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Wow guys, you're getting even faster every day by the minute. See what everyone's capable of doing? You have to study the replays over and over again until you understand the concept and trick. However Interlagos isn't one of my best tracks. I've learned from experience in 2022-2023. Good luck this weekend guys! Happy hot lapping.
 
I’m feeling the Ferrari. The car communicates so smoothly and just floats when you’re on the limit of traction. Good stuff. Still, some corners I’m not maximizing my rotation but I will fit-in another round tomorrow. Happy with 1:41.950 for now.
 

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Morning folks,.

Didn't have the finess in the fingers this morning for the GTO, tried for a few laps but felt like it's fitted with comfort hards, so against all expectation I went back to Grand Valley for a last run, my 11.012 was already on the edge of dropping out of the top 100.

Few laps later ran a 10.934 😁
Rather easy compared all the session I had and there was still exactly a tenth on the table this morning but this it it for me!

Happy with a secured top 100, I think? number 26...

Now my focus goes out to the GTO

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But we all know you are not going to leave this be......, go get it! 🙏


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Have a good weekend folks!
 
A decent improvement at GV, the balance between been smooth and throwing the Lancia around is fine and I was spending too much time doing the latter thinking it was faster

I think I’m about at my limit and now I’m away for Silverstone so I hope this sticks in the 300’s as it’ll be a new PB 🤞

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I actually managed to turn the ps5 on and have a go in the Delta for just under an hour. Did you guys get faster or am I slower? 😅
Welcome back, sadly I don't have my ps5 right now, had to sell it due to an emergency. My mom has ovarian cancer. I'll explain more later. Interlagos isn't one of my strong tracks though just to let you know.
 
I actually managed to turn the ps5 on and have a go in the Delta for just under an hour. Did you guys get faster or am I slower? 😅
In this world of always online, you're actually being penalised by Sony and PD. They've applied a hidden BoP to people like you who don't play so often. I'm sorry but we all agreed to the terms and conditions when first starting the game

Kaz in his evil boss dungeon whilst stroking a cat: "he hasn't logged on for 2 weeks, apply a 25hp penalty to Blayney immediately"

Also Kaz: "and where is that Xiaomi!"
 
Some random thoughts.

The Ferrari
I started out with assists on the Ferrari because it just was not driveable at my skill level. Then I took assists off and was a bit surprised to find out I actually could drive it, and that if I paid attention to feedback and got a sense of which curbs and turns the car "liked" and which ones it "hated," then I am kind of enjoying the process of handling this sensitive car. I think this may help me have smoother inputs going forward. I guess it goes without saying but gaining confidence driving sensitive cars is bound to improve my ability to push limits on driver-friendly cars.

Using Automatic
I use auto and some tracks (or track/car combos) just don't lens themselves to posting good trial times. Grand Valley and RBR are/were both safely gold, yet Monza is giving me grief. I think better trail-braking in about 4 spots might be the difference, but right now I can't seem to get that last half second for gold. And, the chicane in auto sucks out a ton of time that I have to find elsewhere.
 
Some random thoughts.

The Ferrari
I started out with assists on the Ferrari because it just was not driveable at my skill level. Then I took assists off and was a bit surprised to find out I actually could drive it, and that if I paid attention to feedback and got a sense of which curbs and turns the car "liked" and which ones it "hated," then I am kind of enjoying the process of handling this sensitive car. I think this may help me have smoother inputs going forward. I guess it goes without saying but gaining confidence driving sensitive cars is bound to improve my ability to push limits on driver-friendly cars.

Using Automatic
I use auto and some tracks (or track/car combos) just don't lens themselves to posting good trial times. Grand Valley and RBR are/were both safely gold, yet Monza is giving me grief. I think better trail-braking in about 4 spots might be the difference, but right now I can't seem to get that last half second for gold. And, the chicane in auto sucks out a ton of time that I have to find elsewhere.
That's a very good step to take, good job on that, and you will probably be faster in the long run without the assist, (that doesnt mean you cant get realy fast with ) and indeed is kind of car depending.
But learning the raw limits is always a good thing!, then GTO is driving into the deep 😁🤣👌 quite a handfull.

Automatic is indeed a disadvantage here i think, it will probably stay in 2nd way too long at the first chicane, and on exit way to long in 3th, then it yeets it into 2nd for the left hander after that I asume? Making getting the power down extremely difficult...

I would say dive deeper,..... and give MT a try for this TT if you can, definitely faster sometimes!
 
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Some random thoughts.

The Ferrari
I started out with assists on the Ferrari because it just was not driveable at my skill level. Then I took assists off and was a bit surprised to find out I actually could drive it, and that if I paid attention to feedback and got a sense of which curbs and turns the car "liked" and which ones it "hated," then I am kind of enjoying the process of handling this sensitive car. I think this may help me have smoother inputs going forward. I guess it goes without saying but gaining confidence driving sensitive cars is bound to improve my ability to push limits on driver-friendly cars.

Using Automatic
I use auto and some tracks (or track/car combos) just don't lens themselves to posting good trial times. Grand Valley and RBR are/were both safely gold, yet Monza is giving me grief. I think better trail-braking in about 4 spots might be the difference, but right now I can't seem to get that last half second for gold. And, the chicane in auto sucks out a ton of time that I have to find elsewhere.
Yes, always have confidence and let the assists go for a while. Once you feel comfortable with the car and you are able to get better times, then you won't need the assists anymore and you can set your TC level to 0. Helps to improve your exit speed through advanced corners and hairpins. You'll get the hang of it. Maybe a couple years from now, you'll be as fast as some of the professionals and aliens. Good steps taken, like GomarioJSP said.

Use MT if you want an extra challenge to test your skills even more.
 
That's a very good step to take, good job on that, and you will probably be faster in the long run without the assist, (that doesnt mean you cant get realy fast with ) and indeed is kind of car depending.
But learning the raw limits is always a good thing!, then GTO is driving into the deep 😁🤣👌 quite a handfull.

Automatic is indeed a disadvantage here i think, it will probably stay in 2nd way too long at the first chicane, and on exit way to long in 3th, then it yeets it into 2nd for the left hander after that I asume? Making getting the power down extremely difficult...

I would say dive deeper,..... and give MT a try for this TT if you can, definitely faster sometimes!
I agree with all of this, especially the AT part, it’s doable but you’ll need to run CSA or have a+ levels of controller fidelity or the patience of a saint hitting the throttle.

Braking early is the strong approach but controlling the early upshift is the key for gold on this one, coasting is easier when you pick change up or down.
 
I didn't have any plan on posting today but my first session went so well that I thought why not. I manage a 1:40.460 which is quite an optimised time for my first session, I typically never have a highly optimised time on the first one so this was quite a surprise. There is still two more sessions to do as I do three for every time trial so I'm quite interested to see what I'll be able to get this down to by the end of the third one. I will say, I like this car and track combo so far. Only thing I would point out is the car has very bad brakes but it's an 80's car so I'll give it a pass, that aside really fun combo and very nice car to drive!

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After 100-150 attempts I've silver in one of 5 user accounts in the Grand Valley time trial. On Monza I needed 5-10 attempts to be 0.5% from gold..! All on AT.
How many seconds or % on average per lap is lost by using AT instead of MT at Grand Valley?
 
I said I'd go back if I passed more than 4500....
last night, 5328....so back in the Lancia and I got a 12.199....in 50 kms......with an opti of 12.023....🤪😜🤪😂
so I insisted on 80 kms more, but without improving....☹️☹️

I had some good laps, but either I was reset for cutting too much, or I switched to red.....or I hit the tunnel entrance in the last bend....🤬😡

it's between the 2 tunnels that I need to improve and concentrate well.....the last bend is decisive for the long straight....

there's nothing more infuriating than being ahead going into the tunnel and seeing that lead melt away until you're in the black before the finish line......😡😡😡😂😂😂

but....as I'm in no hurry to ride in Brazil, I'm going to insist on staying under 4000 and why not 3500....😎🤣🤣

hey yes, the grandpas are resisting....😂😂😂 :cheers: :gtpflag:


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Morning folks,

Focus on Ferrari, that beautiful GTO ( with a 2.9 liter V8 😁🤣) what a joy this is, great sound, great predictable handling, less great brakes but good enough, rotates beautifully, a bit to understeery for my liking though but great combo!

Found a little time this morning, almost all my laps were made or broken by the last corner.... 2nd for extra rotation seems to be the fastest for me, but still a lot of time on the table, I'm very bad on the Senna's, I'm loosing a lot compared to P1 here.

But not to Shaabbyy at all !

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So... about that...

Also somebody didn't read the article.
No I ofcourse read the article 😁, true its 2.855 so indeed is a 2.9 , still don't understand why Ferrari named it 288 then?, as far as I can find they named it after displacement and cilinders right? , why not 298 then?, any idea? ( cause I don't want to make any more mistake ) 🤣🤣
 
I'm sitting at I think 3.30% in the Ferrari. As I expected, so far gold eludes me. I can't ever really seem to get a good handle on Interlagos. I'll take a corner at what feels like a great pace only to glance at the delta and see I've lost 3 or 4 tenths. I have a busy week coming up too so may not get much wheel time at all till next weekend.
 
No I ofcourse read the article 😁, true its 2.855 so indeed is a 2.9 , still don't understand why Ferrari named it 288 then?, as far as I can find they named it after displacement and cilinders right? , why not 298 then?, any idea? ( cause I don't want to make any more mistake ) 🤣🤣
This is what I found as an explanation :

"The 288 designation refers to the engine's total displacement and number of cylinders, 2.8 liters and 8 cylinders. Obviously, the "GTO" model is a retro reference to the legendary 250 GTO of the early sixties, of which it attempted to be the spiritual successor in GT racing, an aborted attempt."

Donc 28 + 8 = 288
 
This is what I found as an explanation :

"The 288 designation refers to the engine's total displacement and number of cylinders, 2.8 liters and 8 cylinders. Obviously, the "GTO" model is a retro reference to the legendary 250 GTO of the early sixties, of which it attempted to be the spiritual successor in GT racing, an aborted attempt."

Donc 28 + 8 = 288
True indeed but Famine rightly mentioned it's is a 2.9 beeing 2.855 so I am again a bit confused 🤣🤣 But....

This is from AI,

The Ferrari 288 GTO is called "288" not because it is a 2.9 liter engine, but because the engine's displacement is actually 2.855 liters, which is closer to 2.8 liters than 2.9. The engine is a de-bored version of the 3.0 liter V8 found in the 308, with a 1mm reduction in bore, resulting in the 2855cc displacement. The "GTO" designation stands for "Gran Turismo Omologato," indicating its homologation for racing

I get it 😁😁🙏
 
No I ofcourse read the article 😁, true its 2.855 so indeed is a 2.9 , still don't understand why Ferrari named it 288 then?, as far as I can find they named it after displacement and cilinders right? , why not 298 then?, any idea? ( cause I don't want to make any more mistake ) 🤣🤣
Ferrari only called it the GTO. "288" was a nickname given by others to distinguish it from the 250 GTO, but why - given that it's a 2.9 - I don't know; a general lack of maths ability maybe? :lol:

Edit: As demonstrated by your LLM! 2855cc is obviously closer to 2.9 - 45cc from 2.9 and 55cc from 2.8 - so that LLM cannot math!

Then again, it was loosely based on the 308, which was officially called that but also had a 2.9 (2927cc)...

The 2855cc was more or less a debored version of the 308's engine (developed alongside the Lancia LC2; same 308 unit, destroked), with turbos. Under the turbocharging equivalency formula that made it 3997cc, just under the four-litre limit for Group B.

Even the GTO name was itself amusing as it wasn't actually intended as a homologation model. Originally the car was a "skunkworks" project, inspired by Group B (hence the engine sizing) and basically to revive Ferrari's more sporting image after a few more... comfy cars, but not specifically for it. Enzo Ferrari didn't directly control the road car division - he'd sold it to FIAT, but was still closely, if decreasingly involved - so this kind of road-homologation wasn't entirely possible.

That said it ended up being made in sufficient numbers (271+1) that it could have been, Enzo picked every customer except arguably the last one (who picked himself, effectively) and the five (of 20, for Evo model homologation) Evoluzione was the start of an attempt for Group B circuit racing (most people think Group B is rally, but they were eligible for WSC as well; it wasn't a very well attended category) before the whole thing fell apart.
 
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Ferrari only called it the GTO. "288" was a nickname given by others to distinguish it from the 250 GTO, but why - given that it's a 2.9 - I don't know; a general lack of maths ability maybe? :lol:

Edit: As demonstrated by your LLM! 2855cc is obviously closer to 2.9 - 45cc from 2.9 and 55cc from 2.8 - so that LLM cannot math!

Then again, it was loosely based on the 308, which was officially called that but also had a 2.9 (2927cc)...

The 2855cc was more or less a debored version of the 308's engine (developed alongside the Lancia LC2; same 308 unit, destroked), with turbos. Under the turbocharging equivalency formula that made it 3997cc, just under the four-litre limit for Group B.

Even the GTO name was itself amusing as it wasn't actually intended as a homologation model. Originally the car was a "skunkworks" project, inspired by Group B (hence the engine sizing) and basically to revive Ferrari's more sporting image after a few more... comfy cars, but not specifically for it. Enzo Ferrari didn't directly control the road car division - he'd sold it to FIAT, but was still closely, if decreasingly involved - so this kind of road-homologation wasn't entirely possible.

That said it ended up being made in sufficient numbers (271+1) that it could have been, Enzo picked every customer except arguably the last one (who picked himself, effectively) and the five (of 20, for Evo model homologation) Evoluzione was the start of an attempt for Group B circuit racing (most people think Group B is rally, but they were eligible for WSC as well; it wasn't a very well attended category) before the whole thing fell apart.
Thanks for this info, very interesting!, 🙏

Yeah 🤣 math doesn't seem to be the strongest point here 🤣
 
Hi,

I have been playing GT7 since it launched. It is the only game I own. Ever since the very first time trial, I have struggled with one corner on almost every track that has been a time trial. One corner has been my downfall, my nemesis and my undoing.

I can get really close to the fastest times until that one corner comes along and ruins my lap. It must be a mental block thing.

Until today! I have no idea how or what just happened here...



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I hit every apex. Nailed every braking point and smashed my throttle inputs (almost!) perfectly. "Stoked" doesn't even come close to how I feel right now!

At 1:11:259 I thought I had reached my limit. Then a quick comfort break and a cheeky cigarette and along comes my 1:11:075.
One or two more sessions to try and polish this a little further if I can.

I am shaking with adrenaline!!!


Very best regards to all here.


Ian.
 
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