Triggers or X/Square? Which is better?

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Poland
Poland
I want to ask you guys which gas and brake preset is better? L2/R2 or X/Square? I heard that X/Square is better than triggers, but it was about Trackmania, arcade racer. How it looks with simulators?
 
Unfortunately the DS4 does not have pressure sensitive action buttons (X, square, circle, triangle) like the DS2 and DS3 did. Maybe there's good reason for it? I don't know, but it certainly handicaps those who are used to using X/square for accelerating and braking. In my opinion the triggers aren't sensitive or linear enough. Best thing ever is to get a wheel and pedal set.
 
I have always used the d-pad and X/Square in previous GTs (and all racing games), but for some reason I didn't like it in GT Sport, so now I'm using the triggers and analog stick.

It certainly helps that the DS4 also feels so much better than the DS3...
 
On the PS2 I almost always used the right stick and sometimes the buttons but since the move to PS3 and PS4 I‘ve been using the triggers when I wasn‘t able to use the wheel
 
Triggers all the way, right stick is for looking, x and square or R1/L1 are for gears. I like to keep my right thumb free for looking
 
On PS4 ... it's better a wheel .... (X and Square are not sensitive).

I'm against the Triggers because the "movent" to accelerate or braking is Push (buttons..pedal) not pull (trigger).. but it's only my opinion, nothing more.

IR
 
On PS4 ... it's better a wheel .... (X and Square are not sensitive).

I'm against the Triggers because the "movent" to accelerate or braking is Push (buttons..pedal) not pull (trigger).. but it's only my opinion, nothing more.

IR

You push the triggers on a PS4 Controller, not pull. You are getting confused with a gun
 
I use X/Square for throttle/brake and triggers for shifting as this is the layout I used on the older games.
 
You are mistaken sir. When you pull on something it moves toward you. Pushing on something moves it away from you. The object in use does not dictate the physics behind pushing and pulling.

Maybe you're confusing pushing with pressing?

You push the trigger button down though, you don't pull it
 
You push the trigger button down though, you don't pull it

If you were holding the controller backwards you would be pushing it forward. But since we all hold it the correct way, we pull the trigger toward ourselves. This is the entire reason we call it a trigger and not just another button. You don't push the trigger button down, you press it down, by utilizing a pulling motion.

Why don't you say "push the trigger" when talking about a gun? There's no difference here.
 
Unfortunately the DS4 does not have pressure sensitive action buttons (X, square, circle, triangle) like the DS2 and DS3 did. Maybe there's good reason for it? I don't know, but it certainly handicaps those who are used to using X/square for accelerating and braking. In my opinion the triggers aren't sensitive or linear enough. Best thing ever is to get a wheel and pedal set.

I'm always surprised at how few people know this, glad you bought it up 👍

Sony removed the pressure sensitivity from the action buttons with the launch of the Dual Shock 4. The main reason they did this was purely due to cost. What with the new controller having a touch pad, light bar, speaker etc they were eager to cut costs somewhere and as triggers had become so popular with most games they thought it wouldn't be missed.

That's why some people suddenly found driving in this current generation of games using the buttons uncomfortable or odd, it was mostly due to the fact they were unaware that they were now just full on/off buttons. It was kind of a step back imo but I guess times move on and games are developed with that in mind.

As for the question, I loved using the buttons in racing games back in the day but now its almost impossible to get used to given the reason above so I prefer the triggers now.
 
I'll forever miss the old analog face buttons. I still use them on the DS4 because it's physically painful to use the triggers. My hands are not in good condition. :lol:

For the longest time I didn't get a PS4 after I heard they went digital, but so many nice games pulled me in regardless.
 
I’m Ranked 5th in the World on a Circuit Experience Track and quite often on the Top10 for the Dailies I do using X/Square. I think the triggers have higher potential than X/Square but it’s all a matter of preference, comfort, and what you have consistency with. I can’t seem to bring myself to dump X/Square. If you are just starting I would recommend the triggers that way you force yourself to get comfortable with them right away. I tried switching to the triggers after already beating X/Square into my muscle memory and everything was just weird for me and I did very poorly so I’m stuck using X/Square.
 
I use triggers since they work better for GT Sport, I don't think the DS4 has pressure sensitive buttons like the DS2 did.
 
I'm always surprised at how few people know this, glad you bought it up 👍

Sony removed the pressure sensitivity from the action buttons with the launch of the Dual Shock 4. The main reason they did this was purely due to cost. What with the new controller having a touch pad, light bar, speaker etc they were eager to cut costs somewhere and as triggers had become so popular with most games they thought it wouldn't be missed.

That's why some people suddenly found driving in this current generation of games using the buttons uncomfortable or odd, it was mostly due to the fact they were unaware that they were now just full on/off buttons. It was kind of a step back imo but I guess times move on and games are developed with that in mind.

As for the question, I loved using the buttons in racing games back in the day but now its almost impossible to get used to given the reason above so I prefer the triggers now.

Or maybe because only like 3% of games actually used it . The same excuse YOU would probably use to get rid of the light bar and trackpad.

On aa side note.

Using right to accelerate/ brake is objectively stupid, you are never going to be competitive when you can't brake and accelerate at the same time. You are basically limiting yourself to accelerating / breaking with a HUGE delay relative to X/Square or the triggers or any other two button combo.
“It is amazing how many drivers, even at the Formula One Level, think that the brakes are for slowing the car down.” Mario Andretti.
 
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I've completely adapted to using R2 for throttle. I just cannot seem to get the hang of L2 for the brake. It seems way to clumsy for me to try to brake while steering with the left stick. I have mapped R1 for the brake and it feels pretty natural, except that R1 is not pressure sensitive so I am always slamming on the brakes.
 
Right stick, definitely. Triggers are for gear shifts.
I did this all the way up to and including GT6 and it was great, but before trying GT Sport I played Assetto Corsa with the triggers and X/Square as shifting and I really started to like it. In fact I had already warmed up to it with Forza 6 and Project Cars on Xbox One with the triggers and X/B for shifting (but X and Square felt even better on PS4 tbqh). So by the time GT Sport came out I tried the default triggers and X/Square shifting setup that I'd gotten use to a bit and liked it right away. I've stuck with it since and love it.

The triggers on the PS3 are not that great for throttle/brake imo, and even in GTA4 I changed to the classic X/Square for throttle/brake controls (not sure if I did for 5 though). I just didn't like the feel with the convex triggers... and back then I wasn't sure what to make the shifting buttons if R2/L2 were throttle/brake, although now it makes a lot of sense to use X/Square which are perfect imo. But either way, now that the DS4 has some solid triggers I don't see myself looking back, unless I start up GT1-6 in which case I'll use the right stick again.

So yeah, for anyone like me up to GT6, I think you can easily make the switch to triggers and like it even more.
 
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I'm always surprised at how few people know this, glad you bought it up 👍

Sony removed the pressure sensitivity from the action buttons with the launch of the Dual Shock 4. The main reason they did this was purely due to cost. What with the new controller having a touch pad, light bar, speaker etc they were eager to cut costs somewhere and as triggers had become so popular with most games they thought it wouldn't be missed.

That's why some people suddenly found driving in this current generation of games using the buttons uncomfortable or odd, it was mostly due to the fact they were unaware that they were now just full on/off buttons. It was kind of a step back imo but I guess times move on and games are developed with that in mind.

As for the question, I loved using the buttons in racing games back in the day but now its almost impossible to get used to given the reason above so I prefer the triggers now.

I had been wondering...KISS wins again i guess...

realising it was on/ off forced me to try the triggers...as good or better than the old pressure sensitive buttons. I have a T300 now, haven't dared try controller again since.
 
When you've spent years playing XBOX racers for years it's hard to go back, at the same time still having to press triangle to reverse is strange

But if i do get the chance to touch GT1-4 then i'll stick to the x square layout

It took me some time to get used to PS2s pressure sensitive face buttons
 
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