Upgraded from G923 to G PRO.... Pretty underwhelming

[G35_Skyline]

Every comment I've read from people who done this upgrade say it's a "night & day" difference...I disagree...

Pedals are smoother and FF is stronger, that's about it...
You can feel a bit more details over the g923 but not a huge difference.. quiet operation...

Maybe because I've been using these G wheels since the early 2000's I've gotten so used to them, and the PRO is my first DD wheel..
But what am I missing here guys?
Is the g923 that good, or is the Pro lacking something...

 

[LOGI_Rich]

Hi there.

A couple of questions on in-game settings - what do you have the following set to?

P1 Vibration: on or off?
Vibration: 0 - 150 - where is it set?

Force Feedback Max Torque: 1 - 10 where is it set?
Force Feedback Sensitivity: 1 - 10 where is it set?

 

[G35_Skyline]

Hi there.

A couple of questions on in-game settings - what do you have the following set to?

P1 Vibration: on or off?
Vibration: 0 - 150 - where is it set?

Force Feedback Max Torque: 1 - 10 where is it set?
Force Feedback Sensitivity: 1 - 10 where is it set?

Hi, appreciate the reply, vibration 100, Torque at 4, and Feedback at 10...
The rest of the settings I used were from here...

https://www.dg-edge.com/articles/gu...h-g-pro-wheel-settings-for-gran-turismo-7/508

 

[LOGI_Rich]

And P1 vibration is On?

Have you tried multiple car types? Torque at 4 is a good figure for Gr.x in order to mitigate oscillation from GT's wheel centering model, but for road cars you can definitely go much higher. I will always recommend FFB Sensitivity to be set at 1 - it helps mitigate oscillations further and feels more natural than 10. Digit completely disagrees with me on that one though, which is fine - FFB is a very personal thing 😊

 

[i386]

I wouldn't use GT7 as a reference to test gear or belt driven agaisnt direct drive wheelbases ._.
Too many updates that had massive impact on the feedback, some to the point where everything felt like driving on ice.

If you can try other sims/games on console or (better) pc. Rfactor2 & Le Man Ultimate have the "best" force feedback according to different forums and reddit

 

[Daz555]

Probably worth trying

Every comment I've read from people who done this upgrade say it's a "night & day" difference...I disagree...

Pedals are smoother and FF is stronger, that's about it...
You can feel a bit more details over the g923 but not a huge difference.. quiet operation...

Maybe because I've been using these G wheels since the early 2000's I've gotten so used to them, and the PRO is my first DD wheel..
But what am I missing here guys?
Is the g923 that good, or is the Pro lacking something...

I assume this is in GT7? If so it's probably a significant aspect as to why you are finding the upgrade a little disappointing.

 

[Nicko]

Don't think you're the only one - I recently made the switch to the DD Pro 8nm from my G923 (first was a G25 in 2008). Switched straight back to the Logi. Absolutely loathed it, sent it back.

 

[effenberg]

1. DD wheels have all those settings that, if set wrong, just kill the FFB. Don't take them lightly

2. Some cars, specially heavy ones like RCF, damp the FFB. Try driving the RCF then Ferrari Gr3, without any assists

3. GT has this FFB strategy of providing "info" thru the FFB. Like wheel gets lighter when you are losing grip, wheel vibrates if you are locking the tires, so on. Think of it as a "path":

a) medium weight on the straight
b) bit heavier on corner entry
c) wheel shakes a bit on pushing grip
d) wheel shakes a lot if understeer (pushing too much)
e) wheel goes numb if lost all grip

And it goes like a -> b -> c -> d -> e

The difference from a basic wheel (G29) to a good one (G Pro) is that a basic goes from A to D or E, skipping B or C. Thats what you gain with a better wheel, this "mid" stages. But as both have A and D, you may think nothing changed.

4. If you are an aggressive driver that turns the wheel too much and violently, you won't feel B or C, only A and D. So you won't take any extra advantage the wheel is giving you.

5. Also low/wrong settings may hide B and C, and maybe even E. Or high settings, as you could be clipping the wheel, or fighting it too much to notice.

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In resume I would understand someone that can't see any difference between low and high graded wheels, besides strong FFB, as (1) settings and (2) bad habits can hide the difference.