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Gomario JSP
Oef...., first session was alot harder than i thought it would be, i used @Mistah_MCA tune for my start base, but for my use with DS4 it's quite difficult to handle, so i'm playing abit with it, but have a hard time to get the apexes on turn 3 and 4 and exitspeed 4 is key.
So this one is going to take alot of work and finding the right tune for me,
@Blayney i'm going to take a look on your's when i get home!

Thanks guy's for efford here, we all appriciate it!
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I found the same with Praiano's tune at first, but I increased the rear ARB by two and reduced the front by 1, reduced front camber very slightly, and increased rear natural frequency very slightly and it became much more manageable.

From my experience, rear ARB and diff settings have the most effect on being able to hit corners at full throttle and exit out of them with power!
 
Gomario JSP
Oef...., first session was alot harder than i thought it would be, i used @Mistah_MCA tune for my start base, but for my use with DS4 it's quite difficult to handle, so i'm playing abit with it, but have a hard time to get the apexes on turn 3 and 4 and exitspeed 4 is key.
So this one is going to take alot of work and finding the right tune for me,
@Blayney i'm going to take a look on your's when i get home!

Thanks guy's for efford here, we all appriciate it!
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I used Praiano's tune as well. Got slightly faster by pushing the ballast a bit more to the back and increasing rear downforce to the max. But maybe it was just coincidence with me getting better over time of practice.

And, not to forget: CA on strong. I haven't used it for months and months now in any car, but here I found it necessary to get anything going. I probably wouldn't have completed a single competitive lap without it... 😆
 
snc
Am I missing something here or this is one of toughest tt ? :d I probably will be fine with silver this time :d
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TumeK5
Not at all. I set a 1:29.3 quite early, in my first 100km. I hadn't touched the settings much, so fine-tuning the car and the lap should get me an easy sub 1:29.
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If like me, @snc you prefer objective answers, then yes, so far it is proving to be one of the most difficult TTs. I got into current gold with a 1:28.8 within 50miles or so (thank you @Mistah_MCA for your tune and circuit guide :cheers: ), but an individual's results is irrelevant in isolation; better to look at the whole dataset.

So here is the data below. Only around a quarter the usual percentage of drivers in gold; more than double the usual percentage of drivers outside of the medals.

I wonder how much of it is because drivers somewhat new to the game do not know that they can tune the car, or do not know how to? It will be interesting to see the final medal distribution, but I bet gold proportion will go up from its current low level.

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Blimey, just scraped into bronze today, barely with a 1:35.25x...... and only managed that because I used Praiano's tune as well. My first tries yesterday were with the bog standard car from the garage - I overlooked that you could tune and my lap times were - well, even more embarrassing than usual! 😂

Still can't get how to put the gears the same as the tune - I adjust final then the individual gears but the speeds are very different to the tune. Will keep plugging away or my bronze will be gone!
 
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Leon Kowalski
I used Praiano's tune as well. Got slightly faster by pushing the ballast a bit more to the back and increasing rear downforce to the max. But maybe it was just coincidence with me getting better over time of practice.

And, not to forget: CA on strong. I haven't used it for months and months now in any car, but here I found it necessary to get anything going. I probably wouldn't have completed a single competitive lap without it... 😆
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Arrgh, big mistake! I hang my head in shame! Actually, I got my fastest laps in @Mistah_MCA 's tune. I have two Mustangs with the two different tunings installed and mixed that up...😬 Sorry.

The rest of what I wrote is correct, though, only referring to MMs tune. I'll try praiano's tonight.
 
Gomario JSP
Oef...., first session was alot harder than i thought it would be, i used @Mistah_MCA tune for my start base, but for my use with DS4 it's quite difficult to handle, so i'm playing abit with it
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I am using his tune too, I don't know how the DS4 impacts the ability to drive this car, but I've had no issues on DS5 and I am not a fine driver. I've just set the ballast a bit forward, to make the car less tail happy as I've read some comments of that order, but I did not try with the original setting proposed by Mistah so in fact I am not even sure it was necessary.
 
MidnightRun85
I found the same with Praiano's tune at first, but I increased the rear ARB by two and reduced the front by 1, reduced front camber very slightly, and increased rear natural frequency very slightly and it became much more manageable.

From my experience, rear ARB and diff settings have the most effect on being able to hit corners at full throttle and exit out of them with power!
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I will set up a second GT with Praiano's tune, very curious how different the car behaves with different tunes :-)
Thanks for the tips!
Leon Kowalski
I used Praiano's tune as well. Got slightly faster by pushing the ballast a bit more to the back and increasing rear downforce to the max. But maybe it was just coincidence with me getting better over time of practice.

And, not to forget: CA on strong. I haven't used it for months and months now in any car, but here I found it necessary to get anything going. I probably wouldn't have completed a single competitive lap without it... 😆
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I started with CS strong also, but was slightly faster in the end with CS on weak, but only did 29.9 on the first session this morning so way of gold, but i like Roadcars, so i'm positive over time i will improve enough for solid gold :)
CS off isn't for me for now, then i'm drifting corner to corner haha
Lomic
I am using his tune too, I don't know how the DS4 impacts the ability to drive this car, but I've had no issues on DS5 and I am not a fine driver. I've just set the ballast a bit forward, to make the car less tail happy as I've read some comments of that order, but I did not try with the original setting proposed by Mistah so in fact I am not even sure it was necessary.
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Normally i'm quite fast in the first session, most of the time i'm allready in the gold, so this one suites me a bit less, but i notice often that a wheel setup isn't always good for Pad users, altho everybody has a different driving style, and different people have different time to spend to get better, i'm sure if i ran it for 3 hours straight i'll probl. have more feeling with his tune and say it is fine :)
 
Yeah, I also used the Praiano suspension and diff tune, added some weight, max out the DF on both ends, the car is very easy to drive and very predictable, I just need to hook up THE lap and I'm sure the 27s are possible. I will share the final tune later if someone wants to try it out.
 
Interestingly, the last corner was the trickiest for me, so easy to lose like 3 tenths if you miss the perfect braking point by just a couple of meters, and gain 3 tenths down the straight if you nail the corner perfectly :)

Can't wait to get home from work and give this another go :)
 
sdi_03
Soooo, slight improvement today, 1:27.772 P20 atm. :cheers:

Best optimum was .5 or something like that, so top 10 seems possible. :)

The last sector of this track is just soooo good, love it. Driving down from the corkscrew, those corners flow so well.
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That was some 👽 time...
I loved your tune on Nordschleife ( even if i only reached silver) it fits my driving or better said steering with motion sensor, so if you want to share this time i would appreciate it.
 
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zdravkelja
It is a short track, the record can't go down much lower.
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i hate to say it... but inevitably somebody near the top will do a successsful power-slide somewhere and cut like .3 seconds off their lap.

not me, though! ive not gotten within .3 seconds of my top time, which was done during my first session, which i shut off figuring someone would figure out how to tune this thing. i had another .2 on my optimal lap and probably could've gotten into the low 28s. oops. ive jangled the gear ratios up so much trying to hit certain curves on 3rd or 4th gear and i'm pretty far removed from my first set-up.

praiano's tune has been the most helpful for me, i see people doing gold on tunes that i can't possibly tame. which is fun to think about - people really are choosing their own adventure here, and theres nothing exploity happening at the top (yet). some people are trying to get the car to drive like a race car, others (me) are just figuring out how to shove this thing around.
 
Here's my tune.
-Wide body
-20" wheels wide/wide
-all weight reductions and rigidity added
-LOW charger (not sure if it makes difference what to choose)
-full lsd
-ballast
-brake balance controller
-Programmable ECU
-Power restrictor
-carbon brakes and racing pads
-racing silencer
-Etc, can seen on pics what I used and how to setup ECU and power restrictor to get 443hp
-CSA strong! helps to tame this beast, would say its possible to drive with it off, but its easyer to get good lap it on

Transmission, set final, set auto 300kmh, set individual gears. I think that I used 3.400final so your individual gear ratios might be slightly different than mine.

And last, on last corner, try to stay on 3rd gear when going on the throttle. If you carry enough speed, car will not bog down.




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Yeah this is going as expected. Best so far a low 31 and I have maybe half a second in me if i get it all perfect. My big issue is settings changes seem to do absolutely NOTHING. I move the ballast from front to back, i feel nothing, I CRANK the LSD to try and control the wheelspin, i feel nothing. I am just not feeling anything at all with set up changes.

I cannot control the wheelspin and TC1 is very intrusive, i can't see how i get gold here.
 
Possibly being a moany git here, but can't help but think my target time should be 103% of whoever has the fastest lap without the car doing half the steering for them or any other assists helping out. But alas 1:29.049 atm and struggling to go much quicker on a controller. The WR is certain to come down a bit yet though.
 
NevilleNobody
Yeah this is going as expected. Best so far a low 31 and I have maybe half a second in me if i get it all perfect. My big issue is settings changes seem to do absolutely NOTHING. I move the ballast from front to back, i feel nothing, I CRANK the LSD to try and control the wheelspin, i feel nothing. I am just not feeling anything at all with set up changes.

I cannot control the wheelspin and TC1 is very intrusive, i can't see how i get gold here.
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Without having done a single lap in current TT yet, but used to the road cars in GT7. I'd say maybe TCS 1 is the issue. In general with this type of combo and how GT7 is with powerful road cars and how much TCS slows them down, you need to figure out how to avoid wheelspinning with TCS 0 and go quick.

You just need very good throttle control for this to work, and according to a couple track guides with all the torque available on the Mustang, shortshifting does not hurt you that much. Going fast with TCS on 1 will be a big challenge I think 🤔
 
samppa_944
I'd say maybe TCS 1 is the issue.
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Yeah, I can't even imagine doing a great lap with TCS 1, you just need this car to slide a bit and control the anges and corner exits with the throttle. You can tune it, if it spins too much in second or third, adjust the gear ratios, set 1st to go to around 120, second to 160 and so on, so you have better control and a little less spin. Or just go up a gear, for example, in the first corner I go down do 1st for rotation but the moment I rotate the car properly, I mash the throttle in 3rd and just go.
 
Jeje6410
If you want you can try my tune for this Time Trial :
Ford Mustang GT '15 with TC at 1 or 0
All comments are welcome.
Good drive and enjoy :cheers:
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Thanks for sharing. A question (for you and anyone else who knows about tuning): I notice you opted for the medium rear wing (as did @Mistah_MCA in his tune) and then set the rear downforce to maximum. Since that appears to mean more downforce = A Good Thing, why not go for the bigger rear wing that is available? Or does the bigger wing introduce some other problem?

Thanks.
 
samppa_944
Without having done a single lap in current TT yet, but used to the road cars in GT7. I'd say maybe TCS 1 is the issue. In general with this type of combo and how GT7 is with powerful road cars and how much TCS slows them down, you need to figure out how to avoid wheelspinning with TCS 0 and go quick.

You just need very good throttle control for this to work, and according to a couple track guides with all the torque available on the Mustang, shortshifting does not hurt you that much. Going fast with TCS on 1 will be a big challenge I think 🤔
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Yah I might give it a go on the wheel, see how it goes.
 
This current online time trial reminds me of the one with the NSX, which I didn't enter. If I recall right, apparently I didn't need to worry about winning the NSX Concept-GT engine in the future, because that engine is turbocharged by default, and I guess there was a regulation in that time trial preventing a turbo from being installed? Was that the case? Or was it more so that, even with a power restrictor and no other parts equipped, you couldn't get the power low enough with the swapped engine insofar that the car would be within regulations? In either case, maybe I should hold off on installing future engines that I win, unless they become truly necessary/beneficial.

Anyway, for this current one with the Mustang, I bought and installed the best parts I could get, then uninstalled the racing intercooler so I could get the exact maximum HP that was permitted, between playing with the full-customize computer and the power restrictor. And although I bought all the weight reduction stages, I was still able to increase the ballast insofar that I was able to reach the minimum weight. I then moved the ballast all the way to the back so that the weight distribution is closer to being even, though I think it got to 51:49 in the menu. Now, I haven't actually hit the track yet, but I'm thinking of testing things with the default settings, then mostly tinkering wth the downforce and gear ratios, since I feel most comfortable fiddling with those. I'd imagine that higher downforce settings would be better for this course, too.
 
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Ok, now that the CSA is becoming hot topic, had to go back to track

New record CSA OFF!!! :lol:

1:27.766.

So, like I said, CSA makes you more consistent, it's little bit faster for sure. Even if I managed to beat my previous time with out it.
But I would say, it's .2 or .3s faster in this combo.
 

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