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Show you where it is? You lazy fu**, search Google. Your the one who's trying to deny the KING! :lol:

The Tsukuba page is in Japanese, but the #'s, and the name's of the cars are not.
 
Where are the #'s and the cars? I can't see **** on this gibberish page....Japans cool and all but this language just aint cuttin it.
 
you re a loser and i dont like you. why is the 2jz not a good engine? becuase it is able to support 300rwkw very easily on stock internals? becuase no matter how much u fuc k with the tuning, its giant stroke is going to give u some low revving power? i dont understand.
 
Lol....Did I ever say it was a BAD engine?...No, I said it wasn't the best inline 6 japan has the offer...sure it makes GREAT #'s...no denying that, but the fact that the Supra TT is one of a handful of cars where stock for stock the Automatic version is both quicker and faster than the manual version, and the fact that no one uses the engine outside of drag racing.
 
Neither of the two things you said are facts..

Here's a fact though... The 2jzgte is the KING!

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yeah it is...and that I've seen visual proof of......The Supra's automatic transmission is that light, not to mention the lack of wheelspin.....stock vs stock the auto supra pulls faster 1/4 times and you can't deny it
 
I don't have to deny it, I can get proof.

Any decent driver with a manual mk4, will win 3 times out of 4. Thats from what I've seen at my local track, and the Supra's Invade Las Vegas events.

What do you drive?
 
what the hell are you talking about driftser? the manual mk4 is significantly faster than the auto. wheres some evidence of your ludicrous claim? what the hell do u mean no one uses the 2jzgte? by that logic, no one uses the rb26dett...? we're talking inline 6's here man, name a better japanese one.
 
Originally posted by drift_prophet
what the hell are you talking about driftser? the manual mk4 is significantly faster than the auto. wheres some evidence of your ludicrous claim?

Well for 1, the Automatics ECU learns your driving habits, therefore modifies the shiftpoints.(since at 0 miles on the car, the cars run exactly the same 1/4 exactly the same 0-60 times....Once the computer learns new shift points it will only improve the automatics time).....Second, the Automatic supra stays "in boost".....Third, with ANY ...I mean ANY supra with more than 400HP, the auto will smoke a 6 speed 90% of the time...
what the hell do u mean no one uses the 2jzgte? by that logic, no one uses the rb26dett...?
The RB26DETT and 2jzGTE have completly different characteristics buddy, if you think they're just knock offs of one another thrown into competative cars you're way off....I mean hell, just look at the the redlines between the 2 stock...Which one's higher? The Rb26, which makes it a more practical road racer, than the lower revving 2jz-gte.....Don't get me wrong, no where did I say the 2jz-gte is a BAD engine, but like I said a couple of times....The only time it's put to use, is in the 1/4 and the dyno....But the Rb is put to use in the 1/4...on the dyno...on the race track...in rally's, pretty much anywhere..So yeah the supra's got balls....But it's 1/2 as versatile as the Rb26DETT......And versatility makes for a good engine.....not straight line power......If you're trying to argue for straight line power, you shouldn't even be bothering with talking about japanese engines.
 
That's where your confused, no one is talking about drag racing. If we were, and being's you keep bringing up what people in the U.S use the Supra for, I'll bring up what people in the U.S use Skylines for. Drag racing. Not the dyno, not a roadcourse, just drag racing. And they get OWNED by Supra's.

I've seen only a few Supra's in the American GT series, but I've seen ZERO Skylines. Coincidence?
 
Maybe it's because Skylines cost to much for America, maybe that's why? Maybe because they arn't legal in the united states?.......And we're talking about the engine not the car anyway....And what is this "owned by supra's" crap...

Tell me..how many US tuners have built skylines?

And is there anywhere saying where these supra's raced..and what place they got? and what they went up against?
 
Originally posted by Driftster
And what is this "owned by supra's" crap...

Tell me..how many US tuners have built skylines?

What's with Supra's owning Skylines? Go to Palmdale raceway, or anywhere else where Skylines are prevelent. They get balled on.

Skylines don't have to be legal to race in any country. And they are legal after you go through the legalization/vin process.

How many U.S tuners have built Skylines? Hmm.. Off the top of my head.... I've seen roughly 15 R34's, 8-10 R33's, and about a dozen R32's. 3-4 of the Skylines I've seen in person, have been featured in magazines in the last two years. For the most part, the people who have the money to buy/tune a Skyline in the U.S are somewhat wealthy/private individuals.

Is any of this relevant to the 2jzgte being the KING of IL6's? No, but it's funny to see someone try and argue it. :lol:
 
Originally posted by Driftster
Oh and last time I checked..the fastest streetable Skyline was faster than the fastest streetable supra..

Too bad that Skyline was run in the almost perfect air of Japan. In the U.S, that Skylines #'s dont exist.

If you had just a little knowledge about Japanese drag/wangan cars, you would know they are not as fast in America. Take the U.S's fastest Supra to Japan and watch it's e.t's drop.

Another baseless statement by Driftster!! C'mon man, your turning in to MileFile... :lol:
 
Exvitermini is based in japan? since when? because the exvitermini skyline is still street class.......beats the titan motorsports supra...and the bullish....arnt those the fastest 2 street supra's?
and if the perfect air of japan is the best place to get times...how come japanese tuners havnt beat that with a supra yet?...explain that to me
 
If you didn't go off topic so much, I wouldn't have to keep explaining to you why the 2jzgte is so dominant. I realize it comes as a shock to you, and maybe you need some quiet time to yourself to come to terms with how insanely overly built, and undeniably strong and versitile the 2jz is, and maybe you should take that time now...

Just light a few candles, dim the lights, and ponder how the 2jzgte is the KING!!!

And you were talking about JAPAN, which means you would of been talking about VeilSide's Skyline. Not the Kiwi's.

"how come japanese tuners havnt beat that with a supra yet?"
The real world isn't Gran Turismo, tuning can't be done in 5 minutes.
 
Originally posted by Driftster

And we're talking about the engine not the car anyway....

:lol:

Originally posted by Driftster

the exvitermini skyline is still street class.......beats the titan motorsports supra...and the bullish....arnt those the fastest 2 street supra's?

Just because it runs on the street, doesnt mean it has to abide by the rules the Titan and Bullish Supras do. The Ex Vi Termini Skyline runs in an "unlimited class." The two Supras you talk about, have rules that the Ex V Skyline doesnt.
 
^hahah what interests me is his claim that the rb26 is higher revving therefore better for track work. haha man, do u have any idea what your saying? AT ANY LEVEL OF TUNE (similar between 2jz and rb26) THE 2JZ MAKES MORE TORQUE. this means, more tyre turning grunt for exiting turns and what have you. juyst because it makes no difference for the worlds best drivers doesnt mean its not better. having a wider, more usable band of torque is better in anyones books. added to this the fact that the 2jz does indeed rev, and i can see your clearly not worthy of discussing this topic. u still havent named a better JAPANESE inline 6. name one and ill consider your worth.
 
Drift prophet..... You're explaination is retarded...More torque leads to more tire spin on the exits, and durring the corner....If you have to much torque...you're not going to be able to apply as much throttle in the corner or you will have wheelspin.......Abrupt power, leads to loss of control........The 2jz just isn't a track engine, and you know it........If it was people would use it...so stop sitting there in denial saying "it's the best i6 track engine" aswell.......It's a great engine....but not the best...
 
Originally posted by drift_prophet
^hahah what interests me is his claim that the rb26 is higher revving therefore better for track work. haha man, do u have any idea what your saying

Oh you're right..REVS have nothing to do with speed....What is formula one thinking? they are soo stupid...They would be so much faster if they redlined at 4,000 rpm's...Who needs 11 & 12,000
THE 2JZ MAKES MORE TORQUE. this means, more tyre turning grunt for exiting turns and what have you. juyst because it makes no difference for the worlds best drivers doesnt mean its not better.
Have you ever thought why the S2000 is a great track car?
Ever wonder why the Miata is a good track car, ever wonder why Civic's are good track cars, ever wonder why all the high revving cars make great track cars?? It's because they focus on revvs as apposed to Low end Bs....Low end + track = not the greatest combo......If you can have an engine that is 1/4 as likely to fall out of the power band...An engine that can have hard acceleration in a corner instead of just being able to pull in a corner......As you said TORQUE to PULL out of a corner......Alright..You take a car that redlines at 6900(7000 with coaxing) with 312 ft lbs of torque and 280 HP Vs a car with 230ft lbs and 330HP that redlines at 8200RPM......Gaurentee you the 8200RPM car wins....I can put money on that actually....
having a wider, more usable band of torque is better in anyones books.
Lol.....Ok explain to me, since they both get their torque at the same time....and one has more revs...doesn't that make the Rb26 have a wider, more usable band of torque?
added to this the fact that the 2jz does indeed rev, and i can see your clearly not worthy of discussing this topic. u still havent named a better JAPANESE inline 6. name one and ill consider your worth.

I just named a better inline 6..........Don't deny it
 
u idiot. the 2jz is FAR from a low revving, tractor engine. who ever said that? i think ull find the 2jz revs pretty ****en hard mate. it COMBINES the pulling power of torque and the insanity of top end spin that these small bore i6s are famous for. the 2jz has the torque to fill the bottom end whole that implementing a large turbo charger (trust t88-34d/ or twin t78s in the jun supra;s case) can create. the rb26dett will struggle slightly in the bottom end and lower midrange, whereas the 2jz will roar onto boost. youre a fool if you EVER thought the 2jz is a low rpm chugger. hahaha almost makes me laugh.

loser.

anyone that claims to know that the rb26dett is better than the 2jz should have some theoretcial or FACTUAL evidence to back their claim.
 
I've given my factual evidence....all you've said was derogitory comments towards my person, stop repeating what you say over and over, and give ME some facts.
 
You take a car that redlines at 6900(7000 with coaxing) with 312 ft lbs of torque and 280 HP Vs a car with 230ft lbs and 330HP that redlines at 8200RPM......Gaurentee you the 8200RPM car wins....I can put money on that actually....

How much money? And where do you live? :D
 
^buddy, im making more than derogatory comments. u stated that the 2jz is a low revving tractor engine, when quite slearly thats far from the case. the only reason i prefer the 2jz over the rb26 is at any given state of tune, it will produce more torque earlier, yet still rev out happily making shi tloads of top end sting.
 
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