...Plus, I'm looking forward to Bumblebee kicking Barricade's ass...
As I told my wife when we saw the trailer before Shrek 3, this will either be one of the most awesome things ever, or the worst. I mean you have Transformers (Awesome) and Michael Bay (Worst). What will shine through the most?You want to know why this movie is going to rock? Do you? Do you?
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Yeah, thats what I thought...
I agree about the Bionicle thing. So far Optimus is the only one that looks Transformer like, and that was only after a reworking of the design when fans complained about the designs. Starscream is supposedly reworked, but the transforming jet in the trailer still looks completely unrecognizable in bot form.I saw the trailer before Shrek 3(and that was just OK). I can't believe how radically twisted the story is. What's this meteor crap? A boys camaro that just happens to be a transformer? And I still say it's the Bionicle movie not the transformers.
Honestly, when you first saw Megatron did you think, oh yeah he is recognizable as any form of Megatron ever taken?I can recognize Megatron by sight, but that's only because I've followed the film's production and I have those high-res renders of each character.
Agreed, the bots aren't recongnizable compared to the forms we all knew as kids. That said, I think this movie can still be interesting.
The key to something like this is "how serious are you going to take it?"
If you're the kind that was upset over gene gray not being enough of a red-head in the first x-men movie then you probably will not like this movie. However, if you are laid-back enough to let it slide while trying to enjoy a new vision of Transformers (or x-men for that matter), then you should be able to enjoy the movie.
Well, it is one thing when stories are changed to get away from the near ridiculous way comics and cartoons can do things. Jean Grey was still a red-headed hottie that Wolverine couldn't leave alone. Wolverine still had crazy hair, adamantium-laced bones, claws, a bad attitude, and smoked cigars. He even talked in a raspy voice. Every minor change made in the comics to movies for things like X-Men and Spiderman (changes weren't what bothered me about Spidreman 3) were acceptable because it made things make more sense in what is supposed to be a real world. Spiderman shoots webbing made from his own body instead of being a teenage kid who creates an amazing chemical compound he wears on shooters under his suit. That was a very acceptable change. Transformerr changes aren't for realism sake, but to......I don't know what. I know openly visible gearing and moving parts as opposed to the shielded forms we see with the cartoon characters makes no sense on a soldier robot. But hey, they look cool, right?Agreed, the bots aren't recongnizable compared to the forms we all knew as kids. That said, I think this movie can still be interesting.
The key to something like this is "how serious are you going to take it?"
If you're the kind that was upset over gene gray not being enough of a red-head in the first x-men movie then you probably will not like this movie. However, if you are laid-back enough to let it slide while trying to enjoy a new vision of Transformers (or x-men for that matter), then you should be able to enjoy the movie.
Despite all of my issues with the blasphemy that seems to be happening I have to admit that it does look fun.Never have I gone from not giving a crap about a movie to wanting to be first in line quicker than after watching that internet-exclusive trailer. That shot of StarScream jumping up and flipping into the jet made me clap my hands; that's right, I was applauding a trailer. Now, if Bay ruins this I will be so upset I may never watch another one of his movies again.
You want to know why this movie is going to rock? Do you? Do you?
Yeah, thats what I thought...
How is it that I have missed this novel? This is the second time I've heard of it, but I've never seen it. What is it called and is it available online, or at Wal*Mart?Possible Spoiler:
I've read the set-up novel to the movie recently.....<snip>
This was one of the changes I found acceptable for two reasons.It's a shame they made Optimus a long nose rig instead of his traditional cab-over version.
How is it that I have missed this novel? This is the second time I've heard of it, but I've never seen it. What is it called and is it available online, or at Wal*Mart?
This was one of the changes I found acceptable for two reasons.
1) The Peterbilt they used is one of, if not the largest commercial semi-truck you can get. It allows Optimus to be large and distinct, even in alt-mode.
2) I rarely see cab-over trucks anymore and I drive 80 miles on the interstates daily, so the odds of Optimus scanning one nowadays is slim to none.
BUMP! with a question...
Does anyone yet know what Megatron will transform into? I know quite a few of the others but no idea about Megatron.
...one huge popsicle...
Bought the last copy at Wal*Mart for $4.50 and finished it a few days ago. It's a good read and the characters retain their original personalities in the book, but whether that plays through to the movies is a different thing.Transformers: Ghosts of Yesterday
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It's a short read, but helps to give you a bit of a break until the movie comes out and helps establish the story already.
This is what I have heard as well. My only thing is that I wonder if they explain how once not frozen Megs still doesn't transform. The only thing I can figure is that Megatron would not lower himself to our level because we are "puny humans."Instead, Megatron will retain his Cybertron form of an alien jet since he crash landed on Earth and was frozen before being able to reformat into a new alternate form.
Shouldn't metal not freeze, since it doesn't have water in it? Or some other chemical reason I'm not aware of (thanks humanities major!)
He was searching for Energon, er The Matrix, er The All Spark.....whatever the heck they want to call it this time around. The official movie book calls it Energon, but it was written off of the first script draft. The prequel was written based on the final script and calls it The All Spark. It is rumored that Michael Bay preferred The Matrix from the 1984 animated movie, but there was some copyright issue there.- I am not certain how Megatron became separated from his Decepticons, but apparently his team has been searching for him for some time. He crash-landed in the US in the 1960s (I think), and then the Decepticons discovered where he was after they run into some secret space ship piloted by humans, which was kinda being protected by the autobots, but was eventually destroyed by the Decepticons....
I'm pretty sure he's a Cybertronian jet in the game, as there's footage of him in that alt mode wreaking havoc on the city. I do agree that he'll take a new alt form in the next film, though.- Megatron is apparently a B2 Stealth Bomber in the videogame, so it seems likely that he would perform a similar role in the second movie.
He's been on Earth significantly longer than that. Old Witwicky finds him the Arctic around the turn of the 20th century, as I recall from what I've read. Spike's great-grandfather or something.YSSMAN- I am not certain how Megatron became separated from his Decepticons, but apparently his team has been searching for him for some time. He crash-landed in the US in the 1960s (I think)...
I don't know about West Virginia, but BB's been on Earth for at least thirty years. I believe that model Camaro (some say '74, some say '76) was brand new when he arrived, and he's maintained that alt form ever since. The length of his stay on Earth also explains his fondness for humans, and his rather human-like behavior and mannerisms when in robot form. I think he's the only one that's been there that long, though. Four of them (Prime, Ironhide, Rachet, and Jazz) arrive during the film, they're the four "comets" we see in the trailer. I think that's all of them, isn't it? There's only the five Autobots?YSSMAN- Also, I believe that I understood that several of the autobots had been on Earth for some time. I seem to recall hearing that Bumblebee had been on Earth in West Virginia before going to California...
That doesn't make much sense to me, either. The only explanation I can think of is that he was damaged, and the freezing temperatures prevented his systems from repairing themselves. That throws the whole "woke up in the desert for a short time" thing out of whack, but that's non-canon anyway, so I'd prefer to think it didn't happen. Especially seeing as how powerful he is.. it seems highly unlikely that an awake Megatron could be subdued by some puny humans with nitrogen guns. Also factor in his size.. he's damn near fifty feet tall (bigger than Prime), they'd need some pretty fancy guns to freeze anything more than his feet.FoolkillerThe freezing thing creates a HUGE plothole because in both the book and trailers they can take on a "comet protoform" and exist in space, which would be near absolute zero, yet I am supposed to believe the arctic will freeze them?
I read a bit today that indicated that his voicebox is damaged much more recently, actually within the film itself:FoolkillerAnother plothole is that for millenia Megs is missing and last they ran into him he ripped Bumblebee's voice emitter out. In that time no replacement has been found or built.