Time Trial Discussion
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- Danger_Dan986
Good lap bro 👏🏼 👏🏼 I will probably give this one a miss until at least the weekend so you are safe till then 😁😁Gave the Scirocco a go around Laguna Seca last night. This combo feels quite challenging although I'm not sure why that is. I think the Claymores on the inside of the corners are not helping. Especially struggling with getting the braking zone right for the Cork Screw as well as the left hander before the Cork Screw, the exit of the Cork Screw and the following left hander. That whole sector is easily my weakest point of the track.
Currently sitting at a 1:28.373 which places me 533rd currently, and 1 millisecond ahead of @Dolph Drago and @Dan_TesI'm sure that won't last very long and you will both be a couple of tenths up the road.
May come back to this one again depending on what the next trial is. From last night's session it doesn't feel like I have much left in me. Couldn't even come close to matching that lap in my subsequent laps and optimum was only a tenth improvement.
Back at Lago… the fight continues, I am so so close to a 2:14.xxx. Alas I don’t have long before I go away this evening so it’s my last chance, best time today was 1,000th of a second slower than my PB, I feel your pain @Ed_Night (also, I’m coming for you 😈)
Oh and thank you so much @Metalgear9493 for letting me chase your shadow 😘
To be continued…
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- half_sourly
In doing some laps to get a recording, I managed to beat my time, albeit by only 0.06 seconds. Still here is a recording and I'd be glad to hear anyone's thoughts - I know I messed up the second last corner. Going out of T5 in 4th just didn't do it for me; it always felt slower and on a few comparisons, it was. That could of course just be general variance, but 3rd just felt better, even though it risks understeer more.Thanks for the thoughts. I'll try the T5 in 4th idea. In T10 I do what you do - 4th-3rd-4th. If I remember tonight I'll record my best lap and put it on here. I know sector 1 is an issue, because although I've done a few .4xx, I'm regularly very high .5xx or worse.
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Looks quite smooth indeed, your S1 is very descent @23.547 ( I had 468 ).... so that is not it, S2 @1:02.731 ( I'm at 494) .237 here and by the looks of it I realy do think a part of it is in T5, because your T6 looks good and you seem to have a good corckscrew ...I am def. earlier on throttle on T5.. but if 4th doesn't work you gotta work around it!
But there is also some time to find in S3 cause we have .385 difference on the line.
Last corner seems very smooth, nicely trailbraking into it, we can eliminate that one for sure, that leaves T9 and T10
If i take a look at the apex of T9 i'm quite far ahead , so there is alot to win on this one i think!
T9 1:06.217 - 1:05.850
T10 1:12.400 - 1:12.085
Entry corckscrew 57.933 - 57.750
and the exit of the corckscrew was .237 in difference, so got to be T6-T9!! right?
Sorry for my NONE @Barareklam supadupavideocomparrison
Other possibility is loading my ghost and don't reset it each sector?, but i think most of it lies in T9
*edit... mmm... those screenshot are not the best quality
So times added under screenshot lol
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330_D
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I find it crazy that we can have such close times and drive this car so very differently. I don't think we have a single shift point in common on the whole track.
I don't have advice other than just like the Civic at Maggiore, this thing turns in so much better when you breathe on the brakes while apexing. At least for me. Very very light braking even on throttle settles this car and acts like TCS on exit. Again, you are faster than I am so this may not mean a thing for you.
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- RCC_Joey
Pretty tidy lap and great time as well. Take my information with two pinches of salt as my time is nearly identical so I could be wrong.
T1 I think you can be tighter and full throttle it earlier.
T2 Is ok, though sometimes exiting in 4th made me faster but 3rd is also okay, but requires more throttle control.
T3 I don't downshift to 3rd as I found to be losing some time that way, instead I lift a bit earlier than the braking point , just dab the brake and full throttle by the sausage.
T4 I found 3rd to be faster as it is uphill , then once I'm in the kerb I short shift to fourth.
Corkscrew you can brake a tiny bit later using first to engine brake. In my best laps I felt like I would go flying into the wall , but suddenly it stopped and managed to carry a bit more speed going down. Also used fourth coming out of it as it seemed to stop some wheel spin from all the weight shifting.
Anyways thats my inputs. See if someone faster can help.
T1 I think you can be tighter and full throttle it earlier.
T2 Is ok, though sometimes exiting in 4th made me faster but 3rd is also okay, but requires more throttle control.
T3 I don't downshift to 3rd as I found to be losing some time that way, instead I lift a bit earlier than the braking point , just dab the brake and full throttle by the sausage.
T4 I found 3rd to be faster as it is uphill , then once I'm in the kerb I short shift to fourth.
Corkscrew you can brake a tiny bit later using first to engine brake. In my best laps I felt like I would go flying into the wall , but suddenly it stopped and managed to carry a bit more speed going down. Also used fourth coming out of it as it seemed to stop some wheel spin from all the weight shifting.
Anyways thats my inputs. See if someone faster can help.
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Hope this holds and there’s no last-day alien shenanigans, I’m booked for GTWS tomorrow evening so no more TT time.
Don’t recall ever having 2 golds in a row (or 3 if I give myself the missing 0.1% in the Jag). Definitely getting faster but this understeering VW is threatening the streak.
Don’t recall ever having 2 golds in a row (or 3 if I give myself the missing 0.1% in the Jag). Definitely getting faster but this understeering VW is threatening the streak.
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- half_sourly
That's excellent, thanks. A fair few things to think about.Looks quite smooth indeed, your S1 is very descent @23.547 ( I had 468 ).... so that is not it, S2 @1:02.731 ( I'm at 494) .237 here and by the looks of it I realy do think a part of it is in T5, because your T6 looks good and you seem to have a good corckscrew ...I am def. earlier on throttle on T5.. but if 4th doesn't work you gotta work around it!
But there is also some time to find in S3 cause we have .385 difference on the line.
Last corner seems very smooth, nicely trailbraking into it, we can eliminate that one for sure, that leaves T9 and T10
If i take a look at the apex of T9 i'm quite far ahead , so there is alot to win on this one i think!
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T9 1:06.217 - 1:05.850
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T10 1:12.400 - 1:12.085
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Entry corckscrew 57.933 - 57.750
and the exit of the corckscrew was .237 in difference, so got to be T6-T9!! right?
Sorry for my NONE @Barareklam supadupavideocomparrison
Other possibility is loading my ghost and don't reset it each sector?, but i think most of it lies in T9
*edit... mmm... those screenshot are not the best quality
So times added under screenshot lol
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- half_sourly
All advice is worth looking at, thanks for taking the time. I do find that there is a point between being too hot into a corner and over-braking, which I struggle to find. It is particularly evident in T1 (or whatever corner the hairpin is). I'll try the more subtle braking.
T1 - yes, missed the entry a bit and generally being on the kerb there helps, so definitely a bit of time there.
T2 - Yes, I've tried 4th as that is what Tidgney advised, but as for T5, 3rd just feels better.
T3 - To be honest, I was just larking about on this lap with different ideas and I seem to remember seeing @Metalgear9493 dropping to 3rd here when I watched his lap last week - might be wrong. Generally I stay in 4th there.
Corkscrew - that is interesting... It echoes the point I made to @330_D above about that sudden 'extra stopping' you seem to sometimes get. Will definitely try that. Again, Tidgney seemed to brake quite late there if I recall from his guide.
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Your memory has served you well as I did indeed perform a quick downshift upshift combo at turn 3.
It helped with consistency in arriving at the apex with the correct speed (around 89-90mph I was aiming for). Staying in 4th I was always messing up the timing for some reason.
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- rising_glass1
Where are you in the rankings? I'm still stuck at 2'19.494. I don't know how much further I'll get as it's getting harder and trickier to improve and you know the clock rolls on fast. I try not to look at the clock when I'm driving as it will get me distracted, and most of the time I drive clean and not go all over the place. From what I can see in your table, you're doing great, just keep practicing like I'm doing and you will maybe get in the gold zone.
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- Danger_Dan986
Hi friends!!
Well I did it, one session, one shot, one PB in the 2:14s!!
The insanity of gtplanet is that there are still quite a few forum members above me, if I finish above P16 I’ll be pumped but in reality I’m just happy with my lap ☺️ I didn’t quite have it in me to match @Ed_Night but that’s no big surprise, it was nice pretending I had a chance 😁
Hopefully home Friday to try and somehow figure out how to drive FWD 🤪 I think I might break my top 50 streak with this one; I’ve never got used to any of the FWD cars really except that fantastic Mazda 3(?) from a few months back!
Happy lapping everyone and good luck @Metalgear9493 if you try to go for the solid gold crown for this one, we believe in you brah!
Well I did it, one session, one shot, one PB in the 2:14s!!
The insanity of gtplanet is that there are still quite a few forum members above me, if I finish above P16 I’ll be pumped but in reality I’m just happy with my lap ☺️ I didn’t quite have it in me to match @Ed_Night but that’s no big surprise, it was nice pretending I had a chance 😁
Hopefully home Friday to try and somehow figure out how to drive FWD 🤪 I think I might break my top 50 streak with this one; I’ve never got used to any of the FWD cars really except that fantastic Mazda 3(?) from a few months back!
Happy lapping everyone and good luck @Metalgear9493 if you try to go for the solid gold crown for this one, we believe in you brah!
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Very well done, @Dan_Tes. One piece of advice, in terms of replay recording, I noticed the splits aren’t showing in your replay. I’m assuming that’s by accident. Did you perhaps watch it once and then rewind? If I recall correctly, that’s when that happens, or one of the instances in case there are several ways.
I got rid of the AFEELA TT tonight as well, quickly came to the conclusion that I was absolutely not going to drive this more than one evening, so as to not kill my motivation going forward. I try to stay positive these days but man, this combo was a drab. Didn’t enjoy it at all.
Here’s a few random suggestions of cars off the top of my head for some fun time trials (some varying tyres obviously):
I got rid of the AFEELA TT tonight as well, quickly came to the conclusion that I was absolutely not going to drive this more than one evening, so as to not kill my motivation going forward. I try to stay positive these days but man, this combo was a drab. Didn’t enjoy it at all.
Here’s a few random suggestions of cars off the top of my head for some fun time trials (some varying tyres obviously):
- Pagani Zonda R ’09
- Ferrari Testarossa ’91
- Peugeot 908 HDi FAP ’10
- TVR Tuscan Speed 6 ’00
- RE Amemiya FD3S RX-7
- McLaren MP4-12C ’10
- Lexus RC F ’14
- Specified Gr. category, such as with the Gr.4 Scirocco TT we have now but instead, let’s do for example only one of the old (’08) Super GT cars, Honda NSX GT500, Lexus SC430 GT500 or Nissan GT-R GT500. Or same logic with Gr.1, specify one of the ones you rarely see, due to being uncompetitive)
- Red Bull Ring (5 appearances)
- Suzuka (5)
- Interlagos (4)
- Road Atlanta (4)
- Lago Maggiore (2 Full + 1 East Reverse + 1 West End ≈ 4)
- Watkins Glen (2 Full + 2 Short ≈ 4)
- Le Mans (3)
- Fuji (3)
- Nürburgring GP (3)
- Laguna Seca (3)
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- nope_not_here
Didn't touch the Scirocco for 3 days and decided to give it a long-ish run and see if I can get into the 1:27s....
Well I did, but still annoyed that I could've done much better. I will see if I feel like doing another run tomorrow.
Well I did, but still annoyed that I could've done much better. I will see if I feel like doing another run tomorrow.
TheNormsk
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I’m surprised that I’m loving how the Scirocco drives around Laguna Seca. I got gold on my second lap and then proceeded to a low 1:29 with a sub 2%. Thinking this was easy, I tried to get to the 1:28s. A 1/2 hour later I failed. Hmm. Perhaps not so easy, or I just need to relax and stop over driving the car.
Edit. Mission accomplished! Got into the 28s 😁
Edit. Mission accomplished! Got into the 28s 😁
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- BWX232
I was at 1:29.5xx first session and then decided to forget about being smooth and go aggressive. Had not watched Tidgney's guide yet at the time but I have since.
At the time I just watched #1 spot replay really quick.. I did another lap, and even with many small mistakes I still ended up 0.5 seconds faster. Then it was past 3AM and haven't been back. But maybe try going "aggressive" and see what happens. Slamming into 1st gear for a second while trail braking about 5% like #1 spot does helped me rotate the car in a few corners. I'll see if I can get into the mid 28's next time. I'm about the same speed as you now.
TheNormsk
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After stepping away from the TT and having a disappointing time on the daily races due to dirty driving I jumped back on, but with my main account.
I gave my car an ugly livery and went at it. Took me about 15 minutes to get a 1:28.692. There was a good 2/10ths to be had as well based on my splits before messing up the lap but it got late.
It’s nice to be in the top 10 of my leader board and I’m not too far away from some of the truly fast guys now in this group.
Got to say I’m loving the TTs more than the daily races of late. We can have healthy competition without the nastiness of dirty drivers.
I gave my car an ugly livery and went at it. Took me about 15 minutes to get a 1:28.692. There was a good 2/10ths to be had as well based on my splits before messing up the lap but it got late.
It’s nice to be in the top 10 of my leader board and I’m not too far away from some of the truly fast guys now in this group.
Got to say I’m loving the TTs more than the daily races of late. We can have healthy competition without the nastiness of dirty drivers.
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TheNormsk
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Marks where the edge of the car is after lining it up with the edge of the track. It helps to stop me from putting wheels on grass/dirt and crashing out when I don’t know the width of a car. Allows me to maximize the width of the track.
Those were from prior TTs. This one was easy and I haven’t got round to adjusting them. For now, they give a good enough range from narrow cars to wide cars.
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Morning or evening Folks!
Laguna is one of the most frustrating timetrials in a long time for me progression wise, did another run this morning with mostly .1xx average I think, but with faster stuffups than yesterday 😂🙈, I invalidated a 27.865 on the exit on the mainstraight, long time since I have been mad at a game 😂😂
it's good, but realy doesn't feel that way because you know you can do better, it's in there but it's so damn easy to loose time on EVERY corner on Seca.
the .8xx ....I tried....but failed 😂😂 felt like i had it tho on this lap 😂
New PB so im semi-happy 😂😂
From 950 to 906 😁
You see..... it's those morning runs!
That means alarm at O-600 mate 5 days a week....😁 join the club 😁😁😂😂
Well done!
Laguna is one of the most frustrating timetrials in a long time for me progression wise, did another run this morning with mostly .1xx average I think, but with faster stuffups than yesterday 😂🙈, I invalidated a 27.865 on the exit on the mainstraight, long time since I have been mad at a game 😂😂
it's good, but realy doesn't feel that way because you know you can do better, it's in there but it's so damn easy to loose time on EVERY corner on Seca.
the .8xx ....I tried....but failed 😂😂 felt like i had it tho on this lap 😂
New PB so im semi-happy 😂😂
From 950 to 906 😁
You see..... it's those morning runs!
That means alarm at O-600 mate 5 days a week....😁 join the club 😁😁😂😂
Well done!
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- rising_glass1
Gm Jomar, what was that thing with the eyes on your car? It looked like an evil version of Pac-man, lol. I'm way far behind you, I may not be able to get in the top 10,000 this time. We will see how things go for me this weekend.
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I would like to join the 0600 club. But I do have alarm set for 5-5:45, but that is my usual wake up hour to get ready and go to work
Did some short stint yesterday evening, but most of that time was wasted for trying new rubber setups in my brake pedal.
That ended with going back to the one I had when I bought the wheel. Immediately I improved my time by STUNNING .02s
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I would like to ask you if there is a link to save it to my library. Superb design, absolutely!
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- half_sourly
I'm thinking of adding some extra scorecards on the other thread to the overall and calendar year ones. They will be by car type and all cars could probably be split into these categories:
Let me have your input. I've put the full list to date under the spoiler to help think through odd ones.
- Racing (Gr.1 to 4, formula cars, GT500, etc.)
- Road - would include hyper cars such as the Valkyrie
- VGT - no matter flavour, VGT is its own category
- Rally/ Group B (including Pike's Peak Escudo)
Let me have your input. I've put the full list to date under the spoiler to help think through odd ones.
| TT# | Car |
1 | Suzuki V6 Escudo Pikes Peak Special '98 |
2 | SF19 SuperFormula |
3 | Honda Civic |
4 | Nissan Skyline SS |
5 | Gr.4 |
6 | Gr.2 |
7 | Nissan Z Performance '23 |
8 | McLaren MP4/4 '88 |
9 | Corvette ZR1 '19 |
10 | Gr.3 |
11 | Nissan R34 GT-R V-spec II Nür '02 |
12 | Suzuki V6 Escudo Pikes Peak Special '98 |
13 | GT Red Bull X2019 Competition |
14 | Honda NSX Type R '02 |
15 | Gr.4 |
16 | Porsche Cayman GT4 '16 |
17 | Volkswagen ID. R '19 |
18 | Honda NSX '17 |
19 | Gr.3 |
20 | Ford Mustang GT '15 |
21 | Toyota Alphard Executive Lounge '18 |
22 | Radical SR3 SL '13 |
23 | Alfa Romeo Giulia GTAm '20 |
24 | Gr.3 |
25 | Wicked Fabrication GT 51 |
26 | Gr.3 |
27 | Super Formula SF23 |
28 | GReddy Fugu Z |
29 | Gr.1 |
30 | Audi TTS Coupé '14 |
31 | Gr.4 |
32 | Genesis G70 3.3T AWD Prestige Package '22 |
33 | Aston Martin Valkyrie '21 |
34 | Amuse NISMO 380RS Super Leggera |
35 | Gr.3 |
36 | Gran Turismo Red Bull X2014 Junior |
37 | Dodge Viper GTS '13 |
38 | Mazda LM55 VGT |
39 | Maserati MC20 '20 |
40 | Gr.2 |
41 | Ferrari 330 P4 '67 |
42 | Chevrolet Corvette C8 Stingray '20 |
43 | Aston Martin DB5 '64 |
44 | Gr.3 |
45 | Gr.3 |
46 | Garage RCR Civic |
47 | Gr.1 |
48 | Lamborghini Lambo V12 VGT |
49 | Gr.4 |
50 | MB Mercedes-AMG GT Black Series '20 |
51 | Nismo 400R '95 |
52 | Toyota GR Yaris RZ "High Performance" '20 |
53 | Porsche 911 GT3 RS (992) '22 |
54 | Gr.3 |
55 | Alpine A110 Première Édition '17 |
56 | Bugatti Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.1) |
57 | Shelby G.T.350 '65 |
58 | Gr.2 |
59 | Alfa Romeo 4C '14 |
60 | Toyota Supra GT500 '97 |
61 | Mazda RX-8 Spirit R '12 |
62 | Honda Civic Type R (EK) Touring Car |
63 | Genesis X Gran Berlinetta VGT Concept |
64 | Gr.4 |
65 | Gr.3 |
66 | Mercedes-Benz 190 E 2.5 - 16 Evolution II '91 |
67 | 1932 Ford Roadster |
68 | Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX MR GSR '06 |
69 | Bugatti Veyron Gr.4 |
70 | Ferrari Dino 246 GT '71 |
71 | Chevrolet Chaparral 2X VGT |
72 | Toyota GT-One (TS020) '99 |
73 | McLaren Ultimate VGT |
74 | KTM X-BOW R '12 |
75 | Jaguar XJ13 '66 |
76 | Škoda VGT |
77 | AFEELA Prototype 2024 |
78 | Volkswagen Scirocco Gr.4 |
