Please make it
Express Sport understands that, contrary to paddock rumours, securing the appropriate licencing for the game is not an issue and several developers have expressed an interest in taking the project on in recent years.
Instead, the development time and cost involved in accurately modelling all 30 entries on the grid, potentially in addition to the rest of the TOCA package, is the main stumbling block preventing a comprehensive stand-alone release from Codemasters.
“Our take is very simple – We’ve always been in contact with Codemasters and I’ve had a relationship going back with them into the 90’s,” said Gow.
“At the moment there is no business case for a game because producing a game nowadays is much more expensive than it ever has been. Back when we produced the [original] TOCA Touring Car game I think they had three young developers in front of a computer, they spent about six months doing it and that’s it. Now it is much more complex so it is a much more expensive proposition, and the business model has totally changed.
“We’re always in contact with Codemasters and with other game producers too about one day producing a game but at the moment it doesn’t work for us financially.
“I appreciate Dan’s enthusiasm for ringing them up, but if he’d have rung us up we would have saved him a phone call. Just because the game doesn’t exist, it’s not for our lack of enthusiasm or wanting it to happen.
You mean like they do in the F1 gamesWould be very welcome, but under the current codies model you would end up with a handful of tracks and then the rest of the game being drip fed in paid for dlc...
Thing is, Gow won't let that happen. So, I wonder what T10, PDI and SMS in the world of console developers, had to say about a BTCC proposal. Do those developers feel it's Codemasters' baby? That CM should be the ones to make a ToCA game?Would be very welcome, but under the current codies model you would end up with a handful of tracks and then the rest of the game being drip fed in paid for dlc...
If they mix it with an overall BTCC package with super tourers included, historic cars/events and the current TCR ones. You simply can't go wrong can you?
I see ToCA as a stand alone game. If there were support categories, I'd think they'd be DLC.
Considering that TOCA 2 had support championships (Ford Fiesta, Formula Ford, etc.), I wouldn't have thought it would be difficult to model the aforementioned vehicles and give them a range of generic liveries/driver/team names in place of real-life equivalents. Maybe even carry over certain team liveries from GRID, or even the team creation/livery editor mechanics to give players the chance to play under their own team.Would never happen.
It'll be as simple as BTCC - Clio Cup - Ginetta Challenge - Porsche Super up - Formula 4 - Ginetta Juniors.
And even then you're still talking about a lot of licensing headaches.
You mean like they do in the F1 games
Considering that TOCA 2 had support championships (Ford Fiesta, Formula Ford, etc.), I wouldn't have thought it would be difficult to model the aforementioned vehicles and give them a range of generic liveries/driver/team names in place of real-life equivalents. Maybe even carry over certain team liveries from GRID, or even the team creation/livery editor mechanics to give players the chance to play under their own team.
That's why I was thinking support categories could be DLC. If Gow is including support categories as all of BTCC, I can see what he's saying about it being a chore.Yeah I mean generic for the supports would work. Every sponsor has to be licensed individually so would streamline that. But there can be no compromise on BTCC which is exactly what Alan Gow is saying.
Cramming all those supports at launch could be a problem. Releasing just the cars, tracks and full season and offline user championship and online races, could be enough to start with.Toca 2 had support categories and more besides. If it was just BTCC they'd struggle making it a full price game.
T10 have had some BTCC cars but I don't think they'd think a whole licensed BTCC would be beneficial. PD don't seem to have much of an interest in touring cars.T10, PDI and SMS in the world of console developers, had to say about a BTCC proposal.
I'm just waiting for a full compliment of TCR cars to be added to a game outside of a licensed series.Would be those super tourers much easier to license if they where added under the HSCC construction. This way they would, I imagine, a lot easier to implement into a game with other classes. Next to TOCA , I am still waiting for Super TC2000 or Turismo Nacional to be included in a game..... Ah...one only can dream right ....
You didn't make this. You found an alternative universe where the PS1 was being used in 2019 and taken a picture of that cover.I made a knock off cover art for it. For the PS1 of course, what else
You didn't make this. You found an alternative universe where the PS1 was being used in 2019 and taken a picture of that cover.