What are you paying for fuel? **NOT AN AMERICA HAS CHEAP FUEL THREAD**

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Our average car does 35mpg (about 30mpg US) combined.
 
live4speed
Most of us don't :lol:, and they're introducing congstion charges in more city centers (Manchester included) so we get to pay for traveling on road we've already paid to drive on with our road tax, which for my 306 is £180 per year which is $385.55, I don't know how the tax compares, but thats for my small car, a car with higher emissions is more.
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I remember Famine talking about the high taxes in the UK and it's pretty rediculious for you guys. Americans get taxed but not nearly that heavy. Michigan's gas tax is one of the higher ones because our wonderful state govenment says they are going to fix the road...which are probably the worse roads in the entire country and up there with the worse roads in the world.

But the UK has some uber high taxes, which would make me not ever want to live there. But here is a question, since you guys pay more for just about everything, is your average wages higher then the rest of the world? I mean does the UK compensate for inflation?
 
Nope.

(Rank, Country, GNI per capita 2003, GNI per capita 2004)
1 - Luxembourg: $45,750, $56,230
2 - Norway: 43,400, 52,030
3 - Switzerland: 40,680, 48,230
4 - United States: 37,870, 41,400
5 - Denmark: 33,580, 40,650
6 - Iceland: 30,910, 38,620
7 - Japan: 34,190, 37,180
8 - Sweden: 28,910, 35,770
9 - Ireland: 27,020, 34,280
10 - United Kingdom: 28,320, 33,940
 
Wow, I'm sorry to say it but the UK pretty much bends you guys over and gives it to you pretty good. Talk about screwing your own citizens.
 
This is about fuel prizes, right? Converted from Swedish kr/l to $/USgallon 5.45 US$
Converted to £/UKgallon £3.71 in todays values. Fueltaxes, value-addtaxes (25% on original value - on all taxed items in Sweden) and environmental taxes...
 
It wouldn't be so bad if our roads were well maintained or our public services were any good, but we just get taxed to hell and back.
 
Yeah, same here. And our roads must be the worst in Europe, due to salt, bad maintainance and snowtyres. And all our gasstations have turned from carmaintainanceshops to fastfoodrestaurants, so you can hardly even buy oil.
 
Well I would say if any of you guys ever make it to the US and manage to make it to Michigan you will see what I'm talking about when I say we have some crappy roads. In the spring, just about everyone has some sort of pot hole damage done to their cars. Last March a pot hole claimed my passenger side tire.
 
BlazinXtreme
Well I would say if any of you guys ever make it to the US and manage to make it to Michigan you will see what I'm talking about when I say we have some crappy roads. In the spring, just about everyone has some sort of pot hole damage done to their cars. Last March a pot hole claimed my passenger side tire.
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Well, the town/city roads is one of the few thing I remember from my visit to the States some 18 years ago. I especially remember New York. I say hot dog! THAT was crap surfaces! The highways on the other hand was great, as long as you didn´t ride´em by day...talk about going nowhere really slowly!
 
Oh Michigan freeways are aweful since we build them out of concrete and well they crack and water gets under them. And since it's Michigan the water can freeze and thaw within a hour or two. Michigan weather changes in a blink of an eye...today it was snowing in the morning and about 22 degrees and by tomarrow it's going to be almost 50 and raining...go figure. But our weather is hell on our crappy roads...which is why our gas tax is high.
 
BlazinXtreme
Well I would say if any of you guys ever make it to the US and manage to make it to Michigan you will see what I'm talking about when I say we have some crappy roads. In the spring, just about everyone has some sort of pot hole damage done to their cars. Last March a pot hole claimed my passenger side tire.
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I know what you mean... I just put a golf ball sized dent in my front passenger side wheel, cracked both sides of it... Gave me an excuse to buy new wheels and tires, I cant complain... But $530 was not what I needed to spend right now...

Fuel Prices:
In Grand Rapids, its been floating around $2.30-$2.40 for the past month. Last time I bought gas for my '96 Jetta, I put in 87-octane at $2.29 a gallon for about $29.50 for a full tank (12.3 gallons, not using the 2.0 gallon reserve tank).

Compare that to about two months ago where I could spend about the same ammount of money on 91-octane Shell V-Power premium fuel...

My first gas tank I ever filled on my '93 VW Fox cost me $17 on a 12 gallon tank... That works out to about $1.42 a gallon in the summer of 2003, which even then was outrageously high at the time... Before that, prices had stuck around $1.10-$1.20 all year... The last time prices have been below $1.00 a gallon was in the winter of 2001, when 87-octane could be bought for $.97 a gallon... How times have changed...
 
Gas is going back up again thanks to the oil companies hoarding oil for their own use...................👎

In town: $2.25/gal
Closest station: $2.21/gal (will be $2.25 tommorrow)
Diesel: somehow still $2.39/gal

To the crap roads comments above, SC has some of the worst roads in the US, not because of potholes and crap road construction, but because of narrow, twisty country roads and lots of blind hills and corners. Not to mention it's damn near impossible to see anything at night due to a complete lack of lighting; all there is are reflectors which half of them are broken and don't reflect, and the center and road edge lines which are in desperate need of repainting.
 
I love narrow twisty roads, I get to drive over some many times a year when I go and see the other half of the family on the other side of the pennines.
 
live4speed
I love narrow twisty roads, I get to drive over some many times a year when I go and see the other half of the family on the other side of the pennines.
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But the narrow, twisty roads in SC aren't fun, they're dangerous. With huge ditches sitting on both sides of the road, one slip and it's all over.
 
We have farm walls, ditches, steep slopes, all sorts at the sides of the roads too, I just don't push the car, I try to keep my speeds sensible when I'm driving, I still enjoy thoes sorts of roads.
 
Me too.

Hell, if we're getting BOHICAd for petrol, we may as well enjoy it... :D
 
If you get to the good, narrow, twisty roads out on the Michigan countryside, they are great for high-speed driving... Not necessiarily the Bahn-Burning speeds given off by the likes of an SLR McLaren or Ferrari F430 as road contruction severely limits high-speed, but the fun 60-90MPH runs through the countryside...

Its best in the summer around 2AM when you have a big full moon and its still in the 60s and 70s outside... You can go running around with all the windows down and the moonroof open and see almost as if it were daytime...
 
Its best in the summer around 2AM when you have a big full moon and its still in the 60s and 70s outside... You can go running around with all the windows down and the moonroof open and see almost as if it were daytime...
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God I love those days.
 
BlazinXtreme
YSSMAN
Its best in the summer around 2AM when you have a big full moon and its still in the 60s and 70s outside... You can go running around with all the windows down and the moonroof open and see almost as if it were daytime...
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God I love those days.
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Ditto. :)
 
I think the only time I have ever had a similar expirience to the farm-runs was the time I was driving back from Key West to Miami Beach in a Sebring (eww, I know) Convertable... It was 10PM, everything was down, and blasting back to the city between 75-100MPH was fun while it lasted, and will probably be one of my favorite driving expiriences Ive had in a while...
 
BlazinXtreme
Oh Michigan freeways are aweful since we build them out of concrete and well they crack and water gets under them. And since it's Michigan the water can freeze and thaw within a hour or two. Michigan weather changes in a blink of an eye...today it was snowing in the morning and about 22 degrees and by tomarrow it's going to be almost 50 and raining...go figure. But our weather is hell on our crappy roads...which is why our gas tax is high.
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its like that in northern il too on the tolls they dont plow just salt
let me tell you its quite an experience driving a camaro through axle deep slush mixture
 
It came down to just over $1.99, but it was back to around $2.07 couple of days ago. :rolleyes:
 
It's up to 2.89 around me right now and is said by Friday it will be 2.99 and by Monday we are looking at 3.09. This is getting a bit absurd...oil companies post record highs and everyone else in the world is getting screwed.
 
According to Grandrapidsgasprices.com:

9:20 PM April 18: Regular fuel was $2.63 in Cedar Springs, MI

As of now, the highest reported price is $2.73 in Grand Rapids, MI

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I've herd the same $3.00 rumor for the weekend, and I'm not too happy about it. The other rumor is that $4.00 isn't out of the question this summer, and thats too bad.

Also, I'd like to point out that we in America are just begining to pay more for a gallon of gasoline than what we pay for a gallon of Milk... What does that tell ya?
 
Prices are reaching $1.40 per litre here now. :(
 
YSSMAN
According to Grandrapidsgasprices.com:

9:20 PM April 18: Regular fuel was $2.63 in Cedar Springs, MI

As of now, the highest reported price is $2.73 in Grand Rapids, MI

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I've herd the same $3.00 rumor for the weekend, and I'm not too happy about it. The other rumor is that $4.00 isn't out of the question this summer, and thats too bad.

Also, I'd like to point out that we in America are just begining to pay more for a gallon of gasoline than what we pay for a gallon of Milk... What does that tell ya?
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Wow you guys get a slight break over on the other side of the state. But if gas goes to four dollars a gallon I'm seriously going to first punch someone from a middle eastern country that provides the oil, then I'm going to punch an oil executive, then I'm going to punch our wonderful governer for not trying to figure out a way to fix Michigan.

The world is getting screwed on gas, I wish E85 was more avaliable...I wouldn't mind paying 2.59 for gas right now.
 
I'd be willing to pay $3 or even $4 per gallon if that meant that our foreign friends would only have to pay that same amount.
 
Wolfe2x7
I'd be willing to pay $3 or even $4 per gallon if that meant that our foreign friends would only have to pay that same amount.
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I wouldn't and the main reason Europe pays more then us is due to taxes...Famine explained it somewhere. Also look at countries in the middle east, they are paying an equvilent 65 cents per gallon. I don't even remember .65 per gallon gas...EVER! The lowest I can remember was .80 back in the early 90's.

Something really needs to be done and someone really needs to investigate how much OPEC likes to screw over the world.
 
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