Weekly Challenge Discussion Thread

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First three races were fairly easy. I've been picking cars I simply enjoy driving atm, slightly below the suggested PP levels, and that's been more than enough for safe and clean wins. Now at Daytona, I just wasn't in a race mood so I decided to try a no stop strategy and take the win while the pack is in the pits. And it worked perfectly : Lexus VGT, RH, FM3 for 5 laps, FM2 to the line.

The Special Event is a whole different story. Don't get me wrong, I've been enjoying it, I like riding that little rocket ship, but it's been a good bit of work and practice since I didn't have any experience with the RJ161 ... or was it RA272 ?
After about 2 hours of driving and ( helplessly ) working on suspension, diff and transmission, I felt ok-ish with the car and finally won the race. No CRB though for two incidents :
1 When avoiding a complete pile up at the exit of Eau Rouge I've been cutting through the run off
2 Couldn't escape one of the AI cars who insisted on trading rubber
Still proud of that race as everything else was ( surprisingly ) quite ok.
And thanks in advance to @CTRL Garage - looking forward to test your promising setup !

Race 1 - Honda powered Abarth 595 SS '70 / CS / 478,55 PP / RT 3:55.524 / FL 1:17.415 ✅
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Race 2 - Subaru WRX STI Type S '14 / SH / 549,30 PP / RT 4:57.465 / FL 1:38.805 ✅
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Race 3 - Porsche Carrera GT '04 / SM / 649,00 PP / RT 7:18.517 / FL dito ✅
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Race 4 - Honda RA272 '65 / RH / 639,00 PP / RT 10:03.362 / FL 2:30.541 ❎
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Race 5 - Lexus LF-LC GT VGT '15 / RH / 799,80 PP / RT 17:39.048 / FL 1:43.674 ✅
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Back to Spa ? Coffee first ! No rain there thankfully ! :lol:
 
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sejtur
I’m pretty sure the AI has different physics. For example, I saw some impossible stuff from the AI in the replay of a grand valley 600 race on hard.
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The AI run different boost tables depending on the difficulty and event chosen. When @RACECAR mentioned the T1 collision with the AI it is because it hasn’t been amended when a boost table has been applied so it’s come into a corner with a lot more speed thanks to the boost, brakes at the same point it normally would and then runs wide.

It uses the same physics. They’re just boosted with their speed in relation to the player to artificially make the race “harder”.
 
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CTRL Garage
The AI run different boost tables depending on the difficulty and event chosen. When @RACECAR mentioned the T1 collision with the AI it is because it hasn’t been amended when a boost table has been applied so it’s come into a corner with a lot more speed thanks to the boost, brakes at the same point it normally would and then runs wide.

It uses the same physics. They’re just boosted with their speed in relation to the player to artificially make the race “harder”.
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I'm assuming this is also why the Inostroza Porsche in the WTC 800 race at Daytona also almost always overshoots turn 3 on lap 1.
 
CTRL Garage
The AI run different boost tables depending on the difficulty and event chosen. When @RACECAR mentioned the T1 collision with the AI it is because it hasn’t been amended when a boost table has been applied so it’s come into a corner with a lot more speed thanks to the boost, brakes at the same point it normally would and then runs wide.

It uses the same physics. They’re just boosted with their speed in relation to the player to artificially make the race “harder”.
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It’s not just a boost from what I’ve seen. The way I saw it go around corners is bending the physics.
 
sejtur
It’s not just a boost from what I’ve seen. The way I saw it go around corners is bending the physics.
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Got a video of it?
If you lose time to the AI on the straights it’s the boost, if you lose time to the AI in corners it’s you or the car choice or the cars setup.
 
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Got a video of it?
If you lose time to the AI on the straights it’s the boost, if you lose time to the AI in corners it’s you or the car choice or the cars setup.
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I may have saved the replay, it’s been a while. I’ll check it and if I don’t have it I may make a new one and upload it in the game.
 
i was losing time at the corners during the one make race and made some of it up at the straights with the default tires was 5-7 seconds faster with the grippier tires. the Carrera '95 had trouble accelerating on a wet ring track with sport tires.
 
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the first problem is that such cars shouldn't be able to be modified. No turbos, no soft slicks,
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I read this post three times to get the complete context of it and I have to disagree with the sentence above mainly in view of the "no soft slicks". In racing of the day and today you did have different grades of tyres to use during the race.
As for the AI and how they drive and how GT portrays the mechanical damage that can occur during race is how the programming is. There are limits to what can be accomplished in game, you cannot have wheels and suspension parts coming off the cars, it would tax the console in so much processing it would slow everything down.
Please think of the reality of processing power and what can be done...
 
Did they finally improve the frame rate drops that always seem to happen around the flags at Daytona during sunset? Every other time I've done the Daytona 800PP event there have been massively noticeable framerate drops towards the end of the race, but this time I didn't notice any on base PS5.
 
Another good set of races. Actually ran the Eiger race twice.

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I was about half way through the race, in this Clio, when I remembered, I had an "official" car, I should've been using. So ran it again.

458pp on SS tires. Low enough on power, that the incline on the back side of the track, was very noticeable, but still was able to take the lead, on the last lap.

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Took the van to Germany. Think is was around 550pp.

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Used the 997 for the Porsche race. The key to this one seemed to be, just don't wreck, and you'll win. Somehow managed to get the CRB, which was a surprise.

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This might've been the first time I drove this car, even though I made the livery for it, a while back.

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Unfair advantage, but I love driving the GT One. Detuned to 799pp, FM 6, on RH tires, and no stop.

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Another good set of races. Actually ran the Eiger race twice.

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I was about half way through the race, in this Clio, when I remembered, I had an "official" car, I should've been using. So ran it again.

458pp on SS tires. Low enough on power, that the incline on the back side of the track, was very noticeable, but still was able to take the lead, on the last lap.

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Took the van to Germany. Think is was around 550pp.

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Used the 997 for the Porsche race. The key to this one seemed to be, just don't wreck, and you'll win. Somehow managed to get the CRB, which was a surprise.

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This might've been the first time I drove this car, even though I made the livery for it, a while back.

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Unfair advantage, but I love driving the GT One. Detuned to 799pp, FM 6, on RH tires, and no stop.

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There's some wonderful liveries - respect, you got style !
 
Nations Cup is all done, so I had some time to do this week's challenges (hard difficulty... mostly).

My picks:
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I did them in my alternate account this week, since I still have a lot of events to complete and cars to obtain in that account. That's why the cars are numbered 79 instead of my usual 78.


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Eiger Nordwand - Abarth 500 '09 - Upgraded the tires and threw on a bunch of sports-level parts until it was close to the recommended 500PP. It was still a good fight. I only took the lead going into the final corner.


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Nürburgring Sprint - Nissan R34 GT-R V-spec II Nür '02 - Lots of upgrades to get the car to 600PP. This was an easy win.


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Nürburgring Nordschleife - Porsche 911 GT3 (996) '01 - Tuned up the limit: tires and sports-level upgrades, IIRC. I overtook the leader towards the end of the lap and was a bit worried they would take it back on the straight, but I had enough of a gap that I was safe. Fun race.


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Spa - Honda RA272 '65 - Upgraded the tires to RM and only managed a P3 finish. Good enough for the check mark. Not sure if I'll back and try for a win.


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Daytona - Ford GT Race Car '18 - This race was a bugger. First I tried 5RM-5RS, then 5RM-5RM, and then a no-tire-change 5RH-5RH (short-shifting at 50% of the rev bar to get fuel to last 5 laps). The best I could do was P4. Finally, I decided to drop the difficulty down to Normal. Did a no-tire-change 5RH-5RH for an easy win.
 
Yes ! ... slam dunk, touch down, home run, goal ! Couldn't believe it. After many many many attempts I finally succeeded stringing it all together. A clean win at Spa, hard race mode as always, running faster than 10 minutes. No turbo, no medium or soft compound. Just a very nice setup by @CTRL Garage , thanks again for this.

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Still learning about the car though so there's hope for some more improvement.
 
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ROCKET JOE
Yes ! ... slam dunk, touch down, home run, goal ! Couldn't believe it. After many many many attempts I finally succeeded stringing it all together. A clean win at Spa, hard race mode as always, running faster than 10 minutes. No turbo, no medium or soft compound. Just a very nice setup by @CTRL Garage , thanks again for this.

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Congratulations, not an easy race. I did it with RM but could'nt with Rh. Same conditoins as you. Will try your tune, thank you!
 
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ROCKET JOE
Yes ! ... slam dunk, touch down, home run, goal ! Couldn't believe it. After many many many attempts I finally succeeded stringing it all together. A clean win at Spa, hard race mode as always, running faster than 10 minutes. No turbo, no medium or soft compound. Just a very nice setup by @CTRL Garage , thanks again for this.

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You're , super duper bloody fast for an " old Camel " .
😂 and yes @CTRL Garage really transform that tube car.
 
ROCKET JOE
Yes ! ... slam dunk, touch down, home run, goal ! Couldn't believe it. After many many many attempts I finally succeeded stringing it all together. A clean win at Spa, hard race mode as always, running faster than 10 minutes. No turbo, no medium or soft compound. Just a very nice setup by @CTRL Garage , thanks again for this.

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Not as fast as you on this one! But appreciate the tune acknowledgment.
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this race is soo much fun!
 
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Didn't know so many people were struggling with the RA272. I don't find it to be the most fun thing to drive, but I was able to one-shot the race in a stock car on RH tires. I definitely struggled more at Daytona in Gr3s attempting to find a car that balances fuel usage and power well enough to make up the huge gap to the cars in front.

This thing just seems to be waaay more vague than it should be, and there is almost no steering weight or communication coming back through the wheel. It's too bad, because it's quite the experience in VR.

I think the RA must have been nerfed with the other open wheeled cars like the MP4/4. No more steering weight at all.

 
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Didn't know so many people were struggling with the RA272. I don't find it to be the most fun thing to drive, but I was able to one-shot the race in a stock car on RH tires.
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On hard they're quite variable on pace, one race I had them doing low 2:28 laps, I would've needed to be decently under 9:50 to win. I think the steering is a bit limited in the quicker corners on controller too, I ended up running minimum front and maximum rear ride heights just to try to get it to turn more.
 
My cars for the weekly races:
All on hard difficulty
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Sunday Cup @ Eiger: Stock BMW M3 '97. A different car with a little less power and sport tires in the place of the comfort would be better. Took the lead in the final corner of the final lap. :lol: CRB✅

Japanese 4WD @ Nurburgring Sprint: Stock Impreza Gr.B Road Car, 575PP. Easy Win. CRB✅

Porsche Cup @ Nordschleife: Stock GT3 RS (991) '16. Had a MASSIVE downpore (yellow/pink on the radar) from the 'straight' to Carrousel to about YouTube-corner. Tires could not manage and lost a chunk of time. From there it was drying but gap was to big... Ended 3rd +/- 4s behind. CRB🚩

Honda RA272 @ Spa: Suprisingly difficult for my stock Jim Clark Lotus 25-liveried. Took the lead at Fagnes of the 3rd lap and the AI managed to stay close so no mistakes were allowed. Won by 2s. CRB✅

WTC800 @ Daytona: De-tuned Porsche 919. No-stop with RH for an all-in-all easy win. Not the best car for this track as the de-tune makes it come in at 310hp,needed slipstream to get to 270kph:lol:
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Tried something different at the Porsche race. 1 million credit engine swapped 356.

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My first run here, it poured rain most of the race, this time it just sprinkled. Good thing too, cause this thing is wild. 200+ mph on this long stretch, but had to be very careful on the slow down to the final turns.
 
I started on WC last night. I came in 3rd in the Honda F1 race. I probably should have thrown on RS and maybe tweaked my setup just a little. I spun out hitting the gas too soon coming out of a turn so after that I started being more cautious and I think that caused me to be slower.
Next I did the Eiger with the Alpine car that was fun. I really like this track with the low powered cars. Won that race and actually got the CRB.
Next the Alphard to the Sprint track that was fun as well. I was being kinda lazy and didn't any pics except for here but that's only because I kind rammed a car off the road and I thought it looked funny
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Next I did the Porsche race. Surprisingly I have never won this race. So I used the 904 but I put on Inters whch turned out to be a great decision as it was a heavy downpour. I was finally able to take 1st at that race.
 

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