed to see what this post has come to....a bunch of bickering and *****ing.....cant we all just get along....i mean really, its all fun and games, and its just that, a game....no one knows who you are in real life, unless of course you have a friend from real life posting on this same website/thread.....but even then, why does it even matter? what do you get for all this hard wrk and argueing? nothing...but your acct name on the top of a list, i mean it apears as if everyone has become so entangled about this stuff that we have gone from pictures, to videos.....im just really dissapointed :irked: ......not in you DE, but in what these people have done to this thread...i think i counted about 3 pages with nothing but *****ing and arguing on them.....so with this, i will bid everyone a farewell, and only two people from this thread will get a special good bye, those two are DE, and Fast eddie, peace you two, and good luck....

Im out....farewell
 
You seem to be forgetting the rules in Post #1 of this thread, you know the one that states
300mph Club Rules
6. Whether a car is catagorised as road or racing class is usually very clear, however in some situations it is not. My decision is final when there is doubt on this.
This doesn't mean that I won't listen to input, but we did agree some time ago that the Speed 12, which I probably know better than you is not a Cerbera, despite it having Cerbera actually written on it in the game it isn't the Cerbera 12, so as that's settled you should not be digging it back up now. The Speed 12 was classed as a race car. By saying power I mean the low-speed driveability - there isn't any. It's simply too uncontrolled to be an effective road car, and in the standard specification is clearly set up for track use. HOWEVER, the Speed 12's catagorisation is settled. We will leave that behind.

The Nissan R390 GT1 'Road Car' was built for the road, but to the exact specifications for the GT1 classes and was immediately made into a race car after production, and in fact the only modification made was the rear wing and a paintjob. This means that to all intents and purposes the R390 is a race car in both it's forms. If the Speed 12 is catagorised as a road car, how can you possibly justify this car being a road car? It simply isn't.

Rac3rX
If the Game considers it a Production car, Its a Production car.

If the Game consideres it a Race Car, Its a Race Car.

Why would it be any other way???
Because the game is not always accurate.. It has in fact mis-named some cars. We need far more exacting specifications than the game gives us.

However, congratulations on the new Esprit record.

EDIT - Lowizle, if you think it's time to leave, then go ahead. You're quite right, but all the same you will be missed. Peace out my friend.

DE
 
I wasn't going to come back here, but there's something about Rac3Rx which doesn't ring true, to me. I might be wrong, and if so I'll apologise is the proof is there...

Rac3Rx: your vids aren't proper replays. They're artsy heavy edits of runs, with lots of cuts to the vids at various stages. I've got my doubts. In GT3 the fastest guys were only a little bit faster than the next guys. You're too far in front of the field for my liking. What's wrong with sending someone (like a mod) your settings? I've got too many doubts about you at this stage for you to wear any boastful badges at the bottom of your posts. If I'm wrong, I'll post an apology, because your speeds are amazing - but until you come up with some truly indisputable proof of what you're doing – I don't believe you, man. There's plenty of room for you to look legal on a posted vid, but not cut the mustard elsewhere.

DE: you've done a fantastic job modding this thread - over 860 posts and more and still lots of smiles all-round. Well done. Tough job. You ought to be a mod here. But I think something isn't quite right with the top speeds posted, and if you check around at other GT sites with properly run databases, these crappy looking replays and other bits posted in this thread are not worth a cracker in the long run. Too much room for fudging to be guaranteed. Until someone independent gets the settings, there's a major question mark over all the best speeds - and that goes for the race cars as well as the road cars. (I reckon the fast Lotus cars get airborne around 312 onwards).

DE: the only proper replays are on memory cards, etc that can be looked at in detail, a couple of times over, from every angle. The wanky replays shown here by Rac3rx aren't good enough to judge by.

Farewell all, it has been fun, but like Lowizle I think it's time to sign off for good. See you all at a database where there cannot possibly be any arguments, such as HGT.
 
Farewell ozmac and lowizle, you've been great, not getting involved into flamewars etc.. plety of 👍 's and :bowdown: 's to you guys. :cheers:
 
Ozmac
I wasn't going to come back here, but there's something about Rac3Rx which doesn't ring true, to me. I might be wrong, and if so I'll apologise is the proof is there...

Rac3Rx: your vids aren't proper replays. They're artsy heavy edits of runs, with lots of cuts to the vids at various stages. I've got my doubts. In GT3 the fastest guys were only a little bit faster than the next guys. You're too far in front of the field for my liking. What's wrong with sending someone (like a mod) your settings? I've got too many doubts about you at this stage for you to wear any boastful badges at the bottom of your posts. If I'm wrong, I'll post an apology, because your speeds are amazing - but until you come up with some truly indisputable proof of what you're doing – I don't believe you, man. There's plenty of room for you to look legal on a posted vid, but not cut the mustard elsewhere.

DE: you've done a fantastic job modding this thread - over 860 posts and more and still lots of smiles all-round. Well done. Tough job. You ought to be a mod here. But I think something isn't quite right with the top speeds posted, and if you check around at other GT sites with properly run databases, these crappy looking replays and other bits posted in this thread are not worth a cracker in the long run. Too much room for fudging to be guaranteed. Until someone independent gets the settings, there's a major question mark over all the best speeds - and that goes for the race cars as well as the road cars. (I reckon the fast Lotus cars get airborne around 312 onwards).

DE: the only proper replays are on memory cards, etc that can be looked at in detail, a couple of times over, from every angle. The wanky replays shown here by Rac3rx aren't good enough to judge by.

Farewell all, it has been fun, but like Lowizle I think it's time to sign off for good. See you all at a database where there cannot possibly be any arguments, such as HGT.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHHAAH

"the Speed 12, which I probably know better than you is not a Cerbera, despite it having Cerbera actually written on it in the game it isn't the Cerbera 12"

YES IT ISSSSSSS, IT DOESNT EVEN LOOK LIKE THE SPEED 12. And obviously you dont know it better then me, look at your pathetic arguments, they dont even make sense. Sad!!!

Here is a Pic of the "Speed 12"

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Here is a Pic of the "Cerbera Speed 12"

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They look alot alike but are quite diferent.

Here is Info On the "Cerbera Speed 12" Click Here "

The Car in the Game Genious is a Cerbera :shakesheadwithpity:

At first its too powerfull, now your saying its not even a Cerbera?? Dude you need serious help.

The Car in the Game Genious is a Cerbera :shakesheadwithpity:

The Cerbera Speed 12 in the Game, is the CERBERA SPEED 12. IT DOESNT EVEN LOOK LIKE THE SPEED 12, WHAT DO YOU BAIS Your "despite it having Cerbera actually written on it in the game it isn't the Cerbera 12" ON????????

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Hey Ozmac

Thats Right! I got the Skills to Do it! If you cant Ozmac, that must mean Nobody can. HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH, Ill be hoest, I beleve Im one of the Best tuners for GT4 out there. You cant dispute ANY OF MY VIDEOS, HELL I CAN SEND YOU ANY REPLAY YOU WANT IN SLOW MOTION IF YOU LIKE!!!!!!!IF you Still doubt them GOOD FOR YOU, Im STILL FASTER< AND HITTING ALL MY POSTED SPEEDS LEGIT.

And if Ive used some Magic program to fake the Vids? Tell me what program, Hell why not do it, Fake a Vid, it should be so easy from what you tell me you should be able to recreat at least one of my vids. And keep in Mind some of my runs have Multiple vids, some paused to highlight the fact I still have my wheels on the ground (How did I fake that VIdeo Genious???)


Yeah, Just because I was able to Do it, means it couldnt be real, HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MY SETTING WILL BE POSTED, WHEN I WANT TO POST THEM, IF YOU DONT BELEVE THE SPEED WITHOUT THEM, AFTER PLENTY OF VIDEOS OF EVERY STEP, GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Be Gone slow one!

I post a File download from savefile for Full replay with No Cuts, & replays with Zoom ins on the wheels to show them on the ground. If ever there is a Vid with any doubt, Ill throw it up in slow Motions or however you want it.

Dont forget at the begining of this battle people thought it was imposible to have a + 350mph GT-one on 4 wheels. Since Ive proved it can be done there are a few who bumped there speed with it to + 350mph speeds. hmmmmmmmmm

The reason I do cuts, is because the first straigh is long and boring, & it just doesnt matter (Because it doesnt make a Diference), even if I were to make a fake run and cut it together the TIME is a give away, besides, what would I be cutting out? Are you a sore looser? lol lol lol.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHA

Sooooooo Now people are leaving (Not Because of BS and bickering, as the last post where the disscussion came back to the Cerbera, it was a Discussion (One where 2 sides have diferent opinions, things like this happen all the time, it didnt get out of hand at all) But Of course this can be a OUT for many, who have attempted the LSR but just cant quite get it, To them So long SORE LOOSERS!!!!!
 
Myself
the Speed 12 is not a Cerbera, despite it having Cerbera actually written on it in the game it isn't the Cerbera 12
My bad, I got that the wrong way around. I had the versions the wrong way round, sorry. The rest of your post, Rac3rX, is very nearly as offensive and childish as what you used to post here, and any more crap I might have to notify the moderators yet again of your inability to be polite and civil.

Ozmac
DE: you've done a fantastic job modding this thread - over 860 posts and more and still lots of smiles all-round. Well done. Tough job. You ought to be a mod here. But I think something isn't quite right with the top speeds posted, and if you check around at other GT sites with properly run databases, these crappy looking replays and other bits posted in this thread are not worth a cracker in the long run. Too much room for fudging to be guaranteed. Until someone independent gets the settings, there's a major question mark over all the best speeds - and that goes for the race cars as well as the road cars. (I reckon the fast Lotus cars get airborne around 312 onwards).

DE: the only proper replays are on memory cards, etc that can be looked at in detail, a couple of times over, from every angle. The wanky replays shown here by Rac3rx aren't good enough to judge by

First of all, thanks very much! (Say as much to an admin if you like :p) You need to keep in mind that this is unofficial, but I am trying to make it as correct as is possible. I do agree that some videos are acceptable and some are not, the only video from Rac3r that I've been happy with is the one that shows the wheels on the ground in photomode, but I may start asking for settings soon. That would mean I'd have to step down from my 300mph speeds and be a neutral moderator, which would be hard but I could possibly do it. A lot of videos have been slightly doubtful and some have been downright defective, but we'll see how things go in the future. You too will be missed my friend.

Rac3rX
The reason I do cuts, is because the first straigh is long and boring, & it just doesnt matter (Because it doesnt make a Diference)
It doesn't matter!?! You go and start the run at the 1500m mark and see if you get the same speed, it matters a lot.

Actually, reading your whole post I think it should be reported.

DE
 
Dark Elite
My bad, I got that the wrong way around. I had the versions the wrong way round, sorry. The rest of your post, Rac3rX, is very nearly as offensive and childish as what you used to post here, and any more crap I might have to notify the moderators yet again of your inability to be polite and civil.

Ive had enough on that Topic, as you dont even know the points your arguing. And if you were to switch the versions arround your statement makes EVEN LESS Sense!

Unless your admitting you confused the Cerbera Speed 12 with the Speed 12 (As I originally pointed out), and removed its "Race Car" Classification. That would make you a Man. Somehow I DONT think thats the case though, but that Ill leave for you to say.

Dark Elite
It doesn't matter!?! You go and start the run at the 1500m mark and see if you get the same speed, it matters a lot.

Actually, reading your whole post I think it should be reported.

DE

"Actually, reading your whole post I think it should be reported."

Why? Do you get pissed off when your shown to be completly wrong about something and you dont have the Balls to admit it? When someone shows you your wrong yet you still argue without making sense, its not them who has a problem its YOU!!!!! You dont have 1 single point in the Cerbera argument NOT ONE!!! Every point you attempt to make is shown to be wrong!!!!



As for the Cuts, NO IT DOESNT MATTER, Because of THE TIME COUNTER in the REPLAY. Figure that out!!!

If I were to launch from a diferent point on the track , I would have to drive to that point to start wouldnt I? (This will add ALOT of seconds to the counter That would be noticeable to anybody with a half brain, and 2 min to run the track with the same car (If I get a Faster speed, with a Longer end time, then you have something to say, BUT if its a shorter end time with a Faster Speed AS IT IS, then IT DOESNT MATTER!!!!! On top of that Ive Posted MULTIPLE Replays, most with a replay with Cuts, and a straight replay also, Its not my fault if your too lazy to download the file to watch the full replays with no cuts, and any vid you want thats posted only with vid that has cuts I will do one without cuts for it apon request at any time.

BUT reguardless, the Vid you youreself say is the best display of the Run (The one with all the zoom ins on the wheels) and the best proof submited yet to qualify a time, what does it matter if all the vids comming to this point you are unsure of when the video with the FASTEST speed is the video you are the Most sure of?

2+2=4 EVERY TIME!!!!

Who would of thought I would be so fast its unbelevable, Whoohoo!

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol!!!!!
 
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