Throttle control with a DS3?

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Purchase a set of these for about $12 on Amazon.

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They extend the stick providing a longer range of motion for throttle, braking and steering. They are fantastic. I am nearly as fast with the DS3 as with my wheel.
 
I use left analog for steering, X and Square for gas/brakes, L1/R1 for gear changes, and R2 to look back so I don't have to let go of gas/breaks/steering.

After reading a few comments, I'm thinking of abandoning X and Square for gas and brake and moving back to L2/R2 for brake/gas while having the right analog stick to change gears. Or possibly X and Square for gear changes. I'm not sure what to do. I play GT5, MCLA, and GTA IV all the time and I think it's time I adapt to use one specific set of controls for all games so I can play them better.
 
Motor City Hami
Purchase a set of these for about $12 on Amazon.

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They extend the stick providing a longer range of motion for throttle, braking and steering. They are fantastic. I am nearly as fast with the DS3 as with my wheel.
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Well I thought these were for First Person Shooter games. Anyways I do use X for accelerator when I'm using my controller and I can have half throttle its all about practice. You just have to get use to not pressing it too hard.
 
X and square all the way. Been doing it since all racing games on PS1.

Sensitivity entered on PS2 for the buttons and so now its easy to regulate the pressure from my thumb on the buttons. No where near as good as a wheel but much quicker reactions that R2/L2 or analogue.
 
Best solution is to use DS2 ( PS2 ) stick, buy USB adapter, and you can even use the face buttons accurately. I am using one, and I can run high BB using the face buttons without ABS in GT5, and I also can modulate the gas accurately with the face buttons. DS3 can't beat DS2 button travel and response, I need to press almost 3 times harder than DS3 on my DS2 to get full 100% brake or gas.

Here's a tip : Assign L2 for brake, while using face buttons for brake and gas, this way you can left foot brake mid corner, or when you apply too much throttle.

Watch my No ABS videos linked on my sig to see how I use DS2 stick face buttons to brake and gas accurately :D
 
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Ridox2JZGTE
Best solution is to use DS2 ( PS2 ) stick, buy USB adapter, and you can even use the face buttons accurately. I am using one, and I can run high BB using the face buttons without ABS in GT5, and I also can modulate the gas accurately with the face buttons. DS3 can't beat DS2 button travel and response, I need to press almost 3 times harder than DS3 on my DS2 to get full 100% brake or gas.

Here's a tip : Assign L2 for brake, while using face buttons for brake and gas, this way you can left foot brake mid corner, or when you apply too much throttle.

Watch my No ABS videos linked on my sig to see how I use DS2 stick face buttons to brake and gas accurately :D
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This is only useful if you have a DS2 lying around and a adaptor. There is no point buying another DS2 Controller and a adaptor just because you need a precise throttle and braking sensitivity but if you really need it that badly then try it ::)
 
^ True if money is a concern, but if there's an old DS2 stick lying around, why not use it. Most PS3 owner used to have PS2 one time in the past, so the chances are pretty good, anyway DS2 stick is cheap now and the USB adapter should be less than $10, I am using USB adapter with 2 modes, PC and PS3, so I can use DS2 for PC gaming as well.
 
TwistyDrift
This is only useful if you have a DS2 lying around and a adaptor. There is no point buying another DS2 Controller and a adaptor just because you need a precise throttle and braking sensitivity but if you really need it that badly then try it ::)
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Not trying to pick on you or anything but this contradicts itself. If there was no advantage to the DS2 controller there would be no point in buying one. But if you "need a more precise throttle and braking sensitivity" with the face buttons on the controller, then there is a point to getting a DS2(which hopefully you can pick up for dirt cheap if you don't have a friend who can give you one).

I havent tried it with GT5, but I used them enough to know that there is no doubt that the pressure sensitivity on all of the buttons is miles better than with the DS3. I'm sure it would help for those who have trouble adjusting to sticks or triggers.
 
IceMan PJN
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"But I prefer the analog stick method!" someone says? Well, good for you. For most players it feels unnatural and even if that works for you it should still come standard for all racing games to use L2/R2 for brake and throttle. No game should ever map them to face buttons by default.
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That's an interesting generalization which seems to be very much fuled to almost the limit by your personal preference. Just a quick scan of any topic that mentions using a DS3 and the preferences of those who reply actually seem to lean the other way.

The fact is that there is more than one way that feels right for different players and PD should optimize all of them.
 
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Completely my opinion, but I feel if GT is worth enough of your time to play consistently, be a member of an (awesome) forum, etc. it's worth it to spend a little bit on a wheel.

Ive played the GT games exclusively with a PS controller since GT2 until 2 days ago when I got a G27. Now I wonder what game I spent so many years playing....

In short wheel is the only way to go, no matter how good you get with the controller
 
DegenThought
In short wheel is the only way to go, no matter how good you get with the controller
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But what if people don't want to pay $300 for a round piece of plastic when they can play a game just fine on their $300 piece of plastic with a controller?
 
Haha obviously that's fine, people can play the game however they choose. I'm just saying if you play a lot, I think the added fun and realism value of the wheel are worth the money.

Side note: a $300 wheel isn't a round piece of plastic, they're actually quite nicely built, leather and steel :P
 
DegenThought
Haha obviously that's fine, people can play the game however they choose. I'm just saying if you play a lot, I think the added fun and realism value of the wheel are worth the money.

Side note: a $300 wheel isn't a round piece of plastic, they're actually quite nicely built, leather and steel :P
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Yeah, they aren't just a round piece of plastic :) They are very sturdy and one of the best wheel I have used and owned so far.
 
RedPartyhat
Its much to difficult with the damn right analog stick. Same thing with the X button.
Anyone have any tips on how to make half-throttling more easier for DS3 user?
Is there any special controllers or would it be a good idea to change button commands? (L2 R2)
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I remember seeing a special "racing controller" built by HKS. Here's a picture of it but I don't know where you can buy it from:


SimonK
R2 is best for me but the 360 controller triggers are SO much better because they weren't an afterthought. I really hope they have a rethink of the PS controller for the next console because the current one is so uncomfortable if you haven't got tiny hands.
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It's not even just the triggers that are better on the 360 controller; in my opinion the controller as a whole feels much better ergonomic-wise than the PS3 controller.
 
Well if you use the analog-stick it's better that just X but if you have enough control you can use the X button fine with just feathering it. R2 and L2 are good but for nostalgia regions I use X and the sticks depending on the track but that's all you got really
 
I used to be a wheel user but it died and went to the big wheel party in the sky in the early days of GT4 since then I've used the DS/DS3 and always used the sticks for steering, accelerator and brake but I could never get the feel for throttle modulation. Over the last 8 months I switched to L2/R2 for accelerator and brake and I can say that I get a lot more feeling but it's still not brilliant.

I tried the trigger extenders as lewis_hamilton and others have suggested and found that they made the controller awkward for me. They pushed the triggers too far forward but they are good and, for some folks they would really help.

There are a couple of guys that have overcome the issues with the DS3 but on the whole I agree with Lewis_hamilton in that PD's implementation of the device controller in GT5 does not provide smooth linear control for braking or acceleration using the triggers or the sticks.

Guess I should buy another wheel and pedal set *sigh* :lol:
 
Does anyone have a good L2/R2 brake/gas mapping for they'd like to share? I'd be curious to hear how you have it all mapped out.
 
I use a custom controller set up with R2 as throttle & L2 as brake. PS3 triggers kinda suck, so I also bought trigger clips (like $5 at any game shop) that snap on and make it much easier to feather the throttle.

I still use the standard buttons for throttle & break sometimes, but prefer using the triggers when racing without traction control or big HP RWD cars.
 
JJstarr
Does anyone have a good L2/R2 brake/gas mapping for they'd like to share? I'd be curious to hear how you have it all mapped out.
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Not sure it's good but my mapping (main bits)

L2:brake
R2: Accelerator
L1: Change view
R1: Lights
L Stick: Steering
R Stick: Brake/Accelerator (yes I have it mapped twice, I still use the stick sometimes)
Circle: Gear Up
Cross: Gear down
Square: Handbrake
Triangle......ummmmm ???
L3: RA menu
Dpad: RA functions
R3: Wipers

Sorry can't remember what I have on the triangle can't be important as I definitely don't use it :)
 
DegenThought
Completely my opinion, but I feel if GT is worth enough of your time to play consistently, be a member of an (awesome) forum, etc. it's worth it to spend a little bit on a wheel.

Ive played the GT games exclusively with a PS controller since GT2 until 2 days ago when I got a G27. Now I wonder what game I spent so many years playing....

In short wheel is the only way to go, no matter how good you get with the controller
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Yeah, buy a wheel. Then build a mount. Upgrade the pedals. Incorporate a seat.

Find space for all of the above.

Let's not mention significant other's input/judgment.

You get the idea. It's a project. One which always seems to get shelved for me.
 
doodlemonoply
Reverse? That seems pretty important to me :p
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Is that your secret for blazing the time trials with a DS3?....you drive backwards :lol: :lol:

Thanks Doodle, yeah, it's reverse 👍
 
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Lewis_Hamilton_
With the Accelerator, I find the sensitivity jumps up and down. There's too much dead zone in the first 25%, 50% isn't quite 50% acceleration, and then the sensitivity jumps up sharply after 50% pressure on the R2 button. If you are half throttling perfectly and put on the tiniest amount of pressure, the on screen graph on the accelerator jumps up way too far for the amount you're pressing, and then flickers up and down if you try and correct it. At least that's what I find anyway.
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Yeah I had that same problem, I switched to using the right analogue stick and the sensitivity still isn't uniform but it's better than the R2 button. I mapped shift down and shift up to L2 and R2 respectively and I find it more intuitive now. I also mapped out my controls so that I press L3 for the RA Menu and I use the D-Pad to adjust everything. It works pretty well for me, I'd recommend to anyone else using a DS3 to give it a try. :)
 
Use standard DS3 settings... tap tap tap tap tap....tap tap. So a completely artificial gas pedal technique, mind you doesn't work too well for FGT, F1 and X201* cars but does well for even LMP.
 

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