Welp here it is: Maserati Ghibli

[psntomaz]

If they are indeed based on Chrysler engines (the petrol-versions), it could simply be a marketing gimmick to give them some cred.
If they did alter them theirselves (and maybe they did), then it would possibly be perceived as just altered Chrysler-engines (which they essentially still are), add an extra layer of 'Ferrari-magic' and the Chrysler 'stain' slightly wears off perhaps in people's perception.

The blocks are bare pentastars with no drillings or cylinder bores.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

Meh. It needs an oval grille.

 

[Valkyrie427]

When a manufacturer re-uses an old name, they should at least make the car in the same class or segment.

You can't call that a Ghibli, when this was a Ghibli.

Example: Dodge Charger and Dodge Dart. They used to be the bad:censored:s of the road. Now they're kinda wimpy (well, the Charger isn't too bad, but the Dart is plain embarrassing)

 

[Tornado]

The Dart was always originally intended to be a low price compact car first and foremost (albeit with varying definitions of "compact"). That Chrysler briefly put the same engines that they put in everything else they sold doesn't change that the current Dart is more like the original Dart in intent than the late 60's Dart with a 440 was.

 

[psntomaz]

Example: Dodge Charger and Dodge Dart. They used to be the bad:censored:s of the road. Now they're kinda wimpy (well, the Charger isn't too bad, but the Dart is plain embarrassing)

Food for Thought,

Most of the Darts Volume Models were Sedan's, Slant 6 Coupes, and 318 V8's. after 68, a good amount were 340's, Few Factory 383's, and Rare Limited number of 440's. Hemi Darts were Drag Packs. Then the Mid 70's came, when Dodge got in trouble with "Christians" because of the "DEMON" name and Chrysler was forced to Call it "Dart Sport". No more 440's only 318's-383's

then This happend

as you see Most Darts were Compact Sedans and Slant 6 Coupes. Not really "HiPo"

 

[DeathSmiles]

The design is wonderful. The more and more I look at it, the more I appreciate it's curves, low front end, and high rear fenders. This is how you design an attractive saloon.

I wonder what it will costs, because I really like this. And I don't usually go for 4 doors (sans my A7, which I liked alot).

 

[RocZX]

 

[Stotty]

The rear's a little generic, but the front is lovely - modern Maserati's have a lot of rear view mirror presence. And the interiors are a thing of beauty if you get the right colour combination.

I'm guessing this is around the same size as a 5 series given the new Quatroporte has grown significantly (now similar to a S Class). In this sector, a high output diesel makes a huge amount of sense for Europe - most of the cars in the same size or price class you see on the roads are diesel powered.

 

[analog]

Is that the actual sound? If so, then wow.

In this sector, a high output diesel makes a huge amount of sense for Europe - most of the cars in the same size or price class you see on the roads are diesel powered.

Agree, it makes perfect sense if they really want a share of the 5-series/E-Class market and I don't object to
it necessarily (even though somehow a Porsche and even Lamborghini diesel feels more natural).
Although at the filling station it does make you look a bit like you're the kind of guy who takes a supermodel out for dinner to a kebab shop.

 

[Encyclopedia]

I completely agree but then again, they already did exactly the same thing before.

Although that one was at least original looking (and pretty cool in my opinion).

The new one I just a snooze fest to look at.

 

[RocZX]

Is that the actual sound? If so, then wow.

Yes, if you register for updates on www.ghibli.maserati.com you can hear the engine sound.

 

[Danny]

You see... one's a twin turbo 3.0 V6 petrol and the other... isn't

It had better be powered by raw enthusiasm.

 

[Stotty]

Agree, it makes perfect sense if they really want a share of the 5-series/E-Class market and I don't object to it necessarily (even though somehow a Porsche and even Lamborghini diesel feels more natural).
Although at the filling station it does make you look a bit like you're the kind of guy who takes a supermodel out for dinner to a kebab shop.

No matter how much money I had I would almost certainly go for a diesel in anything that isn't a proper sportscar. They are just so much more usable for normal day to day driving - loads more torque and much better economy... which means much better range and less time spent filling it up on a long journey. 6CYL diesels can sound quite decent too... not the same as a nice petrol, but not offensive like some 4CYLs.

Sports cars need a petrol engine for the noise and throttle response though.

Harry Metcalf (EVO Magazine) had the more modern Ghibli years ago... always liked them, but not in the same league as the original, which was a trully stunnign car.

 

[analog]

No matter how much money I had I would almost certainly go for a diesel in anything that isn't a proper sportscar. They are just so much more usable for normal day to day driving - loads more torque and much better economy... which means much better range and less time spent filling it up on a long journey. 6CYL diesels can sound quite decent too... not the same as a nice petrol, but not offensive like some 4CYLs.

Sports cars need a petrol engine for the noise and throttle response though.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-diesel at all, in fact in recent years I've almost exclusively driven diesel cars although not always by choice.
And like I said, it makes perfect sense businesswise and if it's indeed to be perceived as an alternative to a diesel 5-series but offering most of the Maserati experience instead for your daily commute (apart from the sound although I agree 6-cylinder diesels can sound pretty darn good these days) it could prove a tempting proposition.

It's just that the original sixties and most of the following Quattroportes were always regarded more as 4-door GT's and not as saloons although the bodywork is that of a saloon.
And the (subtle) aural delights being one of the key characteristics of any Maserati I still have to get used to the idea I guess.

 

[Stotty]

That's the thing about a GT cars... I've no idea why someone would need/want a big, powerful, uneconomical pertrol engine.

I've done several long European drives now (c.1,000 miles in a day), and I don't get why some people think a GT car needs to be any faster than a modern, top end 3l 6cyl diesel... I did a sustained [the posted legal maximum] from the Swis border to Calais in a lowely 2.2tdci Mondeo, 3-up with luggage, in perfect comfort, and I doubt you'd be able to cover that distance any quicker in car with double the BHP/tonne.

Wonder if this platform will lead to a smaller Granturismo at a more accessible price.

 

[Terronium-12]

Looks more like a revamped/face-lifted Quattroporte to me.

 

[Dan_]

I think it looks pretty good.

This however is what actually caught my attention:

Autocar: Maserati's petrol turbocharged 3.0-litre V6 engine will be offered in two states of tune. The range-topping car will boast about 410bhp and the price is expected to be in the low-£60k region. The lower-powered petrol car will have about 330bhp and sit halfway between the others in terms of pricing. A V8 petrol is expected to follow at a later date.

Probably not the moneymaker of the range, but a Ghibli with the wonderful 4.7 would be epic. I hope it comes to fruition.

 

[Tornado]

I doubt it would be that, as cool as it would be. Probably just the V8 out of the big Maser instead.

 

[terminator363]

When a manufacturer re-uses an old name, they should at least make the car in the same class or segment.

You can't call that a Ghibli, when this was a Ghibli.

Damn that looks nice! I couldn't care less about the new one though. Pretty boring if you ask me.

 

[Leicht]

ok lah~

 

[Famine]

It had better be powered by raw enthusiasm.

Here, have a link to what I wrote about it a couple of days ago. I don't think there's anything in there that isn't in this thread (also Maserati gave no prices), but it's all in the same place rather than sprinkled.

 

[analog]

That's the thing about a GT cars... I've no idea why someone would need/want a big, powerful, uneconomical pertrol engine.

I've done several long European drives now (c.1,000 miles in a day), and I don't get why some people think a GT car needs to be any faster than a modern, top end 3l 6cyl diesel...

Er...simply because they can? If money is no object and whether a car is economical or not is of no concern, then yes, having a big powerful GT with a glorious engine sound simply for the sake of it seems all the reason you'll need, ofcourse it won't be much faster in modern traffic than a top of the line diesel but that's irrelevant.
People buy Ferrari's and Lamborghini's for the same reason, a GT simply offers a more comfortable experience than a supercar or sportscar.

 

[yabiggoose]

Looks like a Kia :\

 

[kennylmao]

ok lah~

^lol

The shape of the grille looks a bit odd for a Maserati. Looks a little too small. The back also looks... weird.

 

[White & Nerdy]

Recent Maserati front ends have always looked a bit off, and this whole car is a bit snooze to look at, but for what it's worth I think it's better looking than the upcoming Quattroporte.

Hopefully the car's performance will be more exciting. Motor Trend (usually about my least favorite car magazine other than Consumer Reports, which has no business saying anything about cars) says it'll probably have the same engines as the Quattroporte, so it could actually be faster. Maybe this'll take over the role of "Ferrari sedan"?

 

[DeathSmiles]

Recent Maserati front ends have always looked a bit off, and this whole car is a bit snooze to look at...

Looks like a Kia :\

Sometimes I feel I'm in the Twilight Zone.

He are some Hi-Res images, btw;

 

[kikie]

Not bad but it looks so ............... ordinary.

 

[Monatsende]

Looks more like a revamped/face-lifted Quattroporte to me.

... a badly done face-lifted Quattroporte though...

 

[alonsof1fan91]

No matter how much money I had I would almost certainly go for a diesel in anything that isn't a proper sportscar. They are just so much more usable for normal day to day driving - loads more torque and much better economy...

Economy? You know that this car will loose 50% of its value in 2 years? How can people point Diesel economy as a big advantage for cars, which cost about 60-80k € and loose 50% of it in a few years.

In Germany big Diesel engines are popular, but 30-40% of all sold new E Class/5 Series here go to private people, most of them drive the smaller engines, not the big V6 Diesels. Most people who drive them get the car leased by the company they work for.

Big Diesels aren't selling outside of Germany and Austria, China and the US are much more important and those markets are dominated by Petrols.

 

[Stotty]

Economy? You know that this car will loose 50% of its value in 2 years? How can people point Diesel economy as a big advantage for cars, which cost about 60-80k € and loose 50% of it in a few years.

It's not the economy benefit in itself, it's the range benefit... if you're doing a lot of miles, a car with a 600 miles range is much better than a car with a 300-400 mile range.