TVR planning a comeback with U.S sourced V8 power

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HP/L is worthless though. I'm pretty sure that the LS7 is light weight; that would be important for a FR car with low mass if they want to keep the weight off the front wheels.
 
Who said anything about HP/Liter? I didn't. LS7 also has reliability issues.
 
Who said anything about HP/Liter? I didn't. LS7 also has reliability issues.

Googling "LS7 Problems" gave me two relevant threads. One with a guy who leaned out and tore up a piston in an LS7 powered GT40 replica. The other one speculating that

"I heard from a source that I consider to be reliable that there are some mechanical issues with the LS7 engine that will be announced shortly... This is all the info he would give me... has anyone heard anything about this?!?!?"


And there haven't been any recalls on the LS7. So what are you on about?
 
On corvetteforums there have been few reports about failed rocker arms and insufficient lubrication during track driving.
 
Eh...I prefer TVR to build their own engines, but if they have to drop a boring ol' crate in it, they probably should.

Why not make it a Mopar Crate, though?
I don't believe TVR have ever properly made thier own engines. They have modified engines themselves, the AJP6 and AJP8 were built by Melling Power, not TVR. Melling Power design and build engines for a lot of companies. Sometimes the engines get signed off to the manufacturer as part of the deal but the AP6 and 8 as far as I'm aware are property of Melling Power. Perhaps TVR could lay claim to the V12 they used in the Speed 12 as thier own. It was essentially two AJP6's modified and bolted together (to put it simply) but I think that probably qualifies as an all new engine.

The AJP8 was avery powerful but perhaps too highly strung piece, the AJP6 was much more user friendly and far more reliable than the 8. I'm not actually against the idea of using an American engine, we all know that once you tune it to how you want it to perform and bolt it onto your own choice of intake and exhaust systems that you can make it feel unique. It's nice to have a properly unique engine, makes it kind of more special, but I'm far from expecting that to happen anytime in the forseable future.

I've known about TVR coming back for a while, but it was supposed to have already happened. They've had a small site near Lytham for a while now but no manufacturing has been going on. Seems to have been planning and possibly a design studio that was kept open.

On a note about which engine they might use, I don't know about them using the LS7, unless you can get them much less than 7 litres. I'm not totally up to speed on American engines and which is best for what and so forth, I know the LS7 is a beast of an engine and can be tuned like mad, but 7 litres on a standard TVR is probabyl shooting UK sales in the face before it's even rolled off the production line. A 7 litre flagship car maybe, but I should imagine that they will need cars with engines in and around the 4-5 litre capacity to get the best balance between positioning the model range and sales.
 
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An LS7 with reliability issues? Riiiight. I don't think any current American V8s have reliability issues, let's see how the new 5.0L does after a while.
 
On corvetteforums there have been few reports about failed rocker arms and insufficient lubrication during track driving.

Both curable with a better oiling system than is on there currently. I've been hearing of issues with the dry sump system on the LS7 for quite a while. Of course, it only seems to happen on the racetrack... for (unmolested) street use, it's a perfectly robust motor.
 
I'd like to see them running the new aluminum V8 out of the new GT500. Although those fancy cylinder liners may cause some issues in a TVR.

Also, what's wrong with American power? TVRs have used American power frequently in the past...
 
So, TVR essentially has six different choices:

General Motors:
  • 6.2L LSA - Supercharged, 550 BHP ( CTS-V)
  • 7.0L LS7 - N/A, 505-525 BHP (Corvette Z06)

Ford:
  • 5.4L C54 - Supercharged, 500 BHP (GT500)
  • 5.0L R50 - N/A, 400+ BHP (FR500C)

Mopar:
  • 6.4L HEMI - N/A (EFI), 525 BHP (Crate Only)
  • 6.1L HEMI - N/A, 425 BHP (Challenger SRT-8, et. al)


The Mopar 392 HEMI would be a very interesting choice, but the Chevy LS7 is probably the safe bet. Although, I'd like to see that Ford Cammer (R50) get in something other than a Mustang...

Which of these is the lightest engine? Actually, where can I even find such information? I'm betting it's the GM LS series, anyway, but non-supercharged. Rather, I'm hoping it is, as I would prefer my TVR's as light as possible. :crazy:


It needs a Rover V8.

Don't you mean 'Buick V8'?
 
I wasn't, being entirely, serious.

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I saw it first. :grumpy:

I don't know, how many people, caught this, but I found it.

Humorous.

"2010 GTP Most Likely To Be Wheeled Off To The Nut House Award" goes to TVR&FF?
 
I wouldn't be suprised if the new TVR looked somethnig like this.
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That's an official render of a car TVR were going to call the Typhoon that was in the works right before the company dissipated. So I wouldn't be suprised if the new car looked similar, then again this being TVR I wouldn't be suprised if the new car looked like noting I've seen before.
 
Nissan RBs are much too much heavy, comparable to iron block V8s from what I understand. Modern US alloy V8s are pretty light.

That rendering needs a new nose job.
 
Not to mention, the RB is out of production...

Fact is, a crate motor package is easy because it's just plug and play for the most part. It's why these shows like "Overhaulin'" use them exclusively. The development work of "Bespoke" parts has already been done. It's going to be reliable, make lots of power, and install quick.

The problem I think a lot of people have is that TVR is a bit more than a typical kitcar manufacturer. They've been around since long before "Crate Motor" became an industry buzzword, and built their own engines for awhile. Going the easy way out seems a bit cheap...even though other manufacturers use other manufacturer's engines (Zonda V12? Lotus 2ZZ-GE?) that aren't available to the general public.
 
Not to mention, the RB is out of production...

Fact is, a crate motor package is easy because it's just plug and play for the most part. It's why these shows like "Overhaulin'" use them exclusively. The development work of "Bespoke" parts has already been done. It's going to be reliable, make lots of power, and install quick.

The problem I think a lot of people have is that TVR is a bit more than a typical kitcar manufacturer. They've been around since long before "Crate Motor" became an industry buzzword, and built their own engines for awhile. Going the easy way out seems a bit cheap...even though other manufacturers use other manufacturer's engines (Zonda V12? Lotus 2ZZ-GE?) that aren't available to the general public.
There's a few things wrong with your post, firstly TVR isn't your typical kit car company becuase they arn't a kit car company, they are a proper manufacturer. Secondly the only engine TVR ever really made themselves was the Speed 12's V12 and even that was essentially only two AJP6's bolted together. They were heavilly modified ofcourse, but that's essentially what that engine was. The AJP8 and AJP6 engines were designed and manufactured by Melling Power, not TVR. TVR have never had the facility to built thier own engines, they've always outsourced for this be it the Rover V8, Kent, Essex V6 or the AJP6 and 8 engines, none were designed and built inhouse by TVR. The AJP8 and 6's were more specific to TVR but they were still designed and built by Melling Power..

That's why I have no issue with this news that TVR might outsource the engine for thier next car, shock horror, it's only what they've always done. Building your own engine for a low volume car is highly impracticle and very costly, if they could build an engine and source that engine to other companies then there may be a reason for TVR to start making thier own engines, but that's a very unlikely scenerio.
 
There's a few things wrong with your post, firstly TVR isn't your typical kit car company becuase they arn't a kit car company, they are a proper manufacturer. Secondly the only engine TVR ever really made themselves was the Speed 12's V12 and even that was essentially only two AJP6's bolted together. They were heavilly modified ofcourse, but that's essentially what that engine was. The AJP8 and AJP6 engines were designed and manufactured by Melling Power, not TVR. TVR have never had the facility to built thier own engines, they've always outsourced for this be it the Rover V8, Kent, Essex V6 or the AJP6 and 8 engines, none were designed and built inhouse by TVR. The AJP8 and 6's were more specific to TVR but they were still designed and built by Melling Power..

That's why I have no issue with this news that TVR might outsource the engine for thier next car, shock horror, it's only what they've always done. Building your own engine for a low volume car is highly impracticle and very costly, if they could build an engine and source that engine to other companies then there may be a reason for TVR to start making thier own engines, but that's a very unlikely scenerio.

I never intended to imply that they were, but (especially here,) they tend to have that same sort of little british rattly kit-like car reputation. As well, if the AJP series engines were designed by Melling, but only used in a production scenario by TVR, doesn't that basically count as TVR using a unique engine to their make?

and who got you up on the wrong side of the bed? It's not like I'm disagreeing with you that it's not a bad thing. Usually, it isn't. Hell, GM, Ford, and Chrysler aren't the only ones who make motors in a box available to the public...Roush makes Ford-based engines, as do several other manufacturers like World Products (all three) and Keith Black (Hemis), all plug-and-play stuff, easy to install.
 
I wouldn't be suprised if the new TVR looked somethnig like this.
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That's an official render of a car TVR were going to call the Typhoon that was in the works right before the company dissipated. So I wouldn't be suprised if the new car looked similar, then again this being TVR I wouldn't be suprised if the new car looked like noting I've seen before.[/QUOTE]

That looks quite sexy to be honest. 8)
 
I never intended to imply that they were, but (especially here,) they tend to have that same sort of little british rattly kit-like car reputation. As well, if the AJP series engines were designed by Melling, but only used in a production scenario by TVR, doesn't that basically count as TVR using a unique engine to their make?
The specific state of tune used on road TVR's is unique to TVR, but melling sell thoes engines for competition use and there is nothing preventing them from appearing in other road cars othe than manufacturers wanting them. The engine is also available in the Melling Wildcat. Which I love btw.
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and who got you up on the wrong side of the bed? It's not like I'm disagreeing with you that it's not a bad thing. Usually, it isn't. Hell, GM, Ford, and Chrysler aren't the only ones who make motors in a box available to the public...Roush makes Ford-based engines, as do several other manufacturers like World Products (all three) and Keith Black (Hemis), all plug-and-play stuff, easy to install.
Apologies, I didn't mean to come across as though I was annoyed or being grumpy at you :lol:. The "shock horror" was only meant as dramatic license. The curse of the keyboad response I suppose.

And yes, you are right, a lot of people are only thinking of two or three American engines that the new TVR could end up using but there are quite a few possiblities. We'll have to see I guess.
 
TVR mistique and LSD-weird style with american-V8 muscle = WIN on all levels. And imagine how many TVRs will surface making 700 hp with a cam, headers and repro. And with "kooks", "Flowmaster" and "Comp" stickers underhood (:
 
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Given how mass produced US V8s are this should also lower the price no?:cool:
 
I doubt it, not here anyway mbut maybe in the US. TVR's were already priced brilliantly for what they were. For example a TVR Sagaris could cut a base Corvette by up to £5k and it's a quicker car than the Corvette. With models starting from £35k TVR had most of the competition beaten on price already, particularly the presige badges like Porsche.
 
Well that is pretty good then, since we don't get TVRs in Australia (:() I always figured they'd have to be pricey since they were rather exclusive.
 
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