Veyron: Disappointment?

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I wasn't disappointed by the Veyron... I always knew it was a POS so I wasn't expecting anything better in GT5.
 
An undrivable heap in real life?, you wanna exaggerate some more? Thing is very fast considering its weight, very stable, amazing traction, its just fat, but its still one of the fastest track cars available on the road. The supersport version will beat anything on the road around a track, despite also being fat. I'm no fan of the veyron or ultimate aero, but that is a completely different car, besides being slower it is a track car that is road legal, where as the Veyron is a road car that happens to be good on the track. Next up, a W16 engine is not 2 V8 engines stuck together. Next up, the size of the engine to produce the power is partly due to them having to make the car to last, you push that V8 in the aero too far and its gonna break, the more power you push out of it the more likely that is to happen. Basicly, bigger engines running at lower output mean less stress on the engine so more reliability. The whole point of the Veyron was that it wasnt just some track car with parts that need to be replaced every 5minutes, that it was a road car that could be used as one.
 
Anything can have good traction with AWD and fatty tires. Lots of HP will make any car faster on the road. The track? You get a Hennessey GT1000 and I'm certain it would blow the doors off the SS. Actually get your facts straight. It is two v8s stuck together. VW couldn't build an engine to reach over 1000hp, thats why they had to put two together. It wasn't to make it last a long time.
 
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Acquire
I hope they add the SS version as a premium later on. It may turn better than the regular version, and at least this way it would be cool to see the inside of it.
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I doubt they will. Most likely will see it in GT6 knowing the nature of PD and Kaz ("we will try not to include it in the game unless we're doing it absolutely right") + they did say that GT6's development time won't be as long as GT5.

On the other hand wasn't there front page story on DLC where you can get premium versions of standard cars?

In either case don't hold your breath :lol:
 
zachthemaniac
Okay, I understand the original post sounded kind of n00bish, but what I was trying to say was that after beating a tough series, I expected to get a car that could actually be put to good use. Even in this respect, the car is utterly disappointing.
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All of the other cars you win are useless, why not this one? I found that out early on with the Shelby Cobra.
 
zachthemaniac
Just beat GT World Championship and was pretty excited when I found my new Veyron in the delivery truck. I thought I could beat Like The Wind, only to find it severely lacked in the acceleration department, despite having over 950 horsepower. In addition, the thing suffers from a bad case of understeer, so I had to slow down way more than everyone else on the Indy course. What are your thoughts on this car? :mad:
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Are you sure you were driving a Veyron. I mean the acceleration and top speed is its strongest points, and it does both way above average. I think the Veyron accelerates faster than most race cars in the game as well. As for it having understeer, what did you expect? Its freaking 2 tons. Its a boat. It was never meant to be able to turn like a KTM X-bow.
 
Bigbazz
An undrivable heap in real life?, you wanna exaggerate some more? Thing is very fast considering its weight, very stable, amazing traction, its just fat, but its still one of the fastest track cars available on the road. The supersport version will beat anything on the road around a track, despite also being fat. I'm no fan of the veyron or ultimate aero, but that is a completely different car, besides being slower it is a track car that is road legal, where as the Veyron is a road car that happens to be good on the track. Next up, a W16 engine is not 2 V8 engines stuck together. Next up, the size of the engine to produce the power is partly due to them having to make the car to last, you push that V8 in the aero too far and its gonna break, the more power you push out of it the more likely that is to happen. Basicly, bigger engines running at lower output mean less stress on the engine so more reliability. The whole point of the Veyron was that it wasnt just some track car with parts that need to be replaced every 5minutes, that it was a road car that could be used as one.
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This says, hi! And it's nearly 20 years old...

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Thing is I've ACTUALLY driven a Veyron. Unfortunately GT5 doesn't replicate the driving experience a Veyron provides. Most cars on here do though. The Veyron's finesse and raw power can't be justified by the GT5 physics, not even close.
 
veyron wasn't much of a supercar like the way it is portrayed by the media. there's nothing really special in it, except the 1000hp quad turbo engine.
 
MadBullBunny
Anything can have good traction with AWD and fatty tires. Lots of HP will make any car faster on the road. The track? You get a Hennessey GT1000 and I'm certain it would blow the doors off the SS. Actually get your facts straight. It is two v8s stuck together. VW couldn't build an engine to reach over 1000hp, thats why they had to put two together. It wasn't to make it last a long time.
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Pure comedy!
 
Hennesey Venom > Buggati Veyron. For all of the Veyron's flaw's it is a piece of history. I prefer the McLaren F1 philosophy. Sensible power (640BHP i think) and low weight. If there is one car i want as DLC though, it would have to be the Hennesey Venom GT.

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ZR1 Corvette motor in a lotus Elise? yes please!
 
MadBullBunny
It annoys me how the Gayron is the only vehicle in the used car dealership with 0 miles on it.
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Thats probaly because they couldn't give it the premium treatment. On one of the top gear episodes the one where they test out the buggati's top speed they wanted to take it around the the test track. Bugati wouldn't even let the stig drive it. They probaly are limited and it is Out of the question to loan a 1.5 million dollar car to a bunch of nerds.

The Veyron is what it is, a straight line car. If you want something close to a thousand horsepower and has handling tune a different car, and guess what THERE ARE BETTER CARS. I haven't tried it in this game but I had a Mitsu 3000gt VR-4 that had a thousand horsepower in GT4. Does that mean the car was the best car in the game… no. Because you can't beat gravity. You want to beat a racecar use a racecar.
 
onearmbandit
Did they, like, use that really strong supaglue, you know that stuff that can lift an elephant! Or just lots of gaffer tape?
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Who knows what VW used to make their engine. Wasn't a good design though. ;) Elephant glue would be my thought of what holds it together. xD In all truth it isn't two v8 blocks. Its one big block, but two cam shafts which is the exact same thing as just putting two v8s together. Thats why people say that.
 
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zachthemaniac
Okay, I understand the original post sounded kind of n00bish, but what I was trying to say was that after beating a tough series, I expected to get a car that could actually be put to good use. Even in this respect, the car is utterly disappointing.
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If you play online half of the lobbies are tunnel drag and I let bob use in the French series, so I found one use I should of bought mine for the 2 mil and made a thread about it. (Nothing against the current topic)
 
Bigbazz
Thankyou for linking my favourite car, it is a bit offtopic, but i am happy to see it again.
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Not sure how it's offtopic. You said the Veyron SS would beat anything on the road around a track. So I posted a street legal car that would smoke an SS.
 
For me the veyron in game handles better than the mclaren f1 because it's predictable, the mclaren sort of spins it's wheels way too much before moving.

The hennsessy viper thing is a piece of junk in my opinion. It's an exige, overpowered exige, no imagination in the body of the car what so ever. The mclaren is sleek and sexy, the veyron is sleek luxurious, very fast, and combines the two very well where as the hennessy is more of a project car at the moment. Just my opinion though. Dont'e get me wrong it is a sexy car the exige but it's still no imagination, no originality.
 
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MrDinosaw94
Hennesey Venom > Buggati Veyron. For all of the Veyron's flaw's it is a piece of history. I prefer the McLaren F1 philosophy. Sensible power (640BHP i think) and low weight. If there is one car i want as DLC though, it would have to be the Hennesey Venom GT.

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ZR1 Corvette motor in a lotus Elise? yes please!
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one minor correction its an exige, not an elise but glad someone else has heard of it
 
CarolinaBlue704
Not sure how it's offtopic. You said the Veyron SS would beat anything on the road around a track. So I posted a street legal car that would smoke an SS.
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As much as i dont like to say it, a Mclaren F1 would not smoke a SS Veyron, infact im pretty certain most top end supercars would outperform it. It runs on thinner tyres, it is optimsed for comfort on the road, its not very aerodynamic (hence the longtail version being developed for racing), its wild and unruly by reputation and while it wouldnt be slow, and while it would possibly beat the standard veyron on a few tracks it would not touch the SS.

I dont even like the Bugatti Veyron, but i am also not ignorant to the facts and figures, various tests, timed laps etc that it has done. VW own Bugatti, but VW are not Bugatti.

Was the Ferrari Enzo built by Fiat? No, it was not.
 
Bigbazz
As much as i dont like to say it, a Mclaren F1 would not smoke a SS Veyron, infact im pretty certain most top end supercars would outperform it. It runs on thinner tyres, it is optimsed for comfort on the road, its not very aerodynamic (hence the longtail version being developed for racing), its wild and unruly by reputation and while it wouldnt be slow, and while it would possibly beat the standard veyron on a few tracks it would not touch the SS.

I dont even like the Bugatti Veyron, but i am also not ignorant to the facts and figures, various tests, timed laps etc that it has done. VW own Bugatti, but VW are not Bugatti.

Was the Ferrari Enzo built by Fiat? No, it was not.
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I think most modern super cars would leave the F1 in the dust now. Nothing being taken from the F1 as it is still the fastest NA car.
 
Bigbazz
As much as i dont like to say it, a Mclaren F1 would not smoke a SS Veyron, infact im pretty certain most top end supercars would outperform it. It runs on thinner tyres, it is optimsed for comfort on the road, its not very aerodynamic (hence the longtail version being developed for racing), its wild and unruly by reputation and while it wouldnt be slow, and while it would beat the standard veyron on a few tracks it would not touch the SS.

I dont even like the Bugatti Veyron, but i am also not ignorant to the facts and figures, various tests, timed laps etc that it has done. VW own Bugatti, but VW are not Bugatti.

Was the Ferrari Enzo built by Fiat? No, it was not.
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LOL... That was not an ordinary McLaren F1 I posted. It was the F1's bigger, badder brother. Kinda how the SS is the standard Veyron's bigger brother...

And yes, it would smoke an SS.
 
Wow. What's really disappointing is this thread.

The Veyron is a standard. Like Cavalryblood said, I'm sure Polyphony had a difficult time getting extensive access to test it and generate accurate performance data...so even if it had been a premium instead of a copied-over GTPSP car, it would likely have been the least-accurate premium of the whole lot. Yet it is a copied-over standard, which pretty much sealed its fate as a rolling box with the most basic of specifications.

The standards in this game are not meticulously-crafted facsimiles of the real deal (though premiums aren't perfect either). What you're driving is not the Veyron, but a heavy 1000hp car with a Veyron body. It might as well be a boosted-up Lexus or something. The flaws and shortcomings of the game's physics engine only exacerbate the problem, but like the Prius' custom-simulated hybrid system, PD could have made the Veyron more (realistically) competitive if they were able to spend more time and attention on it.

I'm not even going to try defending the real car, because no one will ever be able to change all of your opinions of the Veyron being an "overweight, useless piece of crap." I will say, though, that it's rather petty and childish to vehemently dismiss any proof of its abilities (like the Top Gear laptimes) based on your experiences in a videogame. :rolleyes:
 
CarolinaBlue704
LOL... That was not an ordinary McLaren F1 I posted. It was the F1's bigger, badder brother. Kinda how the SS is the standard Veyron's bigger brother...

And yes, it would smoke an SS.
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You have no idea what you're talking about, the LM is basicly a standard road version with a slightly more powerful engine and a bodykit slapped on it, slightly faster acceleration via a different gear ratios, lower top speed. The SS is more than double its power.

The Mclaren F1 is old, it is not as fast as modern supercars, even the Ferrari F50 was faster around a track than a standard F1, that car was less powerful. There are many modern supercars such as the Zonda F, Gumpart Apollo, Ascari A10 and other track cars and supercars that will all outperform the Mclaren on many tracks, and yes even the LM, it was not that special as a track car compared to todays standards.


The Mclaren F1 GTR and GTR Longtail versions are race cars (not road cars) and would fair better on a track, but im still going to question whether the might of a car with double the power can be beaten by those dated much lower powered machines.
 
F1 > Veyron. the McLaren F1 pretty much defined what a supercar should really be. not just something that's expensive and/or exclusive with a pretty brand name.
 
xNEVER-ONEx
How?
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It's an F1 LM, 700BHP, and weighs less i*think. It was in NFS hot pursuit 2. Before anyone jumps down my throat about NFS, i was only like 10 and that was and still is a very fun game.


Buick Special62
one minor correction its an exige, not an elise but glad someone else has heard of it
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Elise or Exige doesn't REALLY matter. Hennessey basicaly redid the whole thing anyway :). thanks for the correction though.
I cant wait for it to demolish the Veyron, FXX & Ascari around the Top Gear Track. oh and it will probably beat the Renault F1 car too ;)
 
Novice
F1 > Veyron. the McLaren F1 pretty much defined what a supercar should really be. not just something that's expensive and/or exclusive with a pretty brand name.
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Like it or not, but the Veyron is last decade's F1. A lot of us grew up idolizing the F1, but people like my little brother grew up idolizing the Veyron. And to say the Veyron is nothing but a over priced luxury car is wrong.
 

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