Throttle control with a DS3?

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Its much to difficult with the damn right analog stick. Same thing with the X button.
Anyone have any tips on how to make half-throttling more easier for DS3 user?
Is there any special controllers or would it be a good idea to change button commands? (L2 R2)
 
I'd think L2 R2 would be more precise so I guess you could try that. Only other controller I can think of is a wheel which is the optimum solution.
 
Practice.

Seriously, practice is the key to throttle control on a DS3. I use x for acceleration and find throttle control fairly easy, why? Because I've had over a year and a half's practice within GT5.
 
R2 is best for me but the 360 controller triggers are SO much better because they weren't an afterthought. I really hope they have a rethink of the PS controller for the next console because the current one is so uncomfortable if you haven't got tiny hands.
 
Yes I use R2 to accelerate. Not perfect but better vs X button. Maybe the stick is better but I hate it for GT5.
 
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Its much to difficult with the damn right analog stick. Same thing with the X button.
Anyone have any tips on how to make half-throttling more easier for DS3 user?
Is there any special controllers or would it be a good idea to change button commands? (L2 R2)
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I love to have analogic throttle control, it's (for me) more comfortable if I steer with right thumb and use the left one to throttle/brake.
 
SimonK
R2 is best for me but the 360 controller triggers are SO much better because they weren't an afterthought. I really hope they have a rethink of the PS controller for the next console because the current one is so uncomfortable if you haven't got tiny hands.
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I have huge hands and I find the DS3 extremely comfortable.
 
I use the buttons, so it's either on or off. There's some variance with how far the button's pushed down, (X, O, etc.) but I rarely bother.
 
SimonK
the current one is so uncomfortable if you haven't got tiny hands.
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Speak for yourself, my hands are so big that my fingers can't type properly on my android phone, yet I have absolutely no comfort issues with the Dualshock 3
 
Strange, maybe it's because I got used to the 360 controller for 3 years but it physically hurt me trying to use the DS3 again when I first got a PS3 in 2010 for GT5. I still find it uncomfortable because it's so small and the large arch of the part you hold. 360 controller fits in my hand perfectly. The analog stick placement is also much better.
 
Somehow when I played with a DS3 I managed it with the X button. Now I have a wheel and would never go back.
 
JBanton
Practice.

Seriously, practice is the key to throttle control on a DS3. I use x for acceleration and find throttle control fairly easy, why? Because I've had over a year and a half's practice within GT5.
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Same, but I've been using the default controls since GT1.,
 
The DS3/Sixaxis is probably the most comfortable controller I've ever used, and the triggers work great. The 360 controller feels like one of my hands must be on sideways, and the triggers drill holes through my fingers(but that's the original 360 controller, I never used any other). To each their own, I guess.

But the only sure-fire solution for throttle control is to precisely learn the button you use, or to get a wheel. The problem comes from GT5's controller interface, not the controller itself. Most of your range of control is in the 0-50% throttle range, then it becomes incredibly sensitive above that, no idea why.

Some say the sticks are better, but I didn't find a noticeable difference between the stick and trigger. Not sure about the face buttons because I can't use them very well, you need a MUCH MUCH lighter touch on them than with the old PS2 controller.
 
If you haven't got them already, I would recommend going out and buying some attachable triggers for the L2 and R2 buttons, they bend in the other direction like the 360's two trigger buttons but are much chunkier. They really help to modulate the accelerator and brakes better, although GT5's sensitivity is way out of whack in my opinion.

The brakes work perfectly as the L2 button, the amount of pressure you apply translates exactly and equally to the brake peddle - in other words, if you hold down the button by 25%, you brake by 25%, if you hold down the button at 50%, you brake by 50% and so. With the Accelerator, I find the sensitivity jumps up and down. There's too much dead zone in the first 25%, 50% isn't quite 50% acceleration, and then the sensitivity jumps up sharply after 50% pressure on the R2 button. If you are half throttling perfectly and put on the tiniest amount of pressure, the on screen graph on the accelerator jumps up way too far for the amount you're pressing, and then flickers up and down if you try and correct it. At least that's what I find anyway.

Quite often, it's one of the only things that hinder my performance, sometimes when I need to hold half throttle through a long corner, I find I'm either accelerating just not quite enough and lose a little time, then start applying slightly too much acceleration trying to hit the perfect amount of pressure on the button. If the pressure worked the same as the brake peddle, I would have no problems at all.

Edit: Seems the person above me has exactly the same problem. It is GT5's interface and response, not the controller itself.
 
I have no problem using brake or throttle control with the X/square button...
 
Learned default mapping in GT1, never looked back. Yes, some days I wonder if my FGT could come out of a corner .001 better if I could feather the throttle, but it never cost me a race, so....aint broke, not fixin it.
 
gthead01
Learned default mapping in GT1, never looked back. Yes, some days I wonder if my FGT could come out of a corner .001 better if I could feather the throttle, but it never cost me a race, so....aint broke, not fixin it.
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Strange way of approaching things in life.
 
I use R1 to accelerate and R2 for braking. I have been doing this since GT2. I can feather the throttle with R1 and braking works the same. I hate the joysticks altogether. I use the D-Pad to steer and L1 and L2 to shift. Works great for me. Like with all things practice makes perfect. Hope this helps or at least contributes.
 
I use my X and square buttons. Since gt2. I have it down so well. It's all practice. I can to very precise throttling (not as good as pedals). It just takes practice. My only problem is that I have to get a new controller every 4-6 months cause I wear out the buttons and they become inaccurate and less precise for the throttling I want. Only had gt5 for 2 months and I have 98% completion, and my controller is wrecked
 
Why strange? I've tried other mapping, didn't suit me, and didn't improve my times after practicing. Stick with what works. It suits my tunes, and doesn't cost me the race. It got me through the first 4 GT's, and is not hindering this one. I apply continuous improvement and out-of-the-box thinking to my professional life, and it has served me well. But my GT life is bountiful with standard settings. Its my comfort zone.
 
McClarenDesign
Same, but I've been using the default controls since GT1.,
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I guess we're in the same boat if games other than GT5 count; I've been using the classic x for acceleration and square for braking for over 10 years now :)

I guess whatever a player is most comfortable with will serve them the best.
 
I think the sticks are the best for controlling throttle and braking. Mind you, I've been using them since GT3, about 9 years ago.
 
RedPartyhat
Its much to difficult with the damn right analog stick. Same thing with the X button.
Anyone have any tips on how to make half-throttling more easier for DS3 user?
Is there any special controllers or would it be a good idea to change button commands? (L2 R2)
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This is mainly Polyphony Digital's fault, for living in 1994. You see, once upon a time (NES/SNES) you just had a D-pad and some face buttons to mash. Eventually we gained triggers and analog sticks. While developers and players increasingly became aware of the brilliance of using the triggers as throttle and brake pedals, PD were still stuck in 1994, completely oblivious to the evolution of the industry around them. They really should have figured out that L2/R2 were the most logical and natural way to go... but they didn't. It should have been the default means for brake and throttle for all GT games of the past decade or more, but as near as I can tell it was not. This isn't really "shame on you" for being unaware that everyone else had discovered fire and invented the wheel, but rather is "shame on PD" for freezing at night and continuing to drag stuff through the dirt.

"But I prefer the analog stick method!" someone says? Well, good for you. For most players it feels unnatural and even if that works for you it should still come standard for all racing games to use L2/R2 for brake and throttle. No game should ever map them to face buttons by default.
 
I don't use a DS3 for GT, but after years of GTA and the like, I probably would have difficulty if it were anything but L2 and R2. I even believe the primary reason analog triggers were invented was to control acceleration and braking in driving games. Although, I'm sure some would say they should be the face buttons because they're used to those on the PS2 (my GTA 3/Vice City/San Andreas experience was all on the Xbox, where the triggers were gas/brake).

Unfortunately, the analog triggers on the PS3 controller were not designed very well for usability. I have a feeling that Sony designed them with looks in mind, to match the curvature of the L2 and R2 buttons on the DS/DS2 controllers. A pair of trigger extensions makes them much better.

But I don't understand the comment that they should have been the defaults for the last decade. We didn't have analog triggers until the PS3, so why should it have been L2/R2 on the PS2? Unless you mean that Sony should have made L2 and R2 analog on the PS2 controller, of course.
 
From GT1, I used the buttons on the controller up until GT3 (or GT4?) when I became conscious of how little control they offered. From that point, I taught myself to use the sticks in the standard format, and I liked how it matched the old-style remote control car controls. Everything seemed fine, and I thought I had good--but not great--throttle control.

Four days ago, I began using a wheel. My times have come down quickly and now I can appreciate how much throttle (steering and brake) control I was missing out on, and of course, I'm still getting used to it.
 
Hi, I'm new to the forum, PS3, and GT5. I'm using a dualshock3 controller and the stick for acceleration and braking. I noticed a controller sensitivity setting in-game. I'm currently using -1 but I'm trying to get more sensitive braking. Will changing this value make a difference? Thanks.
 
The sensitivity setting adjusts the steering sensitivity. No effect on braking. If you want more sensitive brakes, adjust the brake bias on your car to a higher level.
 
Try the braking bias, as Shoe suggested. Though, you might want to consider looking at the LSD if you've tuned your car 👍.
 

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