To those still frustrated at the Course Creator's delay...

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Nooboogering
Hmm.



PD are a small company a factor not seen by a lot of fans expecting such a small group to generate a great deal of comfort to all who purchase their game.
Only the competition will keep everyone happy.
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PD are going to be even smaller when nobody buys GT7 & they have to lay off half their staff because they can't afford to pay the wages.
 
Mr Grumpy
PD are going to be even smaller when nobody buys GT7 & they have to lay off half their staff because they can't afford to pay the wages.
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That's the best argument I ever heard! Buy this game that you don't like, because otherwise the next game is going to be even worse!
 
Davoxx
According to sales i think, if they don't sale as much as Sony ask they will for sure reduce the budget IMO.
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Thus their budget is set by Sony (well, SCE), not by sales.
 
Imari
That's the best argument I ever heard! Buy this game that you don't like, because otherwise the next game is going to be even worse!
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I don't dislike the game, I'll play GT6 till they shut the servers down regardless of whether they pull the plug on any missing features & leave it as it is or make all 1200 cars premium & add a load of new stuff that were never mentioned & call it GT6.5.

The point is im not buying GT7, it could be the best GT yet & I hope it is for all us fans sake & PD's but sorry im not going through all this again.
 
sirjim73
Honest question... Does it need to be that precise...? If I drive from a to b my satnav shows all the curves and bends on the way. All it needs to know is where I turn left or right and it knows what road I'm on for the next part.
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You are correct. It doesn't need to fetch gps data constantly. If the app is smart, it can just combine the gps data with accelerometer data to guess what's in between the gps measurement points.

Furthermore, the faster you drive, the fewer and slighter the turns tend to be.

MXHyland
PD are small by choice. Some keep forgetting that as well.
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I can understand wanting to keep the teams small. They become easier to manage, and you get a better overview of who's doing what and how well they're doing. However, you can outsource stuff that is technically easy to make, but just takes a lot of time. Creating exterior car models, for example. They get the measurements and possibly partial CAD schematics from the car manufacturers, and you can get a lot of reference pictures of most of the cars. They could pay an external company to do this for them, and instead focus on the parts that requires more artistic skill to create, such as updating the graphics on the original tracks.

I imagine that actual 3-dimensional tree models is also something they could safely oursource.
 
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Famine
Thus their budget is set by Sony (well, SCE), not by sales.
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Yes Famine, I was saying that Sony must based the budget allocate to PD on something which is I think sales (of course not only). I think if GT7 sales numbers are bad/good Sony will reduce/increase the budget for GT8.
 
i was highly expecting the editor when GT6 was launched.

i knew there would be new cars, tracks and a lot of surprises ( good or bad ones, not the point here )
but the feature that could make or break the lifetime of the game was this one: the track editor.

IMO, it wasn't "that" hard to make an awesome editor only with a few tweaks here and there of the GT5 one:

allow it to generate some really tight hairpins,
allow us just a bit of control over the randomness of the corners placement, elevation variation
A to B races
maybe one or two map more and we're set!

only with this, the editor is kind of efficient enough for us to have the patience for whatever Kaz has in mind
about the ultimate revamped editor he can't bring us yet

just my two cents
 
To help the people waiting for the other features, if you have the money, go buy and play some other racing games like Driveclub, F1 2014, amd NFS Rivals or games in general like FIFA, Madden, BF4, etc. It really helps pass the time, heck, I havn't even thought about the course maker for nearly 2 months until now! The features will arrive, perhaps not as soon as we want them.
 
If Kaz put a bit more effort into making the development Gran Turismo more "transparent" I believe the hate and frustration would be a lot less than what it has become. Hyping things up then hiding in the shadows is not a good combination when you have acquired such a large fanbase/following.
 
ukfan758
To help the people waiting for the other features, if you have the money, go buy and play some other racing games like Driveclub, F1 2014, amd NFS Rivals or games in general like FIFA, Madden, BF4, etc. It really helps pass the time, heck, I havn't even thought about the course maker for nearly 2 months until now! The features will arrive, perhaps not as soon as we want them.
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The problem with that is they probably won't go back to GT6!!! :)
 
blackjack
If Kaz put a bit more effort into making the development Gran Turismo more "transparent" I believe the hate and frustration would be a lot less than what it has become. Hyping things up then hiding in the shadows is not a good combination when you have acquired such a large fanbase/following.
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Exactly, we have now twitter,facebook tumblr instagram and heck, even GTPlanet frontpage now.
Kazunori senpai notice us
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To people saying we won't get any more big updates and the features we don't have now will be pushed to GT7...

GT5 Spec 2.0 was released around this time of year, pretty much 12 months after release, so there's still hope.

PD may seem illogical with their ways, but I don't think they're the kind of company to just leave a game unfinished.

It will come, it's just a matter of time.
 
Streeto
To people saying we won't get any more big updates and the features we don't have now will be pushed to GT7...

GT5 Spec 2.0 was released around this time of year, pretty much 12 months after release, so there's still hope.

PD may seem illogical with their ways, but I don't think they're the kind of company to just leave a game unfinished.

It will come, it's just a matter of time.
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GT6 should of had the features of GT5 spec 2.0 at least on release (shuffle, endurance, b-spec, course maker). Then update it over the year to a better state, not take it all out & leave us waiting for over a year.
 
Mr Grumpy
GT6 should of had the features of GT5 spec 2.0 at least on release (shuffle, endurance, b-spec, course maker). Then update it over the year to a better state, not take it all out & leave us waiting for over a year.
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Just one thing: shuffle racing and endurance have never been part of the promised features. Kaz has never talked about it.

On the other hand, B-SPEC and course maker, yes. But I am very confident they will be there. The question is when :)
 
Zlork
Just one thing: shuffle racing and endurance have never been part of the promised features. Kaz has never talked about it.

On the other hand, B-SPEC and course maker, yes. But I am very confident they will be there. The question is when :)
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perhaps the b-spec includes some longer endurance racing? Btw i'm optimistic,november should be the month for new functions and we'll enjoy them.
And bash them, like always.
 
Zlork
Just one thing: shuffle racing and endurance have never been part of the promised features. Kaz has never talked about it.

On the other hand, B-SPEC and course maker, yes. But I am very confident they will be there. The question is when :)
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I wasn't talking about promised features, I was talking about missing features, promised or not.

You wouldn't buy a new phone with less features than your previous 1.

Same goes for a new car, house, job, even girlfriend. Life & technology is about evolution, going forward, not backwards.

So why accept a game with less features than its predecessor.
 
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Imari
I imagine that for those of us who aren't aliens it could be quite fun to have "control" of a good driver and be instructing them what to do. A bit like yelling at F1 drivers on TV, except that they listen to you. "Take him on the inside!" "Defend the outside line!" "Later apexes!"
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That made me chuckle a lot, man I've yelled so much at Lewis Hamilton over the years...


I am personally not that bothered about the absence of the Course Maker, what bugs me is the lack of news and transparency over the whole issue. When the course maker for GT5 (yep 5) was announced I instantly thought of STUNTS, this was a DOS game that featured a simple yet powerful track editor for its time. Then it came out and in my opinion it was horrible, we just didn't have much control over the rough shape of the track. With GT6 they went overboard with the whole GPS thing and the 50km x 50km size area. I can't understand why they couldn't think of something simpler, more reasonable and that at the same time would give a greater deal of control to the user.

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This grid based editor although obviously a bit limited was simple, fast to use and functional (and it came out in 1990!). PD could have done something similar with a few modifications such as providing a grid of smaller squares, this would allow you to create the tracks more accurately and to your liking, you also then select the camber for each turn, track width, etc. I am guessing that would have been fine for the most of us but they chose to run the Hype Train once again and that is all we got so far... a bunch of hype and nothing more.

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jimipitbull
Improved physics, additional tracks, improved user interface.

The grass looks a bit greener two.
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I do agree with those points. Just cant understand PD sometimes.
I suppose less equals more on the odd occasion.
Lets hope they don't shut the server's down as soon as we get it all.
 
Mr Grumpy
PD are going to be even smaller when nobody buys GT7 & they have to lay off half their staff because they can't afford to pay the wages.
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Not that you'd want to see that.

MXHyland
PD are small by choice. Some keep forgetting that as well.
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Small by choice but still a small team as of 2014 and 2015 and that small group will continue to produce GT7 - that is something nobody acknowledges except only to put them down.
 

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