Tips for rear wheel drive?

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Hey there. Some background. I'm a 36 year old man that never learned how to drive. I bought GT 6 on sale for 20 bucks at walmart. Haven't played GT since GT3 on ps2. Back then I sucked pretty bad at it.

I started playing GT6 last week. I was surprised by how well (relatively speaking) I was doing. Got my national b license in no time. To work towards my national a, I got a camaro. Thought it was a steal as far as $/pp goes.

Well, I realised that it is rear wheel drive. I'm slipping and sliding all over the place. I can use the fwd cars with no assists without much problem.

I have to use skid protection and traction control for the rear wheel drive cars.

Any tips for how to drive these? I'm using the dual shock controller right now. Have a driving wheel coming in tomorrow.
 
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Hey there. Some background. I'm a 36 year old man that never learned how to drive. I bought GT 6 on sale for 20 bucks at walmart. Haven't played GT since GT3 on ps2. Back then I sucked pretty bad at it.

I started playing GT6 last week. I was surprised by how well (relatively speaking) I was doing. Got my national b license in no time. To work towards my national a, I got a camaro. Thought it was a steal as far as $/pp goes.

Well, I realised that it is rear wheel drive. I'm slipping and sliding all over the place. I can use the fwd cars with no assists without much problem.

I have to use skid protection and traction control for the rear wheel drive cars.

Any tips for how to drive these? I'm using the dual shock controller right now. Have a driving wheel coming in tomorrow.
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The key thing to remember is in the description.
Front wheel drive: This means that the power from the engine is delivered by the front wheels, because the power is coming from the front it is pulling the car through the bends. The front wheels are also responsible for the steering so the car wants to go in which ever direction these wheels are pointing. When you apply power whilst turning the rear of the car is being pulled by the front

Rear wheel drive: This means that the drive from the engine is being sent to the rear wheels, because of this it means the car is being pushed around the corners. The front wheels are still responsible for steering but are no longer directly linked to power delivery. When you apply power the rear wheels wants to accelerate faster than the front which can lead to oversteer.

To avoid oversteer in a RWD car you need to make sure the car is pointing in more of a straight line rather than using the power to pull the car straight when exiting corners as you would with a FWD, this will reduce the likelihood of the rear end breaking away from you.

If you encounter oversteer, you need to counter steer and reduce the amount of power you are sending to the rear wheels. If we imagine you are turning left and you feel the rear wheels breaking traction you need to reduce the amount of throttle, try not to lift off entirely as this can make you spin around the front wheels due to weight transfer. Reducing the amount of throttle will slow the rotation of the car but you also need to counter steer in order to keep the front wheels ahead of the rear. If we are turning left then you need to counter steer to the right, the further round the rear wheels have over rotated, the larger the degree of counter steer you will need in order to catch the slide

Hope that helps 👍
 
This is great, thanks very much for this DolHaus. I'll have to try to put this into practice. I've had a look at the links in your sig, and those resources look awesome! Going to have to check them out.
 
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If you encounter oversteer, you need to counter steer and reduce the amount of power you are sending to the rear wheels. If we imagine you are turning left and you feel the rear wheels breaking traction you need to reduce the amount of throttle, try not to lift off entirely as this can make you spin around the front wheels due to weight transfer. Reducing the amount of throttle will slow the rotation of the car but you also need to counter steer in order to keep the front wheels ahead of the rear. If we are turning left then you need to counter steer to the right, the further round the rear wheels have over rotated, the larger the degree of counter steer you will need in order to catch the slide

Hope that helps 👍
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That's the big take-away here. Weight wants to move forward under any deceleration (whether it be braking or simply no longer applying throttle), and with enough forward weight transfer, the rear tires can be unsettled and lose contact with the driving surface. Make a mental note when this occurs, though, because keeping the car pointed the right way is generally the fastest, and applying oversteer experiences to your approach on any particular corner will allow you to prevent them and hold a smooth line through--resulting in a faster exit.
 
try installing limited slip diferentials and set them to low values (like 5/15/10) and try driving.
 
Lots of good advice here so I'll add this. If you are really focused on learning how to drive in this game remove all the aids, except ABS (you can learn ABS0 later if interested) and simply force yourself to drive the cars without aids. SRF in particular is like an invisible hand keeping you on the track and bear no relation to any real life physics. It will make you feel like superman and teach you bad habits at the same time. With SRF and other aids off, you will learn to feel what the car is doing and once you figure it out, you'll never go back.

A good car to start to learn with is the BRZ/GT86/FR-S on Comfort Soft tires. Not so fast that you'll get into a lot of trouble, but fun and lively at the limit. Run it purely stock.
 
I'll just add,
given you've never learned to drive, have you had any real experience on dirt-bikes, go-karts, etc?
getting a sense of speed and how fast you can turn, plus how much distance you need when braking is something that is really needed.

My first bit of advice is to use the bonnet/ roof view, so you can see exactly where the front of the car is, but you need to concentrate on the road ahead of the car.
"Look where you want to go" NOT "where you are now"
this also helps get you out of oversteering slides.

When you have the wheel (Hopefully a DFGT or better with good Force Feedback) you'll be able to feel when teh car is out of shape much sooner than relying on your eyes to spot it.
 
Lots of good advice here.

As Robbks says, hopefully the wheel is a Logitech DFGT or better. That is the accepted entry point for a wheel - anything less will be slower than using a hand controller. the cheap Thrustmaster wheels for instance don't have force feedback and rely on rubber bands to centre the wheel - as you would expect these bands break after a while.

You will also need something stable to mount the wheel on. I struggled with a modified work mate (work bench) for a while before investing in a Wheelstand Pro, which I found perfect for my needs.

Once you have your wheel I think you will get used to driving FR cars pretty quickly and you will probably find that FF cars are actually harder to drive fast.

Final suggestion - start the game again with the wheel and by the time you get to the career stage in the game that you are now, you will already be faster, more consistent and more in control of your cars. If you try to start with the wheel from where you are now, you will probably be disappointed and frustrated because it takes a while to learn how to use a wheel, but if you are patient it is very rewarding and really brings the game to life.
 

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