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Ferrari != F1 last time I checked. I'm pretty sure Ferrari's race in numerous other motorsports and make cars driven on the road.

This already looks like it's going to be a lame episode four door sports cars that are all ugly and pointless and Hammond going on and on about how much he loves the Camaro because it's a muscle car. Plus some goofy looking Harry Potter person. Add the F1 segment into it and it makes it worse in my opinion.
Then don't watch the damn episode if that's how you're going to judge it before it's even aired. :rolleyes:
 
When did people get so freakin' touchy on GTP?

I'll watch it at some point, but I it's not one I'm looking forward too as much as some other episodes. Like episode 4 looks like it will be better since it's supposed to have the RV challenge thing in it, supposedly. I'm just giving my opinion on the summary, surely that's what's allowed in this thread.
 
When did people get so freakin' touchy on GTP?

I'll watch it at some point, but I it's not one I'm looking forward too as much as some other episodes. Like episode 4 looks like it will be better since it's supposed to have the RV challenge thing in it, supposedly. I'm just giving my opinion on the summary, surely that's what's allowed in this thread.
You're acting like it's going to be one of the worst episodes ever just because it's got cars you don't like & a F1 driver that, somehow, makes it an F1 episode.

Who cares if the cars are ugly, its the challenge itself that should be worth watching. Not like this series is a completely factual source of info on which of the 3 four doors is the best buy.
 
I watched an episode of Fifth Gear this morning. Vicki B-H was test driving a new BMW 5 Series in the French Pyrenees. She was sat in a lay-by whilst calling up BMW Connect-Drive asking where the nearest Audi garage was......




































.....damn, that's the second time I've fallen asleep unexpectedly today.
*goes off to set recorder for Top Gear*
 
You're acting like it's going to be one of the worst episodes ever just because it's got cars you don't like & a F1 driver that, somehow, makes it an F1 episode.

Who cares if the cars are ugly, its the challenge itself that should be worth watching. Not like this series is a completely factual source of info on which of the 3 four doors is the best buy.

How in the world did you get that out of anything I wrote?

I think it's going to be a lame episode, it might not be. I just wrote, based on the information we have currently, it looks like it's going to be bad or at least not as good as previous episodes this season. Therefore I'm not looking forward to it.

And based on previous Top Gear episodes with F1 drives something gets cut short, typically something that could be good, to make room for the F1 driver interview.
 
Plus some goofy looking Harry Potter person. Add the F1 segment into it and it makes it worse in my opinion.

OI, you leave Rupert alone!

Although I can't quite work out why they're suddenly putting a Camaro up against an E Class. Seems a bit of an odd match beyond them both having V8s and stupid amounts of power.
 
Ferrari != F1 last time I checked. I'm pretty sure Ferrari's race in numerous other motorsports and make cars driven on the road.
It almost does. Their road cars are a way to make money to go racing.

When did people get so freakin' touchy on GTP?
You wrote-off the whole episode, because there is a short interview with an F1 driver, someone who can actually drive a car around a track.
 
How in the world did you get that out of anything I wrote?
You're the one who said it was an F1 episode because of 1 driver that's a guest. You also said the cars were ugly & pointless, so obviously, you don't care for them.

I think it's going to be a lame episode, it might not be. I just wrote, based on the information we have currently, it looks like it's going to be bad or at least not as good as previous episodes this season. Therefore I'm not looking forward to it.
It might be, it might not. But you seem to have completely written it off as such.

I think the challenge will be worth watching & Rubens should be interesting. Not going to care for Rupert though.

And based on previous Top Gear episodes with F1 drives something gets cut short, typically something that could be good, to make room for the F1 driver interview.[/QUOTE]
 
I wasn't aware I was allowed to have an opinion based on a summary. My apologies fellas.
 
This already looks like it's going to be a lame episode four door sports cars that are all ugly and pointless and Hammond going on and on about how much he loves the Camaro because it's a muscle car. Plus some goofy looking Harry Potter person. Add the F1 segment into it and it makes it worse in my opinion.

One man's loss is the other man's gain I suppose, as those "four door sports cars" or as I prefer to call them "supersaloons" is something I'm looking out for to be honest.
But I'll have to catch this episode later this week as it's aired the same time as the World Cup final which includes my nation's team ( a once in a lifetime occurence I'm not gonna miss ).:)
 
You did make it clear you were less than happy with the magazine than the television program, granted.

Beyond that your comments just suggest that if no one agrees with you then they are sexist, racist and idiotic, but not homophobic? Why hold back?

I don’t watch car videos on You Tube and I’ve never read any comments on there either. From what you are suggesting, it sounds much the same as the comments you find on Yahoo in the news stories. If you want to post and read them I’ll not judge you on that, however, I do expect you to explain why I’m racist and sexist? Seriously? Are you just annoyed because I don’t agree with you and because I don’t conform to your wide brushed stereotypical viewpoints?

:rolleyes:

I've broken down your comment into relevant sections, I'll cover the rest in a second.

You aren't racist or sexist. I thought I made myself reasonably clear but apparently not. I was actually doing you a favour - I was saying that your general sentiment was similar to that of the comments you find on youtube, only without the racism, sexism, idiocy and other negative points that most youtube commenters have.

But congratulations on turning a compliment into a full blown insult, that's a pretty special ability.

I’ve not really read the magazine other than the occasional quick flick through whilst waiting on the barber; I stopped poring over car articles long before I was able to actually buy a car too. I do however enjoy the fact that I can choose whether or not to buy the magazine, an option open to you I’m sure.

Obviously.

But given that I spent several hundred pounds several years ago as a subscriber, it's a pity to thoroughly trash a once very good magazine as much as they have. I'd like to read Top Gear again, but only when it stops being like an awful parody of a car mag.

As for Top Gear being a program made for the people and not solely for you, I don’t see your point. Unless you are suggesting that you must join some special alliance of car enthusiasts, such as the Robin Reliant owners club….(there is nothing wrong with that if you are ;) ), in which case you are wrong. You do not have to have an encyclopaedic mind of car statistics to enjoy them, in fact, to enjoy them for what they are, you are probably better off not having one.

I genuinely have no idea how you interpreted what I said into what you've written above. The bits I think you've been reading (it's hard to tell given how vastly different what you've read to what I actually typed seems to be), are these comments I made earlier:

My objection to Top Gear isn't with the program, it's with a great many of the people who watch it. I'm obviously not referring to most of GTP, as many here are able to take it for what it is - car based entertainment - rather than the sole factual source of everything they know about cars (that said, there are a few on GTP who do seem perilously close to being like that...)

Translation: The show is car-based entertainment. My objection is with people who treat it as their sole source of knowlege for cars, rather than just a bit of larking about. If you glean all your car knowledge from TG you'd end up with a horrifically patchy knowledge of cars.

Actually, no. That's it. I can't find anything else in what I wrote that would make you think what you wrote. I can barely understand the point you're making in the first place.

To clarify ‘motoring’, to me it’s about getting out in your car and exploring, finding new places, going on journeys, short or long. It’s not about admiring your reflection in the pristine paint work of the car parked up in your garage because it’s ‘looking like rain’ on the horizon.

What Top Gear does is show what you can do with motorised transport, take the special programs where they cross continents or take cars where they have never been before or ride bikes…..etc etc.

Ah, so now we're interpreting what words mean.

Okay then, to me, "motoring" is anything to do with cars. And using my interpretation, Fifth Gear and others are all motoring programs.

And it's still not an "advertising platform", whichever definition you use.

There is nothing subtle about reading out a dealership crib sheet whilst driving in an exotic climate because, it misses the point and wastes production budgets to boot. TG gives you the information you need and doesn’t bore you with the anorak data that, unless it helps you brush up on your Top Trumps prowess on average and boring cars is, pretty useless in my opinion.

Again, you have me completely confused.

5th Gear don't just razz off to some Alpine pass or the middle of a desert on a whim, the reason they'll test a particular car in a particular location is because the company has held the launch there. It's the same reason you see cars on foreign plates in car magazines, because press from all around the country have gone to the same place to test the car for the first time. TV programs just happen to take the film crew there as well.

I hope you were being ironic on the "wasting production budgets" thing, given the amount of money that TG goes through...

And I don't know what you consider "anorak data" but I generally like to know at least something about the car being tested, and in TG you sometimes don't even get that.

Yet, I don't mind, because it's entertainment, right?

Also, "average and boring cars" are what most of us can afford, so occasionally it's rather useful to know something about them.

Finally, the whole point of the TG feature with the German salons was to advocate buying a beat up old sports salon and wringing it to death on a track day – a disposable toy. It had nothing to do with appreciating it or standing next to its polished exterior on your driveway whilst smoking a pipe.

Generally if I'm going to buy a car I'd like to know it's not going to fall apart on a track day. You also seem to have a massive gap in your appreciation of cars between beating the hell out of them and sticking them on a plinth in your garden and never starting the engine. Again, I prefer a car in well-maintained condition that can also be used to have some fun in. TG displayed the latter but certainly not the former.

I like how you've changed your mind now and you've decided that the TG segment wasn't a buyers guide, it was actually just a few guys messing about in "disposable" cars.

Here's what you said:

what they presented was a really good look at buying a one of three cars that, 15 years ago were the dogs favourite lickable items. They showed all the pitfalls and things to look out for in finding and buying one of these cars and, effectively carried out a 15 year-on review too. On top of that, they went to locations to show you where to take advantages of motoring laws for the benefit of your motoring pleasure, and demonstrated the practicality of owning one of these cars

I've taken the time to highlight in bold all the bits that aren't particularly correct.

If you want to know any of that stuff, go buy a proper buyers guide. It wasn't a good look at buying any of the cars, they didn't really give a comprehensive guide useful to any future purchasing decision, they didn't really review them, and they certainly didn't demonstrate the practicality of owning one.

In fact, if I was being as obtuse to you as your comment was to me, I'd have made the bit about "motoring pleasure" bold as well because all they really did is thrashed some knackered cars on an autobahn and virtually killed them on a circuit. They've had much more relevant features to "motoring pleasure" before, such as their trips to find the world's best driving roads, or some of the road trip episodes.

Like I said before - I think you've read far too deeply into that segment.

And like I've also said before, I do enjoy Top Gear and I have ever since the early nineties, but if you think the current format is some sort of definitive bible of cars and motoring then you really need to widen your horizons a little.
 
I found it quite an enjoyable episode tonight, the bit where they were tearing around the business park was brilliant, and the rest of it was entertaining enough. Also, Barichello's lap :eek:
 
Really enjoyed tonites episode, though felt the wedding part was abit too predictable but the women in the back of Clarkson's car were brilliant.

Camaro-AMG test was abit of an odd one, but was still entertaining.

An entertaining episode in general 👍
 
If I had with enough money to buy either the Merc or the Camaro, I'd take the Camaro and all of the change any day!
 
A good episode all up. I'm shocked at Rubens' lap, what a beast!! If only he could replicate this in his F1 car then Williams might have a chance. :sly:

Also, is it just me or was the bride's mother actually hotter than the bride?? :odd:
 
Last nights episode was great, I liked pretty much every section. For me the best of the whole episode was the noise that Maserati makes :drool: I will admit, usually I'm a Aston kind of person but for me the Rapide just doesn't have the same impact on me as some of the other Aston Martin's I've seen before. Concerning the Panamera, I'm a bit more sold on the performance of the car but still I can't convince myself that I would buy the ugliest car out of the three, I think the Maserati would be more tempting. It's funny in a way how the Quattroporte has been out for so long, and gone through various different 'upgrades' I guess but is still the one on top.

Camaro v.s. AMG, I actually liked this section and found it interesting. As for which one I'd have...I'm not sure. I like the Camaro just because of it's looks really but the AMG's noise is phenomenal and it looks to handle impeccably as well. But I think I've decided. It's none of them. I still think I'd rather have the Monaro or a VXR8. Even if they are Vauxhall's. It's just that the Merc is kind of ugly and the Camaro is lacking in the performance section.

SIARPC was good, I mean both of them obviously. Ruben's wasn't as boring as I thought he was going to be he actually seemed like a pretty cool person and I wasn't bored by the fact he was a F1 driver. He had a pretty down to earth attitude. Rupert was great too, only JC would be the only interviewer in the world to be able to ask that question and get away with it.

The news was pretty good as well, it was actually pretty much car related for once as well, nice to see Ken Block having a go in the Robin as well. :lol:

Solid episode, lots of cars, interesting battles, epic sounds and some laughs along the way.

Oh and finally, great cinematography especially during the Camaro - AMG test some of those crane shots were amazing! 👍
 
Also, is it just me or was the bride's mother actually hotter than the bride?? :odd:

It's just you mate. :lol:

I liked the episode too. I agree with the boys, the Porsche Panamera is ugly. I'd rather watch every episode of Sex and the City back-to-back with no breaks, not even to take a dump, than drive one. Out of the 3 they tested my favourite was the Maserati. Everything about it said "Mafia hitman" to me.

On the Camaro vs. E63 bit - I really wouldn't call the E63 a rival to the Camaro. It would be better if they put it up against the Camaro's visceral enemy, the Mustang.
 
:rolleyes:

.....You aren't racist or sexist. I thought I made myself reasonably clear but apparently not. I was actually doing you a favour - I was saying that your general sentiment was similar to that of the comments you find on youtube, only without the racism, sexism, idiocy and other negative points that most youtube commenters have.

I’m not insulted by your post/s, I wouldn’t post here if I couldn’t converse without flaming at the lips or at the ethernet terminal. I’m not looking for a battle of wills either although, I will not back away from one unless I’m pulled up for veering eight miles off of topic.

What you have said above isn’t what you posted originally and, although I think this is perhaps your attempt at an apology for your incorrect choice of words, you have taken an extremely defensive stand point.

‘Overtly’ does not mean ‘without’. You suggested, by choice of your words, that I was in some way being underhandedly racist or sexist. Whether I am indeed one or both of these is not in question (I could be for all you know), it’s whether or not I made any comments that were; I did not.

Beyond this, I don’t understand why you are sooo concerned about what other people make or take from the program. I watch it and enjoy it, as you. If I have a couple of G to blow on a car to rag around a track for a few hours then I’ll probably buy a Merc 190E, what’s wrong with that? It’s no different to the sets of used wheels with tyres I’ve bought previously to fit to a car with the sole intention of burning them out – on a track day of course.

My point in regard to the example I gave is, there is no fixed term to car ownership or, the amount of cars you own and, unlike other car programs, Top Gear recognises that there are many types of pleasure to be derived from the experiences of motoring not just the car. You could substitute those three cars for a Saxo, a 205 and a clio for example. I wouldn’t care to own or drive any one of these cars but, for £300 I might be tempted to buy one and murder it on a track day. Top Gear happened to pick three far more powerful cars to make this point. I wouldn’t want to or, I am not able to ‘break’ one of my own cars on a track day but why should I miss out on the experience?

HFS says “My objection to Top Gear isn't with the program, it's with a great many of the people who watch it.” I didn’t ‘interpret what you said; I said I didn’t understand your point of view. What is wrong with other people watching it and again, why does that matter? This thread is very much about the Top Gear t.v. program, not who knows the most about cars per se. In defence of ‘the people’ who watch it, so what?.. to your comments :lol:

What I take from Top Gear is that it informs on what you need to know about a car in the context of what you might use it for. In the time they have available to air a story; I prefer the content that they show rather than them reading off the manufacturer’s chief buyer’s list of components. The relevance is in the context. Hence a supercar test is predominantly about figures and statistics and some wall-poster shots of what it looks like.

I don’t know anyone (perhaps you are in ‘the theatre’ and are therefore overtly dramatic) who has a ‘horrifically patchy knowledge of cars’. What is horrifically patchy knowledge? As I said before "You do not have to have an encyclopaedic mind of car statistics to enjoy them, in fact, to enjoy them for what they are, you are probably better off not having one". If you work in the car industry then of course a good knowledge of cars will help but, you do get training for that don’t you?

The last section of your post where you quoted me and suggest I contradict myself; I don’t, perhaps you should read it again and not concern yourself so much with highlighting it. You can buy disposable cameras, batteries, cutlery, nappies etc etc, why not a disposable car?

Beyond this your ramblings become personally offensive again, contradictory and based upon what exactly? I don’t know you and don’t make assumptions upon what you do and do not know but, lets’ substitute some of your words for a bit of fun…

…but if you think that steeling cars and cracking one off over car pictures is some sort of definitive bible of cars and motoring then you really need to widen your horizons a little.


Outtake from last week's episode.



Good find 👍 I can't see how the official economy data for a car that's the best part of 25 years old can be all that accurate but it was funny to see Major May pull up first despite his smugness :lol:
 
I’m not insulted by your post/s, I wouldn’t post here if I couldn’t converse without flaming at the lips or at the ethernet terminal. I’m not looking for a battle of wills either although, I will not back away from one unless I’m pulled up for veering eight miles off of topic.

What you have said above isn’t what you posted originally and, although I think this is perhaps your attempt at an apology for your incorrect choice of words, you have taken an extremely defensive stand point.

‘Overtly’ does not mean ‘without’. You suggested, by choice of your words, that I was in some way being underhandedly racist or sexist. Whether I am indeed one or both of these is not in question (I could be for all you know), it’s whether or not I made any comments that were; I did not.

*Sighs*

Okay, here it is for you again:

This bit really gets my goat, actually. It's more or less the attitude you see on youtube comments, albeit correctly spelled, well structured and without overt sexism and/or racism :lol:

See how I did you favours by saying how what you wrote was correctly spelled and well structured? And how I said you did it without sexism and racism? The use of the word "overt" quite clearly implies that this is how youtube comments generally are. If you read all the words in the correct order and don't cherry-pick, it actually makes sense.

I'm being defensive because you managed to completely mis-understand quite a simple part of my post. I even ended it with a "lol" smily to make the whole paragraph completely unthreatening, since I'm aware that bare text is a difficult medium over which to convey emotions.

I hope this is a bit clearer now, anyway, and you can see I wasn't trying to be in the slightest bit insulting or derogatory.

Beyond this, I don’t understand why you are sooo concerned about what other people make or take from the program.

On a broad scale I'm not, and my original comment was aimed at the assumption that programs like Fifth Gear are somehow massively inferior because essentially they don't appeal to the more primal instincts of seeing things destroyed, lots of crashes and general arsing about.

It's also unfortunate that when this attitude is combined with the general personality of your average 14-year old youtube commenter, you essentially get a hell of a lot of people who think that Top Gear is the gospel of motoring when it really isn't.

I watch it and enjoy it, as you. If I have a couple of G to blow on a car to rag around a track for a few hours then I’ll probably buy a Merc 190E, what’s wrong with that? It’s no different to the sets of used wheels with tyres I’ve bought previously to fit to a car with the sole intention of burning them out – on a track day of course.

My point in regard to the example I gave is, there is no fixed term to car ownership or, the amount of cars you own and, unlike other car programs, Top Gear recognises that there are many types of pleasure to be derived from the experiences of motoring not just the car. You could substitute those three cars for a Saxo, a 205 and a clio for example. I wouldn’t care to own or drive any one of these cars but, for £300 I might be tempted to buy one and murder it on a track day. Top Gear happened to pick three far more powerful cars to make this point. I wouldn’t want to or, I am not able to ‘break’ one of my own cars on a track day but why should I miss out on the experience?

I appreciate that you keep clarifying your point (and indeed I largely agree with it), but what you originally said was:

Taking this as an opportunity to look at this week’s Top Gear episode, the challenge was as good a look at buying a sporty/classic salon car as any I’ve seen on the tele or read in a magazine.

...which I pointed out to be a bit wide of the mark. Yes - Top Gear do a very good job of illustrating the fun that can be had in pretty much any car.

What they do not do is give you a particularly accurate guide to actually buying, running or maintaining the cars. They could do in the time the average segment goes on for, but then this wouldn't be as entertaining, which is the whole point.

They're trading entertainment for accuracy, which is completely fine - as long as you don't genuinely believe that the segment was anything other than a bit of a laugh.

What is wrong with other people watching it and again, why does that matter?

I've not actually said at any point there's any problem with people watching it... Once again, my point is that it's frustrating talking to someone (not necessarily you, before you misinterpret this next bit too) who seems to think that Top Gear is the best place to learn about cars. It really isn't, no more so than watching Gok's Fashion Fix is the best place to learn about fashion, or watching Changing Rooms is to learn about decor.

This thread is very much about the Top Gear t.v. program, not who knows the most about cars per se.

Again, I don't think I've either mentioned nor disputed that point...

What I take from Top Gear is that it informs on what you need to know about a car in the context of what you might use it for. In the time they have available to air a story; I prefer the content that they show rather than them reading off the manufacturer’s chief buyer’s list of components. The relevance is in the context. Hence a supercar test is predominantly about figures and statistics and some wall-poster shots of what it looks like.

Now you're talking sense. I agree - Top Gear is a great place to enjoy watching what cars do best - if it's a supercar they drive it fast, if it's a caravan they destroy it.

However, ironically you're contradicting your earlier point:

Top Gear is the only ‘motoring’ program on the tele in my opinion; all the others to a greater extent are just advertising platforms for the manufacturers.

What could be more of a manufacturers' "advertising platform" than an immaculately produced, light-on-content video of one of their cars being driven at high speed in a controlled environment? :lol: Top Gear is just about the best "advertising platform" a manufacturer could hope for!

I don’t know anyone (perhaps you are in ‘the theatre’ and are therefore overtly dramatic) who has a ‘horrifically patchy knowledge of cars’. What is horrifically patchy knowledge?

Someone who gets all of their car knowledge from TG will not have a fully-rounded view of the world of cars. I should think that's fairly obvious.

As I said before "You do not have to have an encyclopaedic mind of car statistics to enjoy them, in fact, to enjoy them for what they are, you are probably better off not having one". If you work in the car industry then of course a good knowledge of cars will help but, you do get training for that don’t you?

I should think that anyone with a passion for cars should at least know about them in a fair level of detail. I expect most regular posters in the automotive section of GTP are fairly well-read on cars, despite only a handful of them working in the industry. And I should think even those ones knew a lot about cars before they got jobs in the industry.

The last section of your post where you quoted me and suggest I contradict myself; I don’t, perhaps you should read it again and not concern yourself so much with highlighting it. You can buy disposable cameras, batteries, cutlery, nappies etc etc, why not a disposable car?

Firstly, disposable cameras aren't strictly disposable. The photo shop sends them back once they've processed your photos and a new film is fitted, and the whole thing is sold again... but I digress.

I'm more than happy with the concept of a disposable car, but unless you have money flowing out of your butt then buying cars simply to use them a few times and then scrap them is awfully expensive. I'd rather spend a little extra buying a good example of something like a 190 Cosworth and being able to use it and enjoy it repeatedly than buying a knackered one and sending it to the big scrapyard in the sky. Especially since they're becoming rarer and I do have the opinion that it's the responsibility of car enthusiasts to do their best to keep these cars going for the next generation of enthusiasts.

Beyond this your ramblings become personally offensive again, contradictory and based upon what exactly? I don’t know you and don’t make assumptions upon what you do and do not know but, lets’ substitute some of your words for a bit of fun…

:lol:

Please do feel free to quote the bits where I was being offensive and contradictory. Perhaps you didn't quote them before because you couldn't find any?

…but if you think that steeling cars and cracking one off over car pictures is some sort of definitive bible of cars and motoring then you really need to widen your horizons a little.

I bet you felt clever after that little paraphrase! Pity it was a load of cack, and that you didn't use a spellchecker before you hit "submit".

And I take back my earlier compliment about your post being well structured. Apparently I was wrong. And well done for getting steadily more obtuse and sarcastic throughout your post. You'll note I actually started this post quite jovially because I got the impression you were ready to have a reasoned discussion, but I'm quite happy to play hard ball if you're going to be an ass.
 
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Guys, do you want to take your little marriage row to PM or something, you're both really ruining this thread.
 
Is the discussion or is it not about Top Gear? I'm quite happy to call time on the discussion but if you're that bothered about it, don't read it.
 
It is but the PMT is kicking in. Seriously though, you are both getting a bit personal in places. You need to back off a bit, both of you, because your discussion is spoiling this thread.
 
I’m now satisfied that although it is unlikely HomesForSummer is going to realise his/her grammatical mistake, he/she genuinely doesn’t understand the word ‘overt’ and the context in which he/she used it. I think it’s also clear that no matter how hard he/she tries to butter up, his/her posts always end with negative and snide comments for which I don’t need to counter argue. Now that he/she’s removed all context to Top Gear and has chosen to solely concentrate on my spelling, I will assume he/she is just trying to be clever for the sake of it.

I watched last night’s episode today; I didn’t think it was their strongest showing but enjoyable all the same. Ken Block’s appearance made me chuckle, I suspect the Robin joke is going to be a running theme for the whole series. :lol:
 
He/she is now blocking you as you appear incapable of civilised discussion.

To everyone else: Sorry if I've been boring you. And on that bombshell...
 
Well, I guess those of us in the US have officially been screwed by BBC Worldwide. All episodes of Top Gear (usually in ten minute segments) have been shutdown by BBC due to copyright stuffs. Granted it's true, but It's TV, it's free anyway. It's BS, too, 'cause the US has to weight until 2015 to get Season 15 or pay some stupid site to watch it.
 
Meh, you didn't pay for it in the first place anyway (Top Gear that is), its already a bit suspicious that the BBC are getting away with handling, or at least being related to channels with money from other sources.
I'm guessing that the BBC can't use the money gained from BBC Worldwide for use in the UK? Otherwise it really is pretty rediculous.
 
Well, I guess those of us in the US have officially been screwed by BBC Worldwide. All episodes of Top Gear (usually in ten minute segments) have been shutdown by BBC due to copyright stuffs. Granted it's true, but It's TV, it's free anyway. It's BS, too, 'cause the US has to weight until 2015 to get Season 15 or pay some stupid site to watch it.

To you guys it is :p
 
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