Tuner Wars by Harvey Wallbanger (First 2 battles joined 12/6/11)

[CyKosis1973]

Hey CyKosis can you lay down a few times with my Lancia?

It's on share now that I have it fully broken in.

I'm posting these here rather than the official ones, because I don't think it's fair on Dee or accurately reflective of the car. I only ran each race once. Normally I'd do each race 5 times (one full cycle of the UCD ). Tomorrow morning I'll endeavour to do so.

My biggest issue with the car was keeping the outside front from heating. If it did, the car drifted wide like a freight train. At lower speeds, or when I was suitably tucked into the apex, the other three wheels compensated and dragged the car round beautifully. But if I'd overshot my braking by even a little, wide it went.

I singularly failed to complete a suitably clean race on the tracks and in the case of Rome, I got tea-bagged by traffic on T4 for the first 4 laps..!! At London I had a touch on the wall or traffic on laps 1, 3 and 4. A touch can be as much as 1 sec per lap lost. At Fuji I got really fouled in traffic on laps 1 and 2. And so on and so on, so bear that in mind please.

Otherwise, a joyous car to drive 👍

London : Race Time 5:15.592 , MoV 9.677 secs vs Golf GTI
Autumn Ring : Race Time 7:33.727 , MoV 20.134 secs vs Golf GTI
Fuji : Race Time 10:24.670 , MoV 8.131 secs vs Mini '05
Rome : Race Time 7:13.653 , MoV 8.131 secs vs Mini '07
Eifel circuit : Race Time 5:21.706, MoV 14.038 secs vs 207 GTi

London : Race Time 5:12.670 , MoV 12.298 secs vs Golf GTI '76
Autumn Ring : Race Time 7:25.265 , MoV 16.631 secs vs Cooper S '05
Fuji : Race Time 10:19.857, MoV 15.738 secs vs 120i '04 (Cooper S `07 on pole)
Rome : Race Time 7:06.516 , MoV 13.251 secs vs 120i '04 (207 GTi '07 on pole)
Eifel circuit : Race Time 5:16.091, MoV 19.132 secs vs 207 GTi '07 (both '05 & '07 Mini on the grid)

{Cy}

 

[Onboy123]

Hey, CyKosis, one question.

What the hell is MoV?

And I'm only a 0.5 of a second from your car's time on London! I wish that race timer would stop quicker sometimes.

 

[XDesperado67]

Hey, CyKosis, one question.

What the hell is MoV?

And I'm only a 0.5 of a second from your car's time on London! I wish that race timer would stop quicker sometimes.

MoV=Margin of Victory or how far ahead of second place you finish.

@CyKosis thanks for the laps and feedback. I'll pull it off share when I get home from work and see if I can get the break point on the tires a bit better, I wasn't completely satisfied with when the various tires would overheard and break free myself.

 

[CyKosis1973]

Hey, CyKosis, one question.

What the hell is MoV?

And I'm only a 0.5 of a second from your car's time on London! I wish that race timer would stop quicker sometimes.

Wuuuut Dee said. Wasn't me that started it, that was Raver. However, it's a nice little addition as we're competing under race conditions rather than time trialling.

Nice time. If you can hit 1:02s on laps 2-4, you'll probably eclipse my time. I think I posted very low 1:03s on two laps.

@CyKosis thanks for the laps and feedback. I'll pull it off share when I get home from work and see if I can get the break point on the tires a bit better, I wasn't completely satisfied with when the various tires would overheard and break free myself.

And speaking of which, if we were pure time trialling then the issue of heating the outside front wouldn't be a problem. But under race conditions, I often find myself diving for a gap or taking an unusual line through a corner, which exacerbates it. So it's not like it's a glaring problem 👍

{Cy}

 

[Onboy123]

MoV=Margin of Victory or how far ahead of second place you finish.

@CyKosis thanks for the laps and feedback. I'll pull it off share when I get home from work and see if I can get the break point on the tires a bit better, I wasn't completely satisfied with when the various tires would overheard and break free myself.

Thanks, I spent the last two hours staring at that wondering what the bleeding hell it meant.

My car is (sort of) finished now. Would you mind testing it for me Cykosis? Bear in mind though, the gearbox was a last minute botch as I couldn't really be bothered to retune it for Fuji as driving a sub-500hp car there is so boring I would rather watch paint dry.

 

[CyKosis1973]

My car is (sort of) finished now. Would you mind testing it for me Cykosis? Bear in mind though, the gearbox was a last minute botch as I couldn't really be bothered to retune it for Fuji as driving a sub-500hp car there is so boring I would rather watch paint dry.

I'll put it on the list, good Sir. Might have to wait until tomorrow morning now. Although my wife is threatening to go out for her Work's Christmas meal tonight, so there's a chance I might be able to squeeze in a few laps 👍 I need to complete a suitably clean race for each track in Dee's Lancia as well...

{Cy}

 

[Onboy123]

CyKosis, I've just driven your Pug, and my god it's good. This thing doesn't understeer, at all. It grips so much for what it is. It's also so damn easy to drive hard, I can flick it into some turns which normally require me to lift, but this just stays on the power with no issues at all. I'm really, really struggling with faulting it…I have to say, you've done a properly good job tuning this. I cannot see a single fault with this. But what I like the most about this car is that it's so civil for a car with such a racy personality. It's still perfectly normal.

Actually, no, what I like most about this car is that it finally brought daddy Onboy a victory in GT5 after several failed races in the past, it's that easy to drive.

 

[CyKosis1973]

CyKosis, I've just driven your Pug, and my god it's good. This thing doesn't understeer, at all. It grips so much for what it is. It's also so damn easy to drive hard, I can flick it into some turns which normally require me to lift, but this just stays on the power with no issues at all. I'm really, really struggling with faulting it…I have to say, you've done a properly good job tuning this. I cannot see a single fault with this. But what I like the most about this car is that it's so civil for a car with such a racy personality. It's still perfectly normal.

Actually, no, what I like most about this car is that it finally brought daddy Onboy a victory in GT5 after several failed races in the past, it's that easy to drive.

Thank you very much. A lot of it is the car itself, its very good stock. The suspension was put together using a car that had all its weight stripped out and running on CS tyres. Curiously I found it ran better with the extra weight and obviously the SS tyres make a tremendous difference.

The biggest weakness, other than the drivetrain, is if you drag the rear wheels over grass whilst turning, it will spin, particularly at speed. Whilst breaking it in at the Nordschleife, I lost it in spectacular fashion somewhere between Hohe Acht and Wipperman..!!

Glad you enjoyed the car. I'll get on yours as soon as I can. Be warned, I've just bought Oblivion for my wife, to see if she enjoys it before I buy her Skyrim. It may be some time before I get my PS3 back

{Cy}

 

[Onboy123]

Thank you very much. A lot of it is the car itself, its very good stock. The suspension was put together using a car that had all its weight stripped out and running on CS tyres. Curiously I found it ran better with the extra weight and obviously the SS tyres make a tremendous difference.

The biggest weakness, other than the drivetrain, is if you drag the rear wheels over grass whilst turning, it will spin, particularly at speed. Whilst breaking it in at the Nordschleife, I lost it in spectacular fashion somewhere between Hohe Acht and Wipperman..!!

Glad you enjoyed the car. I'll get on yours as soon as I can. Be warned, I've just bought Oblivion for my wife, to see if she enjoys it before I buy her Skyrim. It may be some time before I get my PS3 back

{Cy}

Oh I know what you mean about the spinning out at speed. I have this 500PP Renault Megane, it drives perfectly well offline on SS tyres, but the moment I take it to Spa online and slap on some RS slicks, the thing will go through Eau Rouge 90 degrees sideways, flatout.

And good luck getting the PS3 back. It'll be tough, I can almost guarantee.

And also, I didn't just take my car off share and retune the gearbox before putting it back on share, no such thing has happened.

 

[CyKosis1973]

And good luck getting the PS3 back. It'll be tough, I can almost guarantee.

And also, I didn't just take my car off share and retune the gearbox before putting it back on share, no such thing has happened.

She's got to sleep at some point

I most definitely didn't just see you sign off on PSN

{Cy}

 

[-raVer-]

Had a go with a nearly stock car (had to add some weight and oil light was on) on SS tyres with 116 bhp , 950kg , 367 PP .

Won London , Rome and Eifel by a Margin over 5 seconds.

edit:
Won Fuji too with a Foto Finish ( 0.023 seconds ) vs Cooper `05.


raVer

 

[Onboy123]

She's got to sleep at some point

I most definitely didn't just see you sign off on PSN

{Cy}

Lock her in her room!!

Yes you did, GT5 is screwing with me....10 minutes loading the Seasonal list!!!

Edit: Guys…what the hell happened to all the cars that were on share? Despy's Delta's not on either of his accounts and neither is Krenkme's car on share.

 

[CyKosis1973]

Lock her in her room!!

Yes you did, GT5 is screwing with me....10 minutes loading the Seasonal list!!!

Edit: Guys…what the hell happened to all the cars that were on share? Despy's Delta's not on either of his accounts and neither is Krenkme's car on share.

I've got my PS3 back for five minutes and I can't see your car Onboy. All I can see if your Merc, a big arsed pickup and what looks like a Honda Beat

I better find something else to build for Hot Hatch races...

{Cy}

 

[Onboy123]

I've got my PS3 back for five minutes and I can't see your car Onboy. All I can see if your Merc, a big arsed pickup and what looks like a Honda Beat

I better find something else to build for Hot Hatch races...

{Cy}

Oh wait a bit…I think something glitched up with my sharing thing…that, and could you test both setup A and B/ There's nothing different between them apart from the parts list. And the diff.

I've got something as well…

 

[krenkme]

Edit: Guys…what the hell happened to all the cars that were on share? Despy's Delta's not on either of his accounts and neither is Krenkme's car on share.

Sorry, I took it off to run some times. It's back up if you, or anyone else would like to try it 👍

Please.

 

[Onboy123]

Sorry, I took it off to run some times. It's back up if you, or anyone else would like to try it 👍

Please.

Nope.

Nah, I kid. I'll try it after I retune the 110S that you seemed to have an issue with…

 

[krenkme]

Nope.

Nah, I kid. I'll try it after I retune the 110S that you seemed to have an issue with…

Thanks.

A retune is not neceassary, just maybe a challange at the "'Ring" to see who's better

BTW hows the MR cars coming?

 

[Onboy123]

Thanks.

A retune is not neceassary, just maybe a challange at the "'Ring" to see who's better

BTW hows the MR cars coming?

No problem.

You wish. I hate that thing on the 'Ring.

I kinda gave up on the AutoZam…can't get it to feel right…that and the fact that I'm now tuning a much more exciting Corvette.

 

[XDesperado67]

Thanks.

A retune is not neceassary, just maybe a challange at the "'Ring" to see who's better

BTW hows the MR cars coming?

Okay my Lancia is back on share after I made a couple adjustments to it. Still not 100% satisfied but is better than it was.

I'll try and get my Beat Z on share tonight. Turning 1:28s - low 1:29s at Deep Forest currently on Sports Softs at 420PP.
The best time for the seasonal race is currently 4:31.xxx because of the first lap traffic. Think I can get a sub 4:30 though with a little more adjustment and some luck on the field. (hate coming around a corner to find the AI 2 or 3 wide across the track in front of me.)

Not sure if the unlimited tune on RS tires will be much better as the weight distribution all goes to the back end without the ballast. I actually put the wing on the 420PP version because my ballast reduced the PP below 420.

 

[krenkme]

Okay my Lancia is back on share after I made a couple adjustments to it. Still not 100% satisfied but is better than it was.

I'll try and get my Beat Z on share tonight. Turning 1:28s - low 1:29s at Deep Forest currently on Sports Softs at 420PP.
The best time for the seasonal race is currently 4:31.xxx because of the first lap traffic. Think I can get a sub 4:30 though with a little more adjustment and some luck on the field. (hate coming around a corner to find the AI 2 or 3 wide across the track in front of me.)

Not sure if the unlimited tune on RS tires will be much better as the weight distribution all goes to the back end without the ballast. I actually put the wing on the 420PP version because my ballast reduced the PP below 420.

I've been busy with a Holiday gift that Clueless tunes will be giving to GTP soon, so I haven't spent much time with the AZ. But my fully tuned Beat Z is ready and so is the 420pp tune. Will try to get them on share tomorrow of Tuesday 👍. I'm just not happy with the way the AZ-1 is turning out

Also my "mini-Merc" is on share if anyone wants to try it. It's not as fast as the Pug, and I didn't try the Delta or Onboys yet, but it is a fun little car to drive. I might try and tune a Opel Tigra at 400pp some day as well

 

[Onboy123]

I've been busy with a Holiday gift that Clueless tunes will be giving to GTP soon, so I haven't spent much time with the AZ. But my fully tuned Beat Z is ready and so is the 420pp tune. Will try to get them on share tomorrow of Tuesday 👍. I'm just not happy with the way the AZ-1 is turning out

Also my "mini-Merc" is on share if anyone wants to try it. It's not as fast as the Pug, and I didn't try the Delta or Onboys yet, but it is a fun little car to drive. I might try and tune a Opel Tigra at 400pp some day as well

I'm bored with my AZ-1. I want it to be a easy thing to drive as the Beat is going to be the driver's car, but it's just not working…unless you want me to go nuts with it and make it a bit of a murderer, that is.

 

[-raVer-]

I'm bored with my AZ-1. I want it to be a easy thing to drive as the Beat is going to be the driver's car, but it's just not working…unless you want me to go nuts with it and make it a bit of a murderer, that is.

If you bored , try something like the Electric Dream err.. kettle from RKM.

ssssssssssssssssssss....



raVer

 

[Onboy123]

If you bored , try something like the Electric Dream err.. kettle from RKM.

ssssssssssssssssssss....



raVer

Yea, but that sssss noise is coming from my sizzling rage as I hate driving sub-100hp cars. They put me to sleep.

 

[-raVer-]

And then you have to put that car on SS tyres , go to practice mode and One make race.

Be sure you have real grip and F/T depl on and Lap set to 1.

Now comes the best:

Lap the `Ring in under 10min30sec with at least 2 wheels between the white llines all the time.


If you can manage this (with replay proof) , I shoot you a car of your choice (Inside the trade limit and availlable )


raVer

 

[CyKosis1973]

Right, I've got an evening slot to test some EURO HOT HATCHES tonight. Hopefully Krenkme, xDee and Onboy's cars are on share. Onboy, I'm not sure I'll have time to test both A & B setup, so if I can't, do you have a preference as to which one I test??

I'll endeavour to give each car one clean race at each track 👍

{Cy}

EDIT:

And then you have to put that car on SS tyres , go to practice mode and One make race.

Be sure you have real grip and F/T depl on and Lap set to 1.

Now comes the best:

Lap the `Ring in under 10min30sec with at least 2 wheels between the white llines all the time.

If you can manage this (with replay proof) , I shoot you a car of your choice (Inside the trade limit and availlable)

THIS CAR?? No promises I'll hit the required time, but if I do, you can be sure you'll hear about it

Got to take care of the above commitments first though...

 

[-raVer-]

Right, I've got an evening slot to test some EURO HOT HATCHES tonight. Hopefully Krenkme, xDee and Onboy's cars are on share. Onboy, I'm not sure I'll have time to test both A & B setup, so if I can't, do you have a preference as to which one I test??

I'll endeavour to give each car one clean race at each track 👍

{Cy}

EDIT:



THIS CAR?? No promises I'll hit the required time, but if I do, you can be sure you'll hear about it

Got to take care of the above commitments first though...

Yep , the I-MieV.


raVer

 

[CyKosis1973]

I'll no doubt be able to find some time over the Festive Season. Can I trust you've had a go at it yourself and that 10:30 is a time a mortal like myself might realistically achieve..??

{Cy}

 

[XDesperado67]

@CyKosis both the 400PP Lancia and my 420PP Beat Z are on share, or at least should be.

Will hopefully have a 420PP AZ-1 on share by some point today.👍👍

The Beat Z is a little screamer, I was hitting close to 130mph on the start/finish straight at Deep Forest in the Lightweight K seasonal and topping 120mph at a couple other spots.

 

[Onboy123]

Right, I've got an evening slot to test some EURO HOT HATCHES tonight. Hopefully Krenkme, xDee and Onboy's cars are on share. Onboy, I'm not sure I'll have time to test both A & B setup, so if I can't, do you have a preference as to which one I test??

I'll endeavour to give each car one clean race at each track 👍
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Umm…Cykosis, just test tune A. B is only there because I wanted to see which settings 'felt' faster.

I'll no doubt be able to find some time over the Festive Season. Can I trust you've had a go at it yourself and that 10:30 is a time a mortal like myself might realistically achieve..??

{Cy}

Nope, but I can trust that by the 10 minute mark, it'll have run out of juice and be going by the forces of gravity instead.

 

[-raVer-]

I'll no doubt be able to find some time over the Festive Season. Can I trust you've had a go at it yourself and that 10:30 is a time a mortal like myself might realistically achieve..??

{Cy}

I had a go and believe me it is realistic.


raVer