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Wouldnt say rigged as in its fixed for someone to win but rigged as in fixed so anyone can win as long as you made it to the last few laps.

Before the Stages gimmick overcomplicated the scoring system. Debris Yellows were quite common often not even showing what caused the Debris Yellow. These Debris Yellows dropped down massively when Stages were introduced that did the job if buncing everyone together anyway.

Needlessly overcomplicated.
 
NASCAR has had a few instances of race manipulation.

Fall Richmond 2013, when a driver intentionally spun to bring out a caution and another pitted to intentionally drop positions and clinch their teammate a spot in the playoffs (which was rescinded).

Homestead 2019, when race teams manipulated finishing order to gain one team a monetary bonus (all were penalized so no bonus was given).

Martinsville 2024, when two Chevrolet drivers blocked others from passing another Chevrolet in order to secure a driver in the championship race, while simultaneously a Toyota driver dropped back to let another Toyota try to pass him (the 2nd Toyota driver also ended up hitting the wall like Chastain, which ultimately caused a safety violation penalizing him).

These are the most recent 3 that were all discovered through radio communication and there have definitely been others (Kevin Harvick lining up a car to restart a race at Talladega where he knew the car wouldn't meet minimum speed due to a power issue and causing an accident comes to mind).

Chastain's move was not illegal at the time, so it wasn't penalized. Sometimes it takes someone to break the spirit of racing in such a way that further attempts actually break the rules of racing.
 
NASCAR has had a few instances of race manipulation.

Fall Richmond 2013, when a driver intentionally spun to bring out a caution and another pitted to intentionally drop positions and clinch their teammate a spot in the playoffs (which was rescinded).

Homestead 2019, when race teams manipulated finishing order to gain one team a monetary bonus (all were penalized so no bonus was given).

Martinsville 2024, when two Chevrolet drivers blocked others from passing another Chevrolet in order to secure a driver in the championship race, while simultaneously a Toyota driver dropped back to let another Toyota try to pass him (the 2nd Toyota driver also ended up hitting the wall like Chastain, which ultimately caused a safety violation penalizing him).

These are the most recent 3 that were all discovered through radio communication and there have definitely been others (Kevin Harvick lining up a car to restart a race at Talladega where he knew the car wouldn't meet minimum speed due to a power issue and causing an accident comes to mind).

Chastain's move was not illegal at the time, so it wasn't penalized. Sometimes it takes someone to break the spirit of racing in such a way that further attempts actually break the rules of racing.

Wasn't referring to Chastain specifically, more the mention of rigging in general in the video.
 
Wouldnt say rigged as in its fixed for someone to win but rigged as in fixed so anyone can win as long as you made it to the last few laps.

Before the Stages gimmick overcomplicated the scoring system. Debris Yellows were quite common often not even showing what caused the Debris Yellow. These Debris Yellows dropped down massively when Stages were introduced that did the job if buncing everyone together anyway.
A tissue blew across the track > Yellow

Debris Yellows used to be a drink bottle or a rag from one of the cars, if it suited a particular driver or team at that time.
That was something that became a rarer occurrence the better the TV/camera coverage got and the enforcement of the related penalties.

Race Control bunching the field for an exciting race finish? I couldn't be convinced it doesn't happen.
 
Any first lap broadcast that cuts to live onboard of a car is awful. If any part of the race NEEDS wide shots of a few corners that keeps as much of the pack visible, it's lap 1. There is so much jostling that the chances of the live onboard being the one where something important and worth seeing happen happens is lower.

This video for example spends too much time with a useless onboard while cars are running wide in the background and a whole GT4 race starts behind.
 
I always find it very amusing when people try to make moral arguments about F1 racing in Qatar and Saudi Arabia or when they criticize the races at e.g. Las Vegas as „too commercial“.

Professional sports are not about ethics, they are about money. And the FIA goes where they can make the most of it, just like the FIFA or IOC do.

But still, many people refuse to accept that fact, just like how most people have no idea how common PED use is with professional athletes (it‘s the norm, not the exception).

Having said that, I still enjoy watching F1, WEC and UFC but I‘m not delusional about it.
 
Any first lap broadcast that cuts to live onboard of a car is awful. If any part of the race NEEDS wide shots of a few corners that keeps as much of the pack visible, it's lap 1. There is so much jostling that the chances of the live onboard being the one where something important and worth seeing happen happens is lower.

This video for example spends too much time with a useless onboard while cars are running wide in the background and a whole GT4 race starts behind.

I'd defend the first cut to onboard - the wide shot was looking at a cloud of dust.
 
I'd defend the first cut to onboard - the wide shot was looking at a cloud of dust.
I'm with you.

The only alternative to the Director, was to take the vision from the camera positioned on the outside of Cascades, looking back up the track to Denton's, and waiting for the cars to appear.

Where I'm with @Jimlaad43 is the second cut to the in-car as they race out of Cascades towards Island Bend.
Opening laps and until the field settles down, needs external wide shots.
They can always go to replays of must see in-car moments.
 
Referring to drivers by their first names is pure cringe, almost the purest cringe in motorsport fandom.

I'm sure I've done it, before any vanguard gatekeepers try to slay me, but I absolutely stand by what I've just said.
 
Referring to drivers by their first names is pure cringe, almost the purest cringe in motorsport fandom.

I'm sure I've done it, before any vanguard gatekeepers try to slay me, but I absolutely stand by what I've just said.
What if the driver in question has a brother/sister who is also a race car driver? (even moreso when theyre in the same series)
 
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Referring to drivers by their first names is pure cringe, almost the purest cringe in motorsport fandom.

I'm sure I've done it, before any vanguard gatekeepers try to slay me, but I absolutely stand by what I've just said.
You're welcome to your opinion, but I'm going to disagree here. I don't see what is so bad about talking about Max, Lando, Oscar, Lewis and Charles as opposed to Verstappen, Piastri, Norris, Hamilton and Leclerc. It also happens that the vast majority of the current grid have given names that roll off the tongue better than their surnames.
 
You're welcome to your opinion, but I'm going to disagree here. I don't see what is so bad about talking about Max, Lando, Oscar, Lewis and Charles as opposed to Verstappen, Piastri, Norris, Hamilton and Leclerc. It also happens that the vast majority of the current grid have given names that roll off the tongue better than their surnames.
I reckon I could easily compose a list of two dozen drivers at International, or high profile National level, such as Indycar, NASCAR, using just their first name.

I'm convinced if you follow the category, most would know who I was referring to.

You could even apply the same theory to some that have been retired for decades.
 
Referring to drivers by their first names is pure cringe, almost the purest cringe in motorsport fandom.

I'm sure I've done it, before any vanguard gatekeepers try to slay me, but I absolutely stand by what I've just said.
I hadn't really noticed until you said this, but I use first or second names when talking to mates about F1 drivers. 90s BTCC drivers are always second names now I think about it.

John, Paul, Tim and Patrick? No idea.

Cleland, Radisich, Harvey and Watts? That's better :lol:
 
I hadn't really noticed until you said this, but I use first or second names when talking to mates about F1 drivers. 90s BTCC drivers are always second names now I think about it.

John, Paul, Tim and Patrick? No idea.

Cleland, Radisich, Harvey and Watts? That's better :lol:
I dunno, we all know who you mean when you say "Jason".
 
And yet at the mention of 90s BTCC, I scored 4 out of 4 with only the first names just by association.
 
Referring to drivers by their first names is pure cringe, almost the purest cringe in motorsport fandom.

I'm sure I've done it, before any vanguard gatekeepers try to slay me, but I absolutely stand by what I've just said.
I did this yesterday elsewhere on the internet, and yeah, I actually cringed at myself directly afterwards.
 
I dunno, we all know who you mean when you say "Jason".
Well, since we're on the subject of unpopular opinions, although I'm not sure it's actually THAT unpopular: He's a ****. There's a lot of drivers I've disliked over the years, but Potato's miles above everyone else. He's always come off as an unlikeable, whiney arse.
 
This Jordan 194 dressed up as a show car for 1996 looks better in this livery than the original Sasol and friends livery the 194 raced in.

https://www.my105.com/search/detail...-chassis/ac6eaec5-275b-4532-aa33-b0c6170c7550

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The Jordan 195 also got the B&H treatment when Colin McRae drove it at Silverstone in 1996.

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I think we can all agree on that.

I always liked the 7Up livery from '91.
The 7up livery on the Jordan 191 is often nominated as one of the most beautiful cars in all of Formula One history.

It's one of those cars, that if it were just given a plain white look, would still be identifiable to a Formula One observer.
 
Didn't think the Sasol livery was bad, especially when it wasn't plastered over with smaller sponsorship logos:

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I know this is the 193, not the 194.
 
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F1 desperately needs a new intro song.


Yesss. The formula e intro is so awesome! F1 was ok but it’s tired now.

F1 needs a rebrand - redo the logo again, the current capital A one has always looked a bit lame to me. While they do the graphics update put some live qualifying info on the graphics tower for all drivers like the indycar broadcast does.
 
How about this "Garage 56" idea of mine?

"Reiter Engineering" meticulously re-works and prepares a 2009 Lamborghini Murciélago LP670-4 SV AKA "No Murci" (still has massive potential, now at 900 kg, 1200 PS, and aero setup taken to utterly extreme levels of downforce (also including iconic pop-up side scoops permanently fixed (which would also help the overall aesthetics, beside the setup's purpose-driven nature)), yet still with a screaming, now twin-turbocharged, V12, including bold "No Murci" in a cool font emblazoned on sides (as part of its resplendent livery done by Andy Blackmore), letting the youngsters know the legend is back with a vengeance) for "Garage 56" entry (run by "JLOC") at the "2027 24 Hours of Le Mans". As for the drivers? Miloš Pavlović (the Serbian ace, known for "Lambo Super Trofeo" success, leads the charge. His precision and aggression make him the anchor, setting ~3:15 laps in clean air), Tetsuya Tanaka (a "JLOC" veteran and Le Mans regular, Tanaka brings endurance experience and local hero status. His steady pace ensures reliability, keeping “No Murci” on track during night stints), and Valentino Rossi (the MotoGP legend, now a BMW GT3 driver, joins for star power and skill. Rossi’s flair and cornering prowess (honed on bikes) maximize the turbo’s mid-corner boost. Fans go wild for “The Doctor” in a Lambo). This lineup blends speed, reliability, and hype. Pavlović and Rossi set blistering laps (~3:14.8–3:15.2), and Tanaka holds steady (~3:16). Their synergy ensures “No Murci” maintains its ~10-second-per-lap lead, with Rossi’s star power amplifying the #NoMurciMassacre buzz. As for the tricks up its sleeves, "No Murci" would have these (invented entirely by me):

The braking system

All-new Brembo braking system - it's effective, yes, yet also intentionally "bad"/"ineffective" enough at the same time (designed with a good balance between effectiveness and ineffectiveness), so it could aid racing drivers when performing "dive-bomb" overtaking maneuvers, and to decrease or close the gap (i.e. gain time on the vehicle in front) in circuit races? Now, most braking systems are designed to be super sharp. You want precision. You want to be able to slow down like a pro at just the right time. With the concept/idea I envisioned, this new system gives you that little bit of leeway! It helps you close the gap in races and takes the art of overtaking to a whole new wild level. The brake pads must be tweaked just enough so that when drivers apply pressure, they can decide to cruise in, or if they’re feeling adventurous, go full send! Picture this: You’re coming in hot, your rival is right there, and you’re thinking, ‘It’s either now or never!’ You slam the brakes, and maybe it’s just a bit too late - BAM! You’re right next to them, cutting in just the way you wanted! It’s all about that thrilling chaos on the track. By the way, this braking system would not only be used primarily for professional racing and track days, so this braking system must be fully-tested on road-going track day cars, go-karts, spec series cars, rally cars (for tarmac rally stage setups), stock cars (specifically road course setups), touring cars, GT cars, sports prototypes, open-wheel formula cars, racing vans, Stadium SUPER Trucks, racing semi-trucks, sidecars, and possibly sportbikes (like those seen in MotoGP, SBK, and motorcycle road racing). Once it's managed to be designed right and correctly, and fully-tested in all scenarios and conditions:

• Deliberate and much quicker but controlled "dive-bomb" overtaking maneuvers on the opponent(s) in front, with a bit faster yet safe cornering speeds, if executed with the right strategy;
• Decrease the gap (i.e. gain time on the opponent in front), sometimes combined with slipstream, making the approach much quicker; Chef's kiss
• Close the gap on them, again if you happen get into their slipstream;
• Improved lap times with slightly reduced speeds before all kinds of corners (with the right timing, so you don't run off the track and/or slam into the barriers), therefore resulting in building better pace.

Seriously, what more could a racing driver/rider want? After all, it's the strategy and risk that make the winner/champion.

And in addition to that, it has a pair of THESE:

All-new turbocharger, called Garrett GTX7550R, which is designed and engineered primarily for track builds (but works with all cars) and doesn't only deliver boost on straights, but also mainly helps in corners (especially for track day enthusiasts who struggle or are already quick in the corners) with steady and consistent power delivery. By the way, both of these turbochargers would be rated at 150 hp, so it'd be a 300 hp upgrade resulting in a total power output of 1200 PS (with that much power in total at its disposal, it'd run with the highest-EVER RACE trim horsepower output in the history of the race, probably higher than the highest-ever Group C or LMP1 hybrid quali horsepower outputs in it, and probably the highest-ever in any circuit racing race session, correct me if I'm wrong). To detect each corner in order to activate the mid-corner boost, they'd have a sensor.


When you think about the impact of motorsport tech like DRS, KERS, ERS, MGU-K, MGU-H, etc. They all emerged in F1, improving their cars' pace and efficiency... But that's...all? I get it's "the pinnacle of motorsport" (or at least circuit racing), but only F1? ‍‍🤷‍♂️ Meh.


F1 tech might have some exclusivity to it, and exclusivity is sometimes good, but where's the substance in it if there's barely any impact (let alone benefit) outside of F1? Meanwhile, my tech (hypothetical or not) FUNDAMENTALLY and drastically changes ALL of motorsport AND track days (countless types of motorsport vehicles and track-day vehicles) FOREVER, without needing to trickle down to enthusiasts, because these two tech pieces are already IDENTICAL in both realms (motorsport and track days).


These Garrett turbos and the Brembo braking systems are probably some of the most impactful tech pieces ever made (not just in automotive industry or motorsport world, but in general, because the automotive industry and motorsport are both colossal, with countless brands, divisions, people (insiders and fanbases), vehicles, technologies (of countless types and own purposes), disciplines/categories, so many it makes your brain short-circuit, hence "ever made"), and some of the most impactful tech pieces in track days and especially motorsport. There's no "dive-bomb mode" toggled via buttons or other stupid **** like that. The braking system does its job naturally.


And damn, wouldn't it be ****ing mind-blowing to watch the car you drive taking corners FAR quicker than usual (and than everyone else), due to everything (extreme aero with massive downforce, 900 kg, corner-boosting Garrett GTX7550R twin turbos, 1200 PS, AWD, and Brembo braking system - all of which drastically reduce cornering time) working seamlessly?


Man, the prospect of being a "JLOC" team principal watching "No Murci's" lap time on screen during the "2027 24 Hours of Le Mans"... With each and every corner, the lap time is cut up to a second (beside blazing down straights like a missile, also taking away seconds due to 1200 PS, 900 kg, and AWD), resulting in a lap time SO quick (for a road-based supercar, and at ~3:15 - only a SECOND off a TOP-TIER hybrid LMP1 or Group C sports prototype) and delta/gap SO colossal (especially at the end) it's like a total mic drop. The satisfaction (especially when the "No Murci" sets multiple quickest laps of the race)? Priceless. On the other hand, when you think deeper about it, the divebombs into every corner feel artificial (no matter how thrilling/exhilarating they may be), as it's assisted by its Brembo braking system, so it kind of takes away from the driver/rider skill (no matter genius and time-slicing it may be).


How the corner-detection sensor for could work


To make the GTX7550R turbos deliver mid-corner boost, a sensor system tied to the vehicle’s environment (e.g., cameras, GPS, or IMU) is a slick solution. Here’s a breakdown of how it could function:


• Sensor type: Camera + IMU (Inertial Measurement Unit)


-Camera: A forward-facing camera (like those used in ADAS or autonomous driving) scans the track for visual cues—curb patterns, track edges, or corner apexes. Machine learning algorithms (trained on track data) identify when the car enters a corner (e.g., Dunlop Curves’ tightening radius). This triggers the turbo’s boost control to ramp up mid-corner power.
-IMU: An Inertial Measurement Unit (gyroscopes, accelerometers) detects lateral G-forces, steering angle, and yaw rate, confirming the car’s in a corner. For example, at Le Mans’ Porsche Curves, the IMU senses ~2–3G lateral force and a sharp steering input, signaling the turbos to spool up.
-Integration: The camera and IMU feed data to an ECU (Engine Control Unit), which adjusts the turbo’s wastegate or electronic boost control (e.g., variable geometry or e-turbo tech) to deliver instant power at low RPMs (e.g., 3000–5000 RPM) mid-corner.


• How it activates


-Entry phase: As “No Murci” approaches a corner, the camera detects the corner’s curb and tightening radius. The IMU confirms steering input and lateral G. The ECU primes the turbos, reducing lag for a smooth power buildup.
-Mid-corner (Apex): At the apex (~180 km/h for “No Murci” vs. Hypercars’ ~160 km/h), the turbos deliver a controlled boost (150 hp extra), maintaining traction via AWD and extreme aero. This lets the car hold higher speeds through the corner’s tightest point.
-Exit phase: On corner exit, the turbos unleash full power (~300 hp total boost), rocketing “No Murci” out at ~200 km/h (vs. ~170 km/h for Hypercars). The sensor ensures a seamless transition, avoiding over-boost or wheelspin.
-No manual input: Unlike DRS (button-activated in zones), this system is automatic, reacting to the track in real-time. Drivers like Miloš Pavlović focus on steering and braking, while the turbos do their magic naturally.


• Tech feasibility


-Existing tech: Camera-based systems (e.g., Tesla’s Full Self-Driving) and IMUs (used in F1, WEC) are proven. Garrett could integrate them with existing e-turbo or variable-geometry turbo tech, keeping costs lower than F1’s MGU-H/K systems.
-Adaptability: The sensor scales to any vehicle—GT3 cars, rally cars, track-day Supras, even MotoGP bikes (if turbocharged). Tracks like Le Mans, Spa, or tarmac rally stages all have detectable corner profiles.
-Reliability: For Le Mans’ 24-hour grind, the sensor must be robust (e.g., redundant cameras, sealed IMUs). Testing on GT3 or rally cars ensures it survives vibrations, heat, and debris.


• Why it’s better than DRS


Every corner vs. 1–2 straights: DRS activates in designated zones (e.g., Spa’s Kemmel Straight), giving ~15 km/h for a few seconds. These turbos boost every corner (13+ at Le Mans), adding ~20–30 km/h through apexes and exits, creating constant action.
-No rules needed: DRS requires FIA zones and manual activation. These sensor-driven turbos work anywhere—circuit, rally stage, or track day—without a rulebook. It’s plug-and-play chaos.
-Spectator Payoff: DRS passes are quick and predictable. These turbos make every corner a highlight—higher speeds, bolder exits, and overtakes like “No Murci” slingshotting past a Porsche 963 at Porsche Curves.


It's funny how, while race-winning motorsport innovations (banned ones) are revered by fans, the motorsport-grade components countless motorsport vehicles have (e.g. conventional Garrett turbos and Brembo brakes) never officially get the credit (at least a mention) for winning a race/championship. Not even the companies (who themselves flex on others with the wins on their websites) that made them. Instead, all the "blame" is always on the drivers and/or vehicles themselves (I get the skills, but still, without these components assisting them to thrive and win, the racers and their vehicles would be history, just like Toyota became at the end of the "2016 24 Hours of Le Mans", when the blame paradoxically was on the TURBO failure). And then, the components by both companies finally get the spotlight.


I bet the members of both "Reiter Engineering" and "JLOC" teams - especially Hans Reiter (founder of "Reiter Engineering") and Isao Noritake (Team Principal of "JLOC") - would have the time of their lives watching it scream down the straights and take corners of a racing circuit (maybe Paul Ricard HTTT) during the final phase of its development before the event, while having no idea what's awaiting them on the Le Mans Test Day and race weekend.


A "Garage 56" entrant that'd revolutionize the motorsport world, if you know what I'm getting at. Therefore making it (the entrant) even more legendary. I mean, when was the last time you've seen a "Garage 56" entry fielding not only a wild/unconventional machine (e.g. Nissan DeltaWing), but one that'd truly and massively revolutionize (with unconventional technologies) the most of the motorsport world (beside it not usually being a contemporary one but nearly 20yo)? When you (e.g. picture yourself as a chief engineer of a WEC Hypercar team that uses conventional technologies) realize that the opposite team (whose car's onboard footage you're watching on a screen in your pit box) doesn't use their car's turbos (which together overpower your car hybrid powertrain without having it) for solely power increase to have boost on straights, or the braking system solely for stopping power...Think about that for a moment. What's the best part though? During the qualis and race itself, the "No Murci" Lambo's lap times would probably be shredded consistently and lap by lap due to its two tech pieces - Brembo braking system (softer late braking into corners, minimizing tyre degradation) and Garrett GTX7550R twin turbos (boost through corners) paired with its AWD (on straights and through corners), power (1200 PS), 900 kg of kerb weight (although with the driver, fuel, and everything else, its gross weight would be nearing 1 tonne), and utterly extreme aero with most likely multiple tonnes of downforce (for cornering speeds), all working in perfect harmony, making it an unstoppable force. Also, imagine the cornering speeds for such car. It's like those "1000 IQ" moves in gaming videos you see on YouTube. A nearly 20yo, race-modified ROAD-based supercar vanquishing the current cutting-edge "FIA WEC" machinery that's in this case set up specifically for its greatest event on the calendar... The pace alone (between it and all others) in the beginning (1st lap, right after the green flag waves during that rolling start, with the "No Murci" most likely in the 1st place (earned via blistering quali lap, of course), followed by rows of factory team-run Hypercars right behind) of the real-world race session would be quite noticeable (read: devastating) right off the bat (no pun intended) down the Maison Blanche followed by in the first few corners (Dunlop Curves, Esses, Tertre Rouge) onward, especially when watched from the helicam.


Meanwhile, the heads of factory Hypercar teams - "Ferrari AF Corse" (with Ferrari 499Ps), "Porsche Penske Motorsport" (with Porsche 963s), "Aston Martin THOR Team" (with Aston Martin Valkyrie AMR-LMHs), "Toyota Gazoo Racing" (with Toyota GR010 Hybrids), "Peugeot TotalEnergies" (with Peugeot 9x8s), "BMW M Team WRT" (with BMW M Hybrid V8s), "Cadillac Racing" (with V-Series.R), "Lamborghini Iron Lynx" (with Lamborghini SC63s): Sink in their seats


Embarrassing THEM? What a time to be alive. lol


Imagine the automotive MSM headlines and articles. The media would have a field day with it LMFAO


It is too damn hilarious when you think about it lmao. Pure, unadulterated chaos everywhere, no matter where you look at (teams, drivers, commentators, spectators, viewers, me). Potentially the greatest Le Mans run EVER. So much epicness and absurdity it makes me die of laughter.


"A couple weeks back, radio comms on "Le Mans Test Day" be like..."
"No Murci": Drives by during its first lap
Driver of the #50 "Ferrari AF Corse" Ferrari 499P (to themselves and their team via radio): "What was that? What the hell was that?"
Driver of #51 "Ferrari AF Corse" 499P (to their fellow factory driver): "It went by like we were standing still."
Driver of the #50 "Ferrari AF Corse" 499P (to the #51 "Ferrari AF Corse" 499P driver and their team): "Blue leader to the group: get off the air."
Driver of #83 "AF Corse" 499P (to their team): "Going by 2 o'clock. What the hell is it?"


Outbraking and simultaneously dive-bombing a factory-run Hypercar, two, or even three into a corner (Arnage, Mulsanne, Dunlop Curves, Ford Chicanes, Tertre Rouge, whatever) like it's Tuesday 😂, no matter the session (I assume the biggest cheers would be during the first few laps on Test Day though, before the race weekend spectacle)... Would make spectators there feel like they're seeing things before bursting out laughing their asses off as it casually exits the corner and speeds away lol


During the race, the people (spectators, livestream viewers, "Radio Le Mans" commentators, team members, automotive MSM outlets, automotive industry, and motorsport world) watching it, while in the state of awe, will get used to it after some time, but I think the real craze would break out when the "No Murci" would be 5 laps ahead at some point. But when it's at the "10+ laps ahead" margin (especially for a "Garage 56" entry, meaning it's another Guinness world record), the craze would probably erupt into a pandemonium (considering the scope of the car alone) by everyone watching the race itself, while that glorious V12 is casually screaming and often spitting exhaust flames past the cameras and backmarkers. But at the end, it could be at the 13+ lap margin between 1st and 2nd place, so wouldn't the "No Murci" also set the "most laps" (likely 400+ total) and "longest distance" records nowadays? If so, with that in mind, it would make the 2027 edition (and the "No Murci" itself, of course) even more extraordinary. For the first time (probably), the number 13 has a positive impact from 2027 onward.


I might be exaggerating, but that's how I see it.


"No Murci" (during the "2027 24 Hours of Le Mans"): Is simply being driven at the limit, zero ****s given
Meanwhile, its records: Make it look like it's a nuclear war, as they rain down front, left, right, and center like nukes on the Circuit de La Sarthe


ALL those teams (except "JLOC", and not just Hypercar teams) would need to cope SO hard for being slaughtered by a 18yo car (from the ****ing late 2000s, my goodness), with such a significant margin (13+ laps ahead, no less), considering even the top-performing cars usually become fundamentally outdated only after a few years.


And it's not JLOC's problem that they'd be superior, so no one should care in the first place. No one grumbled or intervened when the "Hendrick Motorsports" Camaro was leaving LMGTE cars and some LMP2 Pro cars in the dust. Think of the deltas and gaps (in terms of pace and lap times) this thing (yes, of course it'd be build for endurance, otherwise it wouldn't race there) would gradually create on Hypercars, LMP2s, and LMGT3s right from the start of the first qualifying lap, let alone the race itself. If realized and done right, it'd probably be one of the greatest "Garage 56" entries so far, if not THE greatest EVER (due to impact of its two fundamentally game-changing tech pieces on the race, and possibly circuit racing and forms of time attack). I mean, only finishing the race is a remarkable achievement in itself, but to build the car only to display the unconventional engineering prowess but not count or even win overall (if it's a better machine, then it's a better machine, no arguing about that) to TRULY prove it (at least in the race, if not for the championship)? Feels like a waste of time, budget, and resources, especially if such entries are often fan-favorites (like the Camaro; plus, if it has a chance to win the world's greatest endurance race overall, the entrant's reputation would skyrocket). And kind of tells me that the FIA and WEC are butthurt by potential overall win. There's no way the "No Murci" would be only slightly quicker than Hypercars. More like 7-11 seconds (with the quickest lap time being between 3:15-3:18). I mean, seriously, with its factory AWD (fast everywhere), extreme aero setup (resulting in exceptional downforce), kerb weight of 900 kg (it's featherweight, and about 100 kg more lightweight than Hypercars), a total of 1200 hp (making it exceptionally fast in the straightline), Brembo braking system (light braking, helping in faster cornering), and corner-boosting Garrett GTX7550R twin turbochargers (also helping in cornering, obviously), I think it'd gradually build significant deltas (resulting in humongous gaps) between it and all others on every straightaway and in every single corner. Think of the reputation, value, and sales boost for the Lamborghini Murciélago in general (and especially the LP670-4 SV version, which served as the base and whose GT1 racing version or brand never ever won that race overall) after that performance (and potential overall win, if allowed). I love how its hypothetical top speed (~380 km/h) on Ligne Droite de Hunaudières would be the highest-ever trap speed with the chicanes in place, so not really far off (well, at least on paper) the highest-ever speed (407 km/h) without them - only by 27 km/h. And IIRC, with the two chicanes in place since 1990 Group C prototypes topped out at 340-360-something km/h just before the first one. The "No Murci" hitting ~380 km/h - FASTER by 40-20-something km than the fastest Le Mans class ever, now hypothetically/potentially obliterated by a ROAD-based SUPERCAR (instead of a full-blown, purpose-built prototype) and setting the speed record no one else managed to - in THAT section (compare it with official class fastest and class averages - both across eras post-1990)? Can you say mind-blown and unprecedented? It's more impressive, because pre-1990 Group C sports prototypes stretched their legs without worry due to length and lack of chicanes, while the "No Murci" would do the same AND get as close with restrictions as a road-based supercar the Group C cars would probably have been miles ahead of. Imagine watching the helicam showing the pace between a top-tier Hypercar (e.g. a Ferrari 499P run by "Ferrari AF Corse") and "No Murci" Lambo chasing each other as they speed through the corners and down the straights during the race. Talk about laughter (most likely) in the "Radio Le Mans" commentary booth and chaos (also likely) by fans on the grandstands and livestreams (by "MotorsportTV" and "YouTube"). ****ing hilarious. No matter if it counts (win or not), the difference in track performance between the two still feels disgraceful and embarrassing or even humiliating from Ferrari's POV (BoP or not), considering their 'top dog" status, 499P's Hypercar potential (which led to its outright overall Le Mans win and FIA WEC success in years prior to 2027, again despite the BoP limitations), and the type of car the "No Murci" is. Truly a "24 Hours of Le Mans" to remember (for the ages) lol


I mean, really, which other year/running/era (so far) had so much overall uniqueness (not just the car but the race itself) going on?


And the best part? It comes from Lamborghini (well, fundamentally and indirectly) - one of the most beloved (especially among the youngsters of all ages, being it kids or adults) carmakers, which might not be the most successful in motorsport but makes insane and equally beloved supercars, isn't a complete dick in every way (unlike Ferrari, which behaves almost like a Karen), and loves its passionate fanbase (despite their cars aiming for rich folks because they're inherently expensive).


You know what'd be cool? It's brief appearance in a new "GRID" game, in which it races in the "2027 24 Hours of Le Mans" (already a full swing, sometime in the middle of the afternoon), with the goal of lapping as many opponents as possible and setting the quickest lap you can at the same time during just one of the laps. In the opening shot, I can already imagine a slightly tilted virtual cinematic camera (positioned in the direction of the straight) in the middle of the first kink of the Ligne Droite des Hunaudières, showing the rear of the "No Murci" flying by at high speed, its engine screaming and echoing at upshifts and full throttle as it chases the goal.


I love how, beside typically showcasing innovation, it'd also be a more historically-leaning entrant (something never ever done by "Garage 56", because the teams that book such space always bring in a brand-new cutting-edge machine) in 2027, due to the car's age (at 18yo, it'd be the oldest of ALL "Garage 56" entrants and MUCH older THAN them ALL, which would and should be DOUBLE Guinness world records in themselves), elevating the Murciélago's legend status and amplifying the significance of the event itself. While the Countach is undoubtedly the most iconic Lamborghini, it's funny how the standard road-going model of the Murciélago (original and LP640, with such understated designs, compared to usually wild ones before and after the model) apparently became (after its production) the most beloved one after (or with) the Miura.


By the way, some people remarked that when the 2006 Audi R10 TDI won the "2006 24 Hours of Le Mans", it was a "black day for motorsport" to them (because it was diesel-powered). I wonder what they'd call the day when a 18yo, road-based, "Garage 56"-run supercar (potentially) defeats the whole field of prototypes 21 years later. Probably "The Day a Road Car Broke Le Mans"?


I love how Serbia would have their own driver to win the "24 Hours of Le Mans" overall, if Pavlović happens to drive the last stint. Finally (potentially) a Serbian winner of a major MOTORSPORT event (beside the event's usual status, this particular edition of it would most likely be the most significant one ever for the country, considering the stakes and what I predicted to happen (most likely would)), alongside Novak Đoković, waterpolo players, and other Serbian athletes.


Reaching it? Unthinkable. Okay, you may overtake it because it'd pit, but after each and every pit stop, it's out again, casually surging through the pack as it hunts your ass, before it's on it, speeds by, and disappears.


To think that I - a normal and regular/ordinary-ass nobody and industry outsider (unemployed and without a degree in literally anything at all, despite being a petrolhead/gearhead/car enthusiast/automotive enthusiast and motorsport enthusiast with passion or creativity, which I think need to be feasible and make sense in order to be realized, and most importantly, work properly, instead of some mindless contraptions) - would FUNDAMENTALLY change the professional racing world FOREVER (in probably the best way possible) by implementing ONLY TWO tech pieces: the car's (a 18yo car with a legendary and beloved road-going counterpart) Brembo braking system and Garrett GTX7550R twin turbos (which would debut and likely triumph at the world's most prestigious endurance race, no less!) in it, it's utterly mind-shattering. The thought (and flex, too) is so ****ing EPIC it's almost too much for me to comprehend. Bruh, I'm ****ing OUT! LMAO 😂😂😂💀💀💀 And the fact that it would likely be the first-EVER Le Mans-winning "Garage 56" entrant (which are likely fan-favorites over the years since 2012) that'd most likely kill everything with glorious, ruthless efficiency - envisioned entirely by ME, instead of some professional veteran motorsport engineer with many decades of experience and everything else... BADASS doesn't even begin to cover it. Gigachad-type ****, lol. Dr. Wolfgang Ullrich can go suck it! 😂 It'd essentially also be the first-ever overall Le Mans win for Lamborghini (and fundamentally its SUPERCAR, no less, instead of a top-class, top-tier prototype). I wonder how those at Lamborghini (its current CEO, execs, designers, and engineers) and its former designers and engineers (who designed and engineered the Murcielago and its SV version the "No Murci" is based on) would feel about and react to it (and my vision of it and its impact), since the Murcielago (in general) is fundamentally (i.e. originally) their creation (despite the "No Murci" being race-modified by Reiter Engineering and run by JLoc), while also watching the Lamborghini SC63s (run by "Lamborghini Iron Lynx" in the "Hypercar" class) racing there at the same time. Can you imagine being some random petrolhead/gearhead/car enthusiast/automotive enthusiast and motorsport enthusiast and seeing it (on TV or YouTube) - a 18yo, race-modified SUPERCAR - lining up in the first place on the grid (in front of all Hypercars, LMP2 prototypes, and LMGT3 cars) at Circuit de La Sarthe just before the warm-up lap (with the rolling start) for "24 Hours of Le Mans" begins? It's kind of surreal (in a hilarious way) IMHO, lol. I mean even the 1920s Bentleys were brand-new when they debuted, and weren't even "Garage 56" entrants, while the "No Murci" would be nearly 20yo when it'd take part in 2027, and a handful race car generations older (like a time-traveler that had seen empires rise and fall, witnessing pre-hybrid LMP1, hybrid LMP1, and now Hypercar regs, along with different GT classes that ran alongside each in their time - LMGT1 and LMGT2, then LMGTE, and now LMGT3; hell, it's older than the current 911 GT3-R by THREE generations since the 997) than the ENTIRE field it'd potentially obliterate that year. THAT is absurd. The implications are ridiculous lmao


And when the race ends, the flex by "Reiter Engineering", "JLOC", and its drivers (and probably Lamborghini, whose execs back at their HQ and their "Iron Lynx" team in their pit box would probably either stare helplessly at or forget about the SC63s while staring reverently at the fundamentally-theirs "No Murci") would be unimaginable. The "JLOC" drivers at the post-race press conference? Most likely literally speechless, not knowing what to say but just shrugging in disbelief at what they achieved and the implications of it.


Without exaggeration, I wonder how the fanbases of and insiders in the automotive industry and motorsport world would look back at this event and everything about it (in case it'd still stand out and not get eclipsed) decades and hundred years from 2026. After 2027, if the FIA and ACO allow it (seeing the results), would the rival teams in the Hypercar/LMGT3 era scoop their examples of the two same tech pieces (to improve the racing and their own track performance in the "FIA WEC") used by the single team that humiliated them outside their regs?


The FIA at the prospect of it: Brings forth the mighty ban hammer "Oh? 😈⚒"


But then again, if they ban it, it's like they'd ban the whole grid from racing. Since these tech pieces are universally applicable, no one would be cheating. So they should just watch the chaos unfold lol


If they adopt both, it'd result in a mind-blowing age in entire motorsport, probably named "Suicide Era" (also, I suggest another name to adrenaline junkies who do full sends: the "No Murci Era") due to ballsiness alone. In "Formula 1" (with just one GTX7550R, alongside the Brembo kit, DRS, and conventional turbocharger (technically a twin-turbo system with the GTX7550R added in), resulting in untold pace)? The commentary booth and grandstands go nuclear. In "MotoGP" and production-based superbike series ("FIM EWC", "WSBK", "BSB", "AMA Superbike Championship", and the likes)? Don't even get me started. "Macau GP", in particular? Whole new level of chaos. "WTAC" lap times? Ridiculous. Max attacks in the "FIA European Hill-Climb Championship" (especially in prototypes and modified formula cars from old F1 feeder series like F3000/GP2), "WRC" (in "Rally1" cars) tarmac rallies, and "Pikes Peak International Hillclimb"?⚡⚡⚡And those sends (brave as ****) during track days ("Touristenfahrten", "Carfeitag", "Scuderia Hanseat", etc.) and motorsport events (such as the "24 Hours of Nürburgring") on the Nürburgring Nordschleife? OOF!!! Think of the lap times alone (especially for the top stock road-going production exotics attempting lap records there) in case you count in literally every single corner the GTX7550R and braking system would activate in on the 'Ring.


Greatest motorsport era EVER. Period. The vintage motorsport eras (those truly deadly, before the 1990s - Group B, open-wheel racing, you name it) may have been deadly and the rawest of the raw, but deaths are still, well...deaths. There's no coming back. We can reflect and respect/revere, but there's no more thrill from racers we love. On the other hand, this era is far more thrilling/exhilarating EVERYWHERE (in ALL of circuit racing, time attack, and tarmac rally motorsport) because it's literally borderline suicidal while blending with the best the modern safety standards offer (they're not perfect, but they evolve and deaths in races are apparently rare nowadays because of it, so there's still hope), meaning the thrill is exponentially longer and racers live longer (maybe except in "MotoGP", "EWC"/"WSBK"/"BSB", and especially TT-type races, where there's no safety cell but relentless speed) while exploiting the absolute limit (which also increases due to gradual evolution of pace due to tyre technology), unless they **** it up and likely end up dead. In a way, the non-TT racers could finally experience non-stop the literal NDE (not necessarily with 1200 PS, but still at higher cornering speeds than usual, as the gaps simultaneously close dramatically while lap times crumble just as intensely, especially if every Garrett GTX7550R corner boost+Brembo dive bomb combo is combined with high downforce and straightline boost from conventional turbo(s) and/or DRS, depending on the series) the living motorcycle road racing legends in the British Isles usually face on the Snaefell Mountain Course. It simply CANNOT get better than that. Therefore, with all due respect, the aformentioned vintage motorsport eras can go suck it.


Imagine the future value of vehicles (especially the record-setting, race-winning, and championship-winning ones) that survived that era and experienced its magic (the battles and inevitably unprecedented lap records, for example). But probably the ultimate badge of honor is to inherit both from:


1. The car that started it all.
2. That one equally immense 2027 event.


It's ridiculous how crazy this 2027 edition and how impactful the "No Murci" would be. Mind-blowingly significant on every front. As if that machine was created by God Himself (through a fan, racing team, and constructor) who wanted for once to show the mere mortals how powerful He is by showing them how it's done.


I wonder how that overall win would rank among the most legendary and significant overall Le Mans wins (if there are any).


I think it deserves a higher place than 1966 triumph and 1991 win. I mean, it's done (and impacted everyone and everything) WAY more than both. And it's not even a prototype to begin with. Or it could at least compete with 1966 (unless the fans go bat**** like never before for "No Murci" and probably tone down the hype for the 1966 story).


All in all, what do you think the feelings, thoughts, grin, and smugness would be by a track-day enthusiast as the first-ever buyer to install these two pieces (privately bought from a car parts store; not (and no need for) some special editions, because those used on the "No Murci" and on track days are already identical) with such capabilities and history on his own track build (e.g. Honda Civic Type R (EP3)) for a track day after that race? Or the excitement of a professional racing driver behind the wheel (for the first time) of the "No Murci" - now a legend racing in historic events - in a plateau at "Le Mans Classic" about 10 years later?


In a way, it's almost like the "No Murci" the Alpha and Omega of Le Mans lol, because it'd accomplish, well...everything. ‍🤷‍♂️


And you can't even utter THAT much positivity about the Miura, which has never even touched motorsport, nor does it look crazy at all either, yet gets put on the pedestal for some reason (yeah, it is beautiful and has a transversely rear-mid-mounted V12 as a road-going production car that pioneered a category, but that's...all? Seems kind of superficial, because it's not greater than other groundbreaking/revolutionary cars that pioneered the equivalents of it in their own way. Even the Benz-Patent Motorwagen is greater than it.). "No Murci", on the other hand, to be so immensely accomplished in a SINGLE race...


I wonder how many years it'd naturally take for the evolution of top Le Mans cars (actively competing ones) to outperform the "No Murci" in terms of pace and lap times.


From a fan to fellow fans. Ultimate fan service (greater than "Marvel"/"MCU" gifting its fans "Spider-Man: No Way Home").


Due to ALL that, think of the future value of that car (beside its road-going and GT1 cousins) and the way it'd be presented in museums.


All in all, "One of Le Mans GOATs" crown earned: A MASSIVE pioneer (massive, because it turns the whole motorsport world on its head fundamentally), achievements galore, and just like the Camaro, MC (main character) energy and "Garage 56" swagger - but now with a Lambo flair. A spectacle of a never-before-seen magnitude, dwarfing the Camaro hype so significantly like it's nothing. Had the "No Murci" been realized, triumphed, and some enthusiast made a cinematic tribute video (with dynamic camera angles - TV, track-side, aerial shots, and onboards, showcasing it in all its glory: driving by, pitting, overtaking, lapping, the works) on "YouTube", I suggest "Switchback" (by Celldweller, original 4:35 version) as BGM to put emphasis on domination and swagger of it - a 18yo legend and icon from the 2000s - whooping asses of the 2027 machinery. The hype and cheers I predict by the fans watching it all? Likely insane (considering the scope of it all).


But if someone made a documentary about the "Garage 56" history and the "No Murci" part comes on, with a heli shot of it speeding out of the pits on the Test Day, I suggest "Let It Whip" (original 3:52 version by "SR-71") as BGM, to put the emphasis on the car's fundamental origin (2001) and the prospect of something from 2009 taking on the modern era.


If it had a theme song, I think this one would fit - "Leave The World Behind" (by Axwell, Ingrosso, Angelo, Laidback Luke ft. Deborah Cox). I mean, the lyrics:


"Leave the world behind you


People, can you hear me?
There is a message that I'm sending out
I've got the answers to all your problems
And tonight I'll be singing it loud
Just surrender yourself to the rhythm
Put your hands up in the sky
Feel the energy deep inside your system
And leave this world behind


Leave the world behind you [2x]


Yeah


Leave the world behind you [5x]


And leave this world behind


Leave the world behind you [6x]


And leave this world behind"


The song title alone says it all. "The world" in it could also mean "everyone else" (i.e. the rest of the grid). No need for elaboration by "Reiter Engineering", "JLOC", or its drivers. Just pedal to the metal and occasional "Out of our way!". 😏
 
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