top gear lap record beaten
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Ultima's are fabuous cars... stupendously fast with handling to match. Good enough for McLaren to use an Ultima chassis during the development of the F1 many years ago
Big difference between them and things like the Radical, Caprio, FXX etc is that Ultima's are first and foremost ROAD cars.
There's a big owners community... such as the one at Pistonheads...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/forum.asp?h=0&f=20&mid=102569
And even 1 or 2 for sale...
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/list.asp?s=188
Unmatched performance per £££'s ratio.
Big difference between them and things like the Radical, Caprio, FXX etc is that Ultima's are first and foremost ROAD cars.
There's a big owners community... such as the one at Pistonheads...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/forum.asp?h=0&f=20&mid=102569
And even 1 or 2 for sale...
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/list.asp?s=188
Unmatched performance per £££'s ratio.
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Okay, fine. I hate it for no reason whatsoever.
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I dunno. I just find it cheap in some fashion or another. Cheap in the same way that a fight between a Saiyan and a nerd would be.
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I agree. Ok, so the Ultima laps quicker... that's probably just about the only thing it's better at.
The Ultima is only a shade away from being a racecar - Minimal interior, a road-legal exhaust system and a reg plate is pretty much all that stops it from being so.
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The same way but the car itself is slower.
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And the FXX is what? On par with a Rolls Royce?
Hello you. The FXX is a few steps up from the Ultima, mainly due to more advanced materials and technologies - It HAS to have some luxuries and quality about it because, A: It's a Ferrari and B: It's essentially a rich gentleman's toy.
The Ultima is the sledgehammer and the FXX is the precision machinist's nylon-faced mallet.
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I think if its not on the topgear leader board and not driven by the stig, it's just the fastest car driven on the airfield. 
The airfield is only the the TopGear Track when it is in use by TopGear, otherwise it's an AirPort. That's why they say "the track used by top gear". just my two cents.
It does not really matter ... for those who love the car, it's would great! For folks like me who loves the show, i'll wait till the Stig drives it.
The airfield is only the the TopGear Track when it is in use by TopGear, otherwise it's an AirPort. That's why they say "the track used by top gear". just my two cents.
It does not really matter ... for those who love the car, it's would great! For folks like me who loves the show, i'll wait till the Stig drives it.
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As has been pointed out he FXX is far from having any luxuries.
It also has a couple of major drawbacks over the Ultima, for a start you can't drive it in the road (Ferrari don't sell a road legal FXX), hell scratch that you can only drive an FXX at Ferrari organised events, they hold onto the car the rest of the time and make use of all the data collected during the session.
Great option in comparison to the Ultima, personally I'd rather not pay $2.5m and not be able to pick when I drove the car.
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I don't think the FXX is a suitable comparison to the Ultima, just replying to holden. Ignore that the FXX isn't road legal for now, i'm just comparing car to car.
Luxury was the wrong word, so much so that I don't know why I even wasted keystrokes on it. A better term, I suppose, would be fit and finish. The FXX is stripped, but in a 'clean' manner, like the difference between a budget hatch race car and a GT car.
On the other hand, the Ultima seems 'cheap' and unfinished IMO.
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If you ask me the Ultima interior looks a lot more finished than the FXX interior, keep in mind that the Ultima could also be trimmed in any way you want, the FXX will give you no such choice.
You are also ignoring the 'biggie', you can't take the FXX home with you at all, it has to stay with Ferrari!!!!
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I think the guys at Ultima are desperate for publicty, the applied for the stig to drive it and topgear said no, so they did it themselves I think they should go back to there place and be quite. Would that car get over a sleeping policemen?
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A company wanting publicity for it products is wrong for what reason exactly?
I would also love to hear you explain how Ferrari sending an FXX along to Top Gear with MS to drive it does smack of a huge publicity stunt in its own right, particularly as the run broke three of the basic unwritten rules of the power laps (its not road legal, it wasn't on road tyres and the Stig didn't drive it).
A better question to ask would be why TG turned them down when they offered the car to test.
Since when has a company offering its products for independent evaluation been an issue, after all Ferrari didn't do that with the FXX, the Stig didn't drive it, a driver them picked did.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Source - http://www.carsource.co.uk/manufacturer-news/Worst-Speed-Hump-In-Britain-Named/3014822
Source - http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/Content.aspx?f=gtrspec
So yes its more than capable of getting over a sleeping policeman.
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Slightly off-topic, but I love where Ultima have put the stereo head-unit in that image above. "You won't be able to hear it anyway, so we're going to make it as inaccessible for the driver as possible" 
In fact, I'd be worried about the passenger's knee clouting it in hard cornering and doing both their knee and the head unit some damage...
In fact, I'd be worried about the passenger's knee clouting it in hard cornering and doing both their knee and the head unit some damage...
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And that huge speaker next to it. I suppose if you only used it when you could hear it, in other words when you've parked, then it's perfecly safe to lean that far over and fiddle.
With the stero that is, not your passengers legs.
With the stero that is, not your passengers legs.
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See, this obviously can't be that true anymore. Edo got a hold of one, and now have it road legal producing more power than the factory. 2ndly, there is an owner on FChat who owns the #24 FXX (RTB), and he always has access to his. Going even further, if Ferrari have these cars when they're not in use, how are these owners finding the time to change up the liveries every so often? I've seen one car around 4 times this year, and some little decal has either been added, removed, or put in place of another every time. Mix in the fact that some folks have also just seen 1 FXX at a few locations coming out & disappearing.
For me personally, I believe at the most, it's a Ferrari dealer whose holding the cars & that Ferrari isn't always aware of where every single car is at all times. But that's the conclusion I've come to by trying to follow how Ferrari runs this elite program.
I'd also like to add here at the end, that I'm not trying to use this as more baggage to this Ultima vs. FXX debate.
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Mrrh... Yawn.
Slightly expensive street-legal racecar beats utterly stupidly expensive non-street-legal racecar on a racetrack? Who knew?
Doesn't matter if some of the rich bigwigs who own FXXs drive them on the street... they're not street-legal (though money often finds ways of getting around that)... while the Ultima is.
Fantastic time... though I wouldn't put paid to the claim that beating a time set by Schumi makes it any better... Hekki Kovalainen beat Michael Schumacher in the ROC back in 04, and they were in identical F360s... at best... it's even chances, and the car makes the difference.
Slightly expensive street-legal racecar beats utterly stupidly expensive non-street-legal racecar on a racetrack? Who knew?
Doesn't matter if some of the rich bigwigs who own FXXs drive them on the street... they're not street-legal (though money often finds ways of getting around that)... while the Ultima is.
Fantastic time... though I wouldn't put paid to the claim that beating a time set by Schumi makes it any better... Hekki Kovalainen beat Michael Schumacher in the ROC back in 04, and they were in identical F360s... at best... it's even chances, and the car makes the difference.
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And the FXX is what? On par with a Rolls Royce?
The FXX is a track only car that doesn't try to pretend it's a leagal road car. Apples and oranges comparison, you didn't have a good comeback quote.
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So... the Ultima meets motoring requirements in the UK... it's high enough to clear road humps... so... it's pretending to be road-legal? This isn't a Radical, with no radio, roof... or even windshield... and the Radical can't even clear an on-ramp...
Of course, the Radical meets requirements for road use, too.
A car can't "pretend" to be a legal road car. Either it is or isn't. And the Ultima is.
