Watch Live: 2020 FIA Certified Gran Turismo Online Championship World Final Nations Cup [spoilers]

problem is that Miazyono score this prefinal 11 points without racing against bracer and in proper final he lost with him and still becoma champion, bracer was robbed imho

 

Again, I know this. I don't think it's right.

 

I enjoyed watching the racing quite a bit.
The productions were all very high quality. The racers conducted themselves very well on track from what I saw.
Not enough can be said about the AWESOME job done by the entire announcing crew. Pretty much my favorite part is the addition of great announcing to GTS.
My only nitpick would be a few times the camera cut away from something I wanted to see, but there’s a lot going on.
It was great everyone involved pulled this thing off.
I look forward to more in the future with a live crowd, and celebrity pro racer visits.
To me everyone knew the rules. The same scoring applied to all.
I mean you couldn’t do the total opposite what would that be? One race winner take all?
I think points achieved over time is a fair way to find out whose the best. To me as a viewer unless I hear complaints from the competitors themselves it seems fair.

 

Like others have said, it doesn't matter if WT participants knew the rules before the events....it doesn't make this particular structure a good idea and it's not like the participants had a choice in the rule set other than not participating, which isn't really a choice. That's a point that doesn't conflict with or defeat the notion that the points structure was bogus.

I understand wanting to give some value to the prior events, but at the end of the day, the person who performs the best at THE WORLD FINALS should be the one who is the world champion. As it stands, Gallo performed the best at the finals, better than Miyazono, but Miyazono won. Doesn't make a lot of sense unless you are a fan of mental gymnastics.

Not to take anything away from the participants or the event itself. They were great and I thought the recent events were all top notch with very few exceptions, one being the points system.

 

I had to laugh because it was just too similar to A New Hope's ending scene, with the poses of the PD staff and
the orchestral music and everything

 

Gotta respect your home's national anthem, man. Heh.

Btw, I've pointed this out on Twitter and in a recent status update, but the blond spiky-haired man standing behind Kaz may be Daiki Kasho. Not only do I recognize his face a bit (the eyes, specifically), but he seems to be wearing the same shirt from last year (albeit a different color) when Jordan, Hizal, and the others toured PD's HQ.

I'm slightly disappointed that there is no GT7 trailer, but at least I got to see my favorite rock artist here standing with PD. If it's indeed him, that is.

 

Points World Tour is a shame.

 

Didnt Myiazono win the championship by 3 points?It wasn't a massive advantage.

While i agree that the world tours should serve only as a ticket to the finals,Gallo still could've won if he had a better result in race 2 same goes for serrano that had a unfortunate race 3 result.

 

Points aside, the racing was good.

I enjoyed the strategical battle of Tokyo Expressway, that “rehearsal” of the final straight reminded me of when I’d do oval racing in various games, finding the limit and preparing for the final lap.

 

lost by 3 points but because of counting some previous regional wt he won, bizzare rules

 

What a weird hill to die on. Moderator arguing a point that nobody disagrees with, in a thread where a moderator’s input is neither needed nor wanted. Like yeah, everybody understands that the rules were set long before the event. Doesn’t change the fact that they are dumb rules one bit.

Also, sure, the choice to participate is a choice. But when one option is to not participate, it’s not much of a choice. Didn’t think I’d have to defend the semantics of that claim...but apparently I do, because Famine. LOL. Go on with your bad self, guy.

 

Here's the thing with that - I'm pretty certain Miyazono knew the math going into the final race and knew he only had to finish 2nd to win the whole thing. The dude's obviously on top of the math, logic and strategy and all that. He didn't put up a fight when Gallo overtook him, something we know he's completely capable of.

Basically, my point being that you're going to have a hard time convincing me that Gallo had the best performance at the World Final. To me, Miyazono's win at Tokyo was more impressive than Gallo's win at Fuji. If Miyazono had actually put a fight at the end at Le Mans, then sure Gallo had the best performance as he won head to head. But being that the point structure was the way that it was - and it seems very apparent that Miyazono was more aware of that than Gallo (who thought he had won it all when he crossed the line at Le Mans) - we essentially had to drivers running different races.

Is the point structure bad? Absolutely. Based on what I saw this morning should Gallo be the World Champ rather than Miyazono? That I don't know. And for the reasons I stated above, we won't ever actually know.

 

it looked to me like Miyazono covered the inside heading into (is it Indy?). Obviously Gallo would go for the move, but it was looking like Miyazono was trying to set up the pass in the draft on the straight before the Porsche curves, but it didn’t work out as he didn’t get a great exit there. I’m pretty convinced he was still trying to win but wasn’t going to do anything crazy to get it.

 

I don't think miyazono was racing for second place for me it looked like he ran out of corners,miyazono was gaining on gallo but wasn't close enough for the pass at the last chicanes,you're assuming miyazono knew the championship standings but things were changing too fast,Serrano was a contender before race 3 and had a chance to win.It wasn't set in stone.

 

That's kind of what I mean. To me, if he was actually trying to win he would've done more to try and win. He made some efforts, sure. What racer isn't going to a least try? But to me, it was more important to him to not do anything stupid and potentially blow a guaranteed second and world title.

Serrano was way back in the pack. I'm pretty sure Miyazono knew that.

Yes, I am making a lot of assumptions. But given what I've seen of all these racers over the WT events this year, I don't think they're crazy assumptions.

 

Yeah he did try but he wasn't risking it. if ppl watched the Manufacture final you would know what we mean. And there is a nice interview with. Miyazono made comments regarding the points going in into the final I recommend you guys watch it

 

Yours is the one that's neither needed nor wanted if you're going to have an attitude like this. He may be a mod but he has just as much of a right to share his thoughts on things as the average forum member. If the Moderator title intimidates you, that's your problem but he's a person like the rest of us.

 

I was hoping for better luck for Miyazono since that fateful crash with Cody at Spa.

Congrats, Takuma!

 

Point system aside i think we got the correct champion. He deserved this and imho has been part of taking the racing to a new level.

 

nope, Gallo won finals so he deserved to be champion even tough Miyazono is also amazing driver

I watched, no comments regarding bs rules but it's not Miyazono that created them so he doesn't have to comment it

 

And that settles that. Indeed it was a series of events under the banner of The World Tour 2020 to crown the eventual winner of same.
Miyazano became indeed The World Tour 2020 Champion...and quite deservedly so.
I will never forget Miyazano nor this tournament. Both will remain an indelible memory. Fraga, Hizal and now Miyazano. Wow. Top class.
Gotta watch Serrano and Gallo.

Coming back to Miyazano, I'm wondering if he'll eventually get an offer for real world racing like Fraga.

 

Well congrats to the nations cup winner, really was a very interesting set of races to watch particularly Tokyo in the wet with the Porsche's.

Reminds me that I always need to be constantly practicing when it comes to wet weather conditions in the game, I'd have been off quite a few times during that race.

 

Sensible discussion would be to not argue with posters who are bringing up valid complaints about the points system. Continuously bringing up the non-congruent point that the rules were set months ago doesn’t seem very linear or sensible. Like your point exists and does not conflict with or negate the fact that many people disagree with the scoring. And telling them that now is not the time to complain is pretty silly as well. Implying that complaints are better suited to a different time, a time before the event took place, when drastically fewer people knew about the bogus scoring, is misplaced. I only bring up the mod status because this is literally what you do all the time. You passive-aggressively attack people with complaints about the game as if they are some kind of political dissidents and you’re the enforcer. So go ahead and keep making your non-points as if they are some kind of valid argument against these criticisms, even though nobody disagrees with you that the system was already in place months ago. Doesn’t change anything. It’s still a silly way to do it, and many people agree with this even if you think now is not the time to do so. One can congratulate the winners and celebrate the success of the event while also disagreeing with some aspects of it. This is a video game forum, and that’s what people do.

lol, ok buddy

 

It's not a comment on the rules, it was his comments on being aware of the points situation going into the final race and during the last lap knowing that not finishing third was more important than winning. Essentially over the last half lap or so, he raced to finish second - or better if the opportunity presented itself but he knew that it was more important to not finish third than it was to win. Like I said in comments above, that clearly changed how he raced at the end. Basically, he and Gallo were racing two different races at that point so a head to head comparison isn't really appropriate.

I'm not taking anything away from Gallo and his accomplishments at this event. But again, like I stated above, you're going to have a hard time convincing me that Gallo was clearly the better driver over the course of the event and therefore more deserving of the world title.

 

Where were all these complaints when the season started?