What am I doing wrong? Driving style?

[Metfanant]

Ok, I'm relatively new to using a wheel in racing games, and I just noticed this since switching to a wheel, but when im driving, especially with racing tires on it seems like my front tires go "red" very easily when cornering.

Now I understand the physics of why they go red, but im wondering if its something im doing wrong with the wheel? My logic tells me im turning the wheel too much in the corners, but it doesn't really feel like it, but at the same time, like I said im new to using wheels....

Any help?

 

[DroogsDontRun]

go into the corner slower and and progressively go faster until you get used to the wheel, nothing is slower than going to fast into a corner, also if you use the driving line take it off and for brake points use the little gear indicator, when it starts blinking rapidly brake, just drive the nurburgring for like and hour or two straight with a couple cars with different drivetrains.

 

[thefast1]

I would wait for now until you are fully warmed up to your wheel, its a waste of time trying new techniques until you are fully relaxed when using the wheel.
And then make sure you are warmed up to the track there is nothing harder than trying to be fast on a track you do not know.

Then try you tube and sim racing websites for driving techniques explained things such as left foot braking and braking into a corner etc etc, I remember a sim racing web site had loads of driving techniques explained and tips too if I manage to find it I will send you a link.

 

[Hig-GT]

As basically said above, just try and make sure that you are doing the right speed for the corner, just get all of your braking done in a straight line for now, then when you turn in try to be slow & smooth, don't yank the wheel across just smoothly turn the car in, just as you would in real life.

Don't worry about left foot braking (although that's natural with a two pedal base) or braking into the corner or anything like that.

Then balance the throttle through the corner and then only go to full throttle when you know you wont have to lift off again at all during anymore points in that corner.

So get your braking done first, be slow & smooth when you turn the wheel, then balance the throttle until you know you can go full throttle without having to lift off again.

 

[Metfanant]

Im trying to pay closer attention to what im doing and I've noticed that I can bear the tires "clawing" for traction, but the car is still turning in and im not experiencing any terrible understeer either...

It happens a lot on long sweeping curves...the "twirl" on Cape Ring for instance, or the long right hander on Tokyo...the car will stay planted along the inside line, and I can keep feeding it more gas and it stays there...I guess I just need to be more concious that the tires can be pushed too hard...idk...

 

[Hig-GT]

the tyres will have a maximum speed that they will go around the corner comfortably, this is because the tyre has a certain opertaing temperature range, by any chance is this an AWD car you are having this problem with? I've noticed they love to overheat tyres unless you shift around the brake balance and the torque

 

[Metfanant]

the tyres will have a maximum speed that they will go around the corner comfortably, this is because the tyre has a certain opertaing temperature range, by any chance is this an AWD car you are having this problem with? I've noticed they love to overheat tyres unless you shift around the brake balance and the torque

I have seen the problem with AWD cars but the car it bothers me the most ( because I use it the most) is my Viper ACR...though I think im figuring it out the more im paying closer attention...

1. I dialed a little more oversteer into my suspension tune and its better
2. I've noticed that its happening a lot coming down from really high speed braking. Just the braking force alone is causing the tires to go white. So I may dial back the brakes/ play with the balance a little..

Im really starting to think im taking the corners JUST a little to hot...not enough to lose the tail, or understeer like a plow...but just enough that the front wheels are SCREAMING and just at the edge of grip. then mixing in any late braking, or excessive turning of the wheel causes them to end up beyond their limits...

 

[thefast1]

As basically said above, just try and make sure that you are doing the right speed for the corner, just get all of your braking done in a straight line for now, then when you turn in try to be slow & smooth, don't yank the wheel across just smoothly turn the car in, just as you would in real life.

Don't worry about left foot braking (although that's natural with a two pedal base) or braking into the corner or anything like that.

Then balance the throttle through the corner and then only go to full throttle when you know you wont have to lift off again at all during anymore points in that corner.

So get your braking done first, be slow & smooth when you turn the wheel, then balance the throttle until you know you can go full throttle without having to lift off again.

Personally I think left foot braking is one of the best things to start to learn it helps keep the car stable under heavy straight line braking, It also keeps the car more stable in a corner if you have to add a little of the brakes.
And more importantly it really helps with stopping the brakes locking up when doing a fast lap especially if like me you don't use any ABS.

And being smooth only works in certain situations, what happens when he is racing on-line or in a single player race and he does not have right driving line to go round the corner in a smooth manner, Or what happens if does not get a corner correct and has to hit the brakes ?, all that smooth driving wont get you far then.
That is why I think left foot braking and such like are more than worthy of leaning straight away and there easy to learn too.

 

[Hig-GT]

I think it depends, there's no real right or wrong way, I'm not saying not to use the techniques that are mentioned, it just seems that he is lacking in more simple driving techniques which is why I suggested maybe putting those slightly more advanced techniques on hold for a while, but if he wants to learn them side by side then that is up to him.

For the record though, I am not discounting the techniques.