Week 59... For lack of a Better Name

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Originally posted by gt4
are you gonna make a seperate thread for this or no?
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nah....just run this on the side if you have time is all....I don't want to distract from the main weekly. Though if there is interest in Mini racing I may decide to run a "mini cup" which would be a series of like 3 races. I'd post that in it's own thread on the right board, if it happens i'll be sure to let everyone know.
 
After a few laps in my 620 hp road "brick", best clean lap is:

18.823 50.787

I should get this into the 49s, but 48s seem unlikely since I'll be firing up the race car after tonight.

@scuderia Am I understanding right that there is no PWR limit in the Mini side race?
 
Originally posted by HareTurtle
After a few laps in my 620 hp road "brick", best clean lap is:

18.823 50.787

I should get this into the 49s, but 48s seem unlikely since I'll be firing up the race car after tonight.

@scuderia Am I understanding right that there is no PWR limit in the Mini side race?
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Nope....just pack as many parts into as you can, that makes the Mini run around 178hp'ish...
 
I can not emphasize enough, that the Jaguar Xj220 is the biggest disapointment I've come across in GT3. What the hell good is a car that can go 220mph but can't friken turn or brake worth a damn. Man I hope Polyph got the programming wrong on this car because I'm a big fan of Jaguar styling.
 
The JagXJ220 beat my Nissan R390 Road car aroudn rome in testing yesterday, you ahve to learn to turn it with it's ass instead of the front wheels. It was the closest thing I found to the current Road Car I am using...

I am wondering though... what cars people are racing in, (daan and CFM) cause I have the feeling I have overlooked one... My GT40 Race Car just doesn't seem to cut it.... :-?
 
well my mini is coming along nicely although i know i can drop at least a second so far as my best T1 is .5 faster and that turn right after T1 my ghost caught right up to me so i know i can get it but so far this is what my mini is running

T1: 23.554
T2: 1:02.998

Best T1: 23.056
 
I'm going to attempt to get in on this one. I've got a load of work to get done this weekend, but am hoping to get a few laps in at some point.

This is right up my league, as I'll be running a Nice MR with 5-6 hundred HP. And Rome 2 is one of my favorites. Now to see if I can come through on that promise.

AO
 
Damn ya'll...

I just now found out that the gt40 race car is eligable for this race... oughta be interesting after this. :lol:

Yeah right.
I think I'm gonna spend my next few sessions running an rgt, then some more race car if I can get it in.
 
Link, can you suggest a setup for the Jaguar then? Getting the ass to come around has proven more difficult then I'd expect with a car this powerful.
 
Originally posted by HeinrichII
I hope that wasn't an April's fool joke, because you already stole me the idea :lol:
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Sorry to dissapoint, if I would have remembered it was April 1st I would have put up something a bit crazier.:p

I saw a 46.580 on a dirty lap in the same session, but that was pushing it to the point where it's about impossible to stay clean, right now I'm about .250 off my ultimate goal:cool:
 
Originally posted by Redline Fox
Link, can you suggest a setup for the Jaguar then? Getting the ass to come around has proven more difficult then I'd expect with a this powerful.
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If you want the rear of the car to rotate more try the following in any combination:

Softer front springs/stiffer rears
Lower ride height in front/ raise rear
-2.0 toe on rear wheels
Lower LSD Initial and Deccel to minimum
Increase rear brake bias, lower front bias

If I have a few minutes I'll run a few laps and see if I can come up with some ballpark setts for the XJ220.
 
< Easily distracted! :p

No progress in my "real" road car, but a few laps in the Mini:

22.960 1:01.987 (clean lap)

Think I saw a 22.5xx T1 fly by, but had a carnal canine encounter in a subsequent turn.
 
Originally posted by HareTurtle
< Easily distracted! :p

No progress in my "real" road car, but a few laps in the Mini:

22.960 1:01.987 (clean lap)

Think I saw a 22.5xx T1 fly by, but had a carnal canine encounter in a subsequent turn.
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oh man im getting crushed.


on my denso i manged to get a 17.6 and a 48.0 then i totally lost it into that last turn and threw my controller so for now i think i need a break.
 
Originally posted by Redline Fox
I can not emphasize enough, that the Jaguar Xj220 is the biggest disapointment I've come across in GT3. What the hell good is a car that can go 220mph but can't friken turn or brake worth a damn. Man I hope Polyph got the programming wrong on this car because I'm a big fan of Jaguar styling.
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There could be some programming error. I've seen on an English tv car series (top gear) that the XJ220 road car was a pretty decent car. It handled well, and hit over 210 mph stock. And doesn't the real life XJ220 have over 540hp? While GT3's XJ220 road car only have 501hp? Then again, I think there's a difference between bhp and hp. And why GT3 illustrates torque the way it does, I'll never understand...

I know the Jaguar XJ15 race car was pure crap, so maybe they mixed these two cars up, who knows.

Anyways, I'm a Canadian, so I'm no expert of English cars... well.. at least they 'used' to be English ;)
 
Hmmm... not sure there rick.

I think the xj15 was nice. Not sure though.

But about the xj220, it is indeed a good car in real life. I think the japanese programmers have issues with cars not of japanese origin.
(representation of all other nations is seriously lacking.)(except where ever that moster vertigo is from :confused: )
:lol:

Keep up the good work racers.
btw, the mini comp... excellent work scuderia. :D
 
Settings for the XJ220:

4.0 / 20.0
55 / 65
10 / 10
10 / 10
3.0 / 1.5
2.0 / -2.0
5 / 7
24 / 24
5 / 5 / 5
(gears are more or less arbitrary)
TCS = 1

If the ass doesn't come around on its own and turn the car, then I don't know what to tell you.
 
Well, personally I have no idea whether or not the XJ15 Race Car was any good (obviously), I just saw it on that Top Gear show. The test driver said it was awful. Uncontrollable oversteer and absolutely no sound deadening materials inside resulting in deafening loudness. And those test drivers (Tiff Needle and some other guy) seem to have pretty high credentials, so it's not like some teenager off the street giving his opinion. I don't believe everything I read or hear about a car cuz I can formulate my own opinions, but if that ex-race car driver can't keep the XJ15 from spinning out of control (and labelled the car the worst handling race car he's ever driven!), that must say something about the car's handling abilities.

Still... everyone's entitled to their opinion about the car :)
 
Hi everybody!
Ok. I drove some laps with the Lotus and the RGT. About 5 laps each. All i got was 51.x with both cars. I´ll be back with a time with the XJ220 Road car and maybe I´ll try some race car..
 
First chance i've had to make a run this week,decided to sort the race car first,T1 17.9 T2 47.9

not sure what to use for a road car,might try the TVR speed six if i can get it anywhere near PWR 2.000(sounds doable);)

@Scuderia 229-I'm in for the mini run,sounds :cool:

will spend rest of day in race car and maybe try some runs in the mini:D
 
Originally posted by missing link
Settings for the XJ220:

4.0 / 20.0
55 / 65
10 / 10
10 / 10
3.0 / 1.5
2.0 / -2.0
5 / 7
24 / 24
5 / 5 / 5
(gears are more or less arbitrary)
TCS = 1

If the ass doesn't come around on its own and turn the car, then I don't know what to tell you.
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The positive front toe induce understeer, no?
 
The positive front toe induce understeer, no?
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No.

With the front spring rate so low it induces a quicker turn-in, especially at high speed. This in turn helps out even more with turning the car with the ass. It however becomes a problem going over rumble strips, get too much onto the rumble strip and watch your ass come from behind you out in front of you to back behind you... really, really quickly.
 
i have a problem with my car...i am not 100% sure whow this has happened..

the car was new, 0km on the clock and i tuned it to have a pwr of slightly over 2. (2.068 i think)

after running a 30 or so laps in this road car i wanted to take a few snapshots and check out the specs....to my horror i noticed the pwr has slipped to 1.997

is this the result of breaking the car in? and can i still use it in the race?

i am a bit reluctant to let on what the car is but i can say that it is reddish...:) and has 4 wheels..(not including the steering wheel)

T1: 19.5xx
T2: 54.xx
 
Originally posted by TurboSmoke
i have a problem with my car...i am not 100% sure whow this has happened..

the car was new, 0km on the clock and i tuned it to have a pwr of slightly over 2. (2.068 i think)

after running a 30 or so laps in this road car i wanted to take a few snapshots and check out the specs....to my horror i noticed the pwr has slipped to 1.997

is this the result of breaking the car in? and can i still use it in the race?
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Alright, well, yes, that is break in for you.

And

No, you may not use that car once it has dropped below the 2.000 mark.

However, if the car is eligiable before break in, I suggest you just use the car for a bit of time, then go and reload the game so the car starts fresh again.

Take the weight of the car, and divide it by 2.0... that number will be the max hp you can have... then while you are racing, ocassionally check the settings screen with the hp number at the bottom... if you go over the hp mark, reset the game.

Good luck and keep up the work. ;)
Have fun.
 
Turbo Smoke

Yes, except for cars that you 'win' in a race series......all other cars have a break-in period in which the power increases up to about 160 + miles, then full power is reached and remains constant until around 400 miles or so (not sure of exact mileage) where it drops off gradually.

After buying a new car, the specs will change when you change oil, and as miles accumulate. Conversely, as your oil gets dirty power will drop off until it is changed. All these variables will require you to check on the condition of your oil, and the power to weight ratio from time to time until the car is fully broken in.

You may have to adjust your equipment in the 'change parts' window to meet the power to weight ratio as the car breaks in....but be careful not to let your car fall out of legality as changes occur.

I usually check the horsepower number at the bottom of the window when I go into the "settings' screen.....if the number has not changed, then I know the oil is okay.....if it's still increasing, I know breakin is still progressing.:)

TIP: As soon as your car is fully broken in and equipment is correct for the right power to weight ratio (around 160 miles) ...'Save the game'. Now you may race the car legally until miles accumulate and power begins to drop off due the excessive mileage.....when that happens.....DO NOT 'SAVE' the game but 'LOAD' instead.....this will bring your car back to the freshly broken in point at 160 miles again.

By doing this, you do not have to continually re-buy cars after they have been extensively used.
 
Some one might find this useful, I know it has for me as in being applicable to car modifcations in general.

RX7 RS
HP 574
PWR 2.073
T1 19.600
T2 52.401

RX7 RZ
HP 531
PWR. 2.032
T1 18.957
T2 51.404

Niether car has been setup all that finely and the RS still has'nt been fully broken in yet. The RZ has full weight reduction and the RS has only stage 1.
 
Boy, Rome always gives me a headache!:banghead: After banging into every wall in this place and trying desparately for a fast clean lap.....it just gets my head to hurting.

.".....wipper, sleppin, balldoggin,stink-o-bastin, screw-upper walls everywhere!":irked: :rolleyes:

Still trying to reach my potential with the race car.....I can do the 17.8-17.6 T1....but bythe time I get to T2.....I've blown it on some wall somewhere. So, let's make this race a 'one' sector race.....pack up and go home.:p :lol:
 
Just wanted to first off,
remind everyone to include your division with your time submissions.

And I also wanted to mention that the break in period really goes on until the 200 mile mark.
Trust me, setting up these races has forced me to find that out the hard way. (and at times, the easy like a rubber band around the controller kind of way.)

Oh yeah, if you guys are infact trying to get that car broken in... I suggest this.

Tune to the max, get on the test course.
Use an automatic and change the controller so that pushing up on the the right analoge stick will work as the accelerator.
Then hook up a rubber band to hold the analoge stick forward and let it run for about an hour...

come back from time to time so you can change the oil and check on progress...

That is what I have had to do for all of the tuning races, and it can be annoying, but I think everyone who got an ini file from me a few weeks back appreciated the effort, so... good luck and have fun with the race.

And keep at it emp, Im sure you can manage a clean lap in something. :D
 
Oh, I've got a few clean saves....it's just that I know they are .500 seconds minimum 'off' what I can do.

I don't know where that puts me in relationship to anybody else.....but if I'm a half second off what I can do....shame on me when it comes to pushing the envelope to catch anybody. That's the nature of my head banging!
:banghead:

I'm getting back at it now, so....let's see what happens.:odd: :D
 
Serious Emp, I'm feeling you on this one. It's like every other lap, if not every lap.. there's a bump on the wall, or a grazing of the beams.

It's annoying and irritating beyond belief.
 
Sorry to hear that fellas, but let me tell you what you already know. ;)

Practice is the only way to get around the problems you're having.

I am "good" on rome II thanks to sough running a "purchasable car @ rome II" race. (forget the name)

Spent a ton of time for about a solid week's worth of racing. Did alright in the results, but it was later on when I went back to rome II that I noticed the difference.

Now I can lap pretty clean for most laps... it's really just a matter of getting a t1 I will accept (or beating a ghost to t1), if I can do those, then I am good for the lap. (most of the time)

Then again, the section following the t1 straight also manages to take its toll... hence, I don't really get to make as many clean laps as it would sound based on what I said above.

I gotta ask, are you guys having road or race troubles?

You may wanna just take a break and move onto the other division, then again, you may want to just concentrate on one category.

I think what I will be doing is running a bad road lap just to submit one, and a real attempt at a race lap.

Anyway, gotta run, getting ready for school.
 
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