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What sort of times should I be looking at getting around monza then?
Next race on 27th so not to clash with my event
EDIT: Just noticed the reg changes. I'm surprised you changed both the Pug and the Bentley. I thought the problem was the Pug was suffering under acceleration rather than the Bentley's overall speed. I'm not complaining, I'm just interested in how you came to the decision (I believe that to be within my right to ask?)
What sort of times should I be looking at getting around monza then?
I was wondering too. In both classes
I haven't jumped on circuit at these reg's yet with my LMP, But GTE would be around the 1.45s I believe,
The only thing that surprised me about it was that Memto said he was struggling against both me and jonny that were out pacing him out of corners... It was just a note, nothing more
I haven't jumped on circuit at these reg's yet with my LMP, But GTE would be around the 1.45s I believe,
Running full damage, I'm inclined to use as much down force as I can to keep the car under control.
After reading this I immediately went to test. I ran consistant low 1:50's and was obviously a bit discouraged.
Then I noticed in the OP that the R8 was allowed a 20HP upgrade for Monza and breathed a sigh of relief. After adjusting the HP up I set back out to test. Funny, the car didn't seem much faster than it was at 443HP. I kept running the same low 1:50's until I was finally able to click off a 1:49.896. Now I was more than a bit discouraged and quite confused. I checked my top speed going into parabolica and then again at the end of the main straight just at the brake point. Then adjusted the HP back down from 463 to 443 and checked the top speed numbers again. To my surprise, adding the 20HP gained a net increase of 1 mph at the end of both straights. Running full damage, I'm inclined to use as much down force as I can to keep the car under control. Even so, I would expect a larger effect from adding 20HP but it's not the case with the Audi.
ANFD.
I won't be able to make the next 2 races due to work. If someone wants to join this series, let them have my car. I'll even give them my tune if they need one!
Just realised the Grand Am series I'm in only has 3 races left, so I should only be at the risk of not finishing one more race in this series. So you may as well have me down for full time now.
Ok mate, will do,
Aren't you in TOCA as well?
But 1 mile an hour on the straight? with 20 bhp more, wow that's a bit.... crust! If you haven't already add the stage 3 engine and high output turbo, and please relay us your results,
Welcome to the World Endurance Championship, Taking sign ups, All set to start April 13th
HOW THINGS WORK
Room will open between 8:30PM GMT and 9PM GMT Saturday evening, The room will be hosted by either myself TDZdave or Memto89,
LMP and GTE Multiclass event, 8 Cars per class, Races would last around an hour and 15 minutes too an hour 30 minutes, with 2 Endurance races, Lasting around 2 hours 30 minutes,
Qualifying, will be a 15 minute session followed by the race countdown timer for all circuits, Except Spa Francorchamps and Le Mans, In which will have a 20 minute qualifying followed by a 5 minute break for you to sort your food, fluid and bathroom commitments for an endurance event,
Also, The field will not be cleansed after qualifying, So if you are in an LMP car and have a horible run you cannot expect to be bumped up to the back of the LMP field, you will start where your qualifying time dictates,
Laps will be worked out to around the 1 hour 10 minute mark according to the LMP pole time, For Spa Francorchamps and Le Mans the laps will be sorted to the LMP pole time to the value of 2 hours 30 minutes,
Tires
Soft tires only, apart from intermediates and wets where required,
The Races, All races will have 1 full pace lap, Spa Francorchamps and Le Mans will not, Then all cars will fan out to a 2 by 2 file and will not go until the lead 2 reach painted grid slot 1 and the start/ finish line,
(Due to the long lap at Spa and Le Mans We may just turn around from the start line, Go backwards around the course and grid up then roll,)
(Also may do the traditional Le Mans standing start at Le Mans)
Overtaking and lapping, Be patient, overtaking points will come, You will never win the race on lap 1,
Lapping, GTE cars will be expected to maintain their line, It is up to their discretion to get out of an LMP cars way, "removing" them from the circuit will result in a penalty,
This is a championship, Points will only be awarded for top 5 only in each class, Bonus points maybe awarded for, Class Pole Position, class fastest lap, And class most laps led, and leading a lap at the start line,
Points are in this order
1st) 5
2nd) 4
3rd) 3
4th) 2
5th) 1
1 Point for pole and 1 for fastest lap of the race (Each category)
Double Points will be awarded for the two endurance races, You must complete 90% to claim any points,
Penalties will be dealt with accordingly per class steward, I TDZdave am the head steward, Memto89 is the LMP steward and Johnnyb is the GTE steward,
2) If an LMP causes a GTE car to spin or crash while lapping them, the LMP driver will either wait and allow the GTE driver to retake their position and get up to race speed before retaking them, Or have the time lost for the GTE car +2 seconds added to the final result time,
If you are not sure if you have recieved a penalty or warning from an event, They will be published at the bottom of the OP, they will be published by Monday evening after the race, If we have yet to come to a decision it will be published as TBD,
Corner Cutting Two wheels must remain on the black stuff at all times, (or kerbing) If it is deemed by us that you have been cutting corners you will be served a penalty pending how much it cut or how many times,
Also, Do not arrive in a "Hybrid" or "Hacked" vehicle, you will be removed on the spot! NO EXCEPTIONS!
THE CARS AND DRIVERS, There will only be one of each car,
These are always subject to change
In the event of a new driver/ 1 off appearance driver they may participate in any car not being used for that event,
All full time drivers will use the car they sign up in, unless they wish to drop back to GTE or elevate up to LMP,
Part time driver's are expected to use the vehicles they sign up for,
Any reserve drivers willing to participate on short notice must have access to most cars listed,
Vehicle rules, No additional turbo's or super chargers, Anyone caught using a Hacked/ Hybrid car will be promtly removed! DO NOT TEST MY PATIENT ON THIS!
LMP
DRIVER) TDZdave/ TDZ-4-12-14-88
Car) Audi R8 '01 532bhp 935kg,
DRIVER) Memto89/ Memto89
CAR) Peugeot 908 ORECA 532bhp 950kg,
DRIVER) Pluxtheduck/ Pluxtheduck
CAR) Bentley Speed 8- 542hp 940kg
DRIVER) Joetruckv8/ Joetruckv8
CAR) Peugeot 908- 542bhp 930kg,
DRIVER) Jonnyb1990/ Jonnyb1990
CAR) BMW LMR V12 532bhp 940kg,
DRIVER) StoneSea/ StoneSea
CAR) Pescarolo C60 Hybride 562hp 900kg
DRIVER) Rossington/ Long-haired-lout
CAR) TOYOTA GT-1 TS020 522hp 950kg
Remaining cars,
Pescarolo C60 GV5 '04 543bhp 900kg
GTE
DRIVER) Roadrunner1967/ T-n-T-2000
CAR) Viper #91 - 453hp 1300kg
DRIVER) Dolfindiamond/ Dolfindiamond
CAR) Corvette ZR1 RM- 463hp 1250kg
DRIVER) ANFD/ ANFD (Part time/ Reserve)
CAR) AUDI R8 LMS 443bhp 1300kg,
DRIVER) Braunracing88/ Braunracing88
CAR) Lamborghini Nomad Diablo 453bhp 1270kg
DRIVER) Knukken/ Knukken (Absent for rounds 2 and 3)
CAR) Pagani Zonda LM 453bhp 1280kg (This car is available for Monza and Spa)
DRIVER) F1WORLDCHAMPION
CAR) BMW M3 GTR 453hp 1250kg
DRIVER) Chozza_32/ Chozza_32 (part time)
CAR) Ford GT spec II 433hp 1300kg
DRIVER) I-was-ere/ I-was-ere
CAR) NISSAN Fairlady Z LM 443 bhp 1300kg,
THE ROUNDS
1) Deep Forrest, (Completed)
2) Monza,
3) Spa Francorchamps,
4) Fuji GT,
5) Cape Ring South,
6) Nurburgring,
7) Le Mans 2009,
8) Suzuka
9) Laguna Seca,
Any questions or queries just ask,
DRIVERS POINTS
LMP POINTS
plux - 6
John - 5
memto89 - 3
Lout - 2
Dave - 0
GTE POINTS
Chozza - 6
ANFD - 4
Dolphin - 3
OVERALL POINTS
Plux- 6
Chozza- 6
John- 5
ANFD- 4
Memto- 3
Dolfin- 3
Lout- 2
Dave- 0
TNT- 0
Warning and Penalties, These will stay up here on the OP as a record for us stewards,
TDZdave and TNT2000 will not recieve points for round 1 having not completing the minimal amount of laps to claim points,
DolfinDiamond, Taking a warning for multiple corner cutting during the race and possibly qualifying during round 1, We are unsure if we made it clear in the drivers briefing that certain track sections were classified as out of bounds, You will be monitored at Monza on this issue,
We are adjusting the OP accordingly to make the rules more clear on track boundaries,
VEHICLE MODIFICATIONS AND NEW SPEC'S,
These are always subject to change, If you are a one off driver these will not affect you, you will be spec'd at the regular car regulations, These are based on the driver's currently using the cars,
LMP CARS:-
The Bentley Speed 8 will be getting a 10kg increase in weight, now 542bhp at 950kg
The Peugeot 908 Oreca will get a 10bhp gain, making it 542bhp at 950kg
The Toyota TS020 GT-1 will get a 10bhp gain, making it 542hp at 950kg
GTE CARS:-
The AUDI R8 LMS will get a 20hp gain for Monza only, now 463hp at 1300kg
ANFD Is allowed stage 3 tuning and turbo on the Audi, (ANFD ONLY)
Welcome to the World Endurance Championship, Taking sign ups, All set to start April 13th
HOW THINGS WORK
Room will open between 8:30PM GMT and 9PM GMT Saturday evening, The room will be hosted by either myself TDZdave or Memto89,
LMP and GTE Multiclass event, 8 Cars per class, Races would last around an hour and 15 minutes too an hour 30 minutes, with 2 Endurance races, Lasting around 2 hours 30 minutes,
Qualifying, will be a 15 minute session followed by the race countdown timer for all circuits, Except Spa Francorchamps and Le Mans, In which will have a 20 minute qualifying followed by a 5 minute break for you to sort your food, fluid and bathroom commitments for an endurance event,
Also, The field will not be cleansed after qualifying, So if you are in an LMP car and have a horible run you cannot expect to be bumped up to the back of the LMP field, you will start where your qualifying time dictates,
Laps will be worked out to around the 1 hour 10 minute mark according to the LMP pole time, For Spa Francorchamps and Le Mans the laps will be sorted to the LMP pole time to the value of 2 hours 30 minutes,
Tires
Soft tires only, apart from intermediates and wets where required,
The Races, All races will have 1 full pace lap, Spa Francorchamps and Le Mans will not, Then all cars will fan out to a 2 by 2 file and will not go until the lead 2 reach painted grid slot 1 and the start/ finish line,
(Due to the long lap at Spa and Le Mans We may just turn around from the start line, Go backwards around the course and grid up then roll,)
(Also may do the traditional Le Mans standing start at Le Mans)
Overtaking and lapping, Be patient, overtaking points will come, You will never win the race on lap 1,
Lapping, GTE cars will be expected to maintain their line, It is up to their discretion to get out of an LMP cars way, "removing" them from the circuit will result in a penalty,
This is a championship, Points will only be awarded for top 5 only in each class, Bonus points maybe awarded for, Class Pole Position, class fastest lap, And class most laps led, and leading a lap at the start line,
Points are in this order
1st) 5
2nd) 4
3rd) 3
4th) 2
5th) 1
1 Point for pole and 1 for fastest lap of the race (Each category)
Double Points will be awarded for the two endurance races, You must complete 90% to claim any points,
Penalties will be dealt with accordingly per class steward, I TDZdave am the head steward, Memto89 is the LMP steward and Johnnyb is the GTE steward,
2) If an LMP causes a GTE car to spin or crash while lapping them, the LMP driver will either wait and allow the GTE driver to retake their position and get up to race speed before retaking them, Or have the time lost for the GTE car +2 seconds added to the final result time,
If you are not sure if you have recieved a penalty or warning from an event, They will be published at the bottom of the OP, they will be published by Monday evening after the race, If we have yet to come to a decision it will be published as TBD,
Corner Cutting Two wheels must remain on the black stuff at all times, (or kerbing) If it is deemed by us that you have been cutting corners you will be served a penalty pending how much it cut or how many times,
Also, Do not arrive in a "Hybrid" or "Hacked" vehicle, you will be removed on the spot! NO EXCEPTIONS!
THE CARS AND DRIVERS, There will only be one of each car,
These are always subject to change
In the event of a new driver/ 1 off appearance driver they may participate in any car not being used for that event,
All full time drivers will use the car they sign up in, unless they wish to drop back to GTE or elevate up to LMP,
Part time driver's are expected to use the vehicles they sign up for,
Any reserve drivers willing to participate on short notice must have access to most cars listed,
Vehicle rules, No additional turbo's or super chargers, Anyone caught using a Hacked/ Hybrid car will be promtly removed! DO NOT TEST MY PATIENT ON THIS!
LMP
DRIVER) TDZdave/ TDZ-4-12-14-88
Car) Audi R8 '01 532bhp 935kg,
DRIVER) Memto89/ Memto89
CAR) Peugeot 908 ORECA 532bhp 950kg,
DRIVER) Pluxtheduck/ Pluxtheduck
CAR) Bentley Speed 8- 542hp 940kg
DRIVER) Joetruckv8/ Joetruckv8
CAR) Peugeot 908- 542bhp 930kg,
DRIVER) Jonnyb1990/ Jonnyb1990
CAR) BMW LMR V12 532bhp 940kg,
DRIVER) StoneSea/ StoneSea
CAR) Pescarolo C60 Hybride 562hp 900kg
DRIVER) Rossington/ Long-haired-lout
CAR) TOYOTA GT-1 TS020 522hp 950kg
Remaining cars,
Pescarolo C60 GV5 '04 543bhp 900kg
GTE
DRIVER) Roadrunner1967/ T-n-T-2000
CAR) Viper #91 - 453hp 1300kg
DRIVER) Dolfindiamond/ Dolfindiamond
CAR) Corvette ZR1 RM- 463hp 1250kg
DRIVER) ANFD/ ANFD (Part time/ Reserve)
CAR) AUDI R8 LMS 443bhp 1300kg,
DRIVER) Braunracing88/ Braunracing88
CAR) Lamborghini Nomad Diablo 453bhp 1270kg
DRIVER) Knukken/ Knukken (Absent for rounds 2 and 3)
CAR) Pagani Zonda LM 453bhp 1280kg (This car is available for Monza and Spa)
DRIVER) F1WORLDCHAMPION
CAR) BMW M3 GTR 453hp 1250kg
DRIVER) Chozza_32/ Chozza_32 (part time)
CAR) Ford GT spec II 433hp 1300kg
DRIVER) I-was-ere/ I-was-ere
CAR) NISSAN Fairlady Z LM 443 bhp 1300kg,
THE ROUNDS
1) Deep Forrest, (Completed)
2) Monza,
3) Spa Francorchamps,
4) Fuji GT,
5) Cape Ring South,
6) Nurburgring,
7) Le Mans 2009,
8) Suzuka
9) Laguna Seca,
Any questions or queries just ask,
DRIVERS POINTS
LMP POINTS
plux - 6
John - 5
memto89 - 3
Lout - 2
Dave - 0
GTE POINTS
Chozza - 6
ANFD - 4
Dolphin - 3
OVERALL POINTS
Plux- 6
Chozza- 6
John- 5
ANFD- 4
Memto- 3
Dolfin- 3
Lout- 2
Dave- 0
TNT- 0
Warning and Penalties, These will stay up here on the OP as a record for us stewards,
TDZdave and TNT2000 will not recieve points for round 1 having not completing the minimal amount of laps to claim points,
DolfinDiamond, Taking a warning for multiple corner cutting during the race and possibly qualifying during round 1, We are unsure if we made it clear in the drivers briefing that certain track sections were classified as out of bounds, You will be monitored at Monza on this issue,
We are adjusting the OP accordingly to make the rules more clear on track boundaries,
VEHICLE MODIFICATIONS AND NEW SPEC'S,
These are always subject to change, If you are a one off driver these will not affect you, you will be spec'd at the regular car regulations, These are based on the driver's currently using the cars,
LMP CARS:-
The Bentley Speed 8 will be getting a 10kg increase in weight, now 542bhp at 950kg
The Peugeot 908 Oreca will get a 10bhp gain, making it 542bhp at 950kg
The Toyota TS020 GT-1 will get a 10bhp gain, making it 542hp at 950kg
GTE CARS:-
The AUDI R8 LMS will get a 20hp gain for Monza only, now 463hp at 1300kg
ANFD Is allowed stage 3 tuning and turbo on the Audi, (ANFD ONLY)