What do u think of war on iraq..?

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i just watched the bush speech 30 minutes ago..and from what i think..why fo to war when u can settle it in a peacful manner!!...but bush is overlooking himslef..and that going into war can solve prbelms..? no wonder so much country hates america becausd they get things doen the bad way..and thats why..they got atccked on sept 11 just because there *****iness..( sry for saying that but its true) no i want ur guys opion..
 
Yeah
it seems todays world is being run by spin doctors (with the next election in mind), and the fact that there's also money to be made through oil and weapons sales kind of makes it even more appealing for some:( :( :(
should we really be surprised though?
 
Ahhh! I just love you guys.

I think the world will be much better off when there is a majority in the world who recognize the history of the world.

17 whats?

Oh thats right, U.N. resolutions since the gulf war.

That is diplomacy.

Fact is...

France IS the largest seller of conventional weapons to Iraq.
France has been close to Iraq since they sold Iraq their only nuclear reactor during the 70's.

Think about facts like that when you want to account for the world opinion.

Whats popular is never the right thing... its always the cool thing.

Where were you all when clinton was bombing Iraq for the last 12 years.

Where were your protest towards the actions of saddam on march 16th 1988? (edit: 15 years ago as of march 16th)

This is a protest of the Bush administration, not the removal of a stalinistic dictator.

I woulnt be back for responses because I believe 90% of the people on the gtp boards are uneducated, misinformed, and incapable of responding to a topic as complex as the importance of war and world politics.

But if you think your smart... first tell me what that event I was talking about was?

Any internet search will yeild the correct results...

So go for it, and then go ahead and waste your typing on a response to me...
 
Please hear me when I say I do not support war.

But to say that there are other options to solve this I think is naive.

IF (and it is a big IF) Iraq has weapons of mass destruction and IF the world believes they should not have them and should get rid of them then what other options are realistic ? I don't think any of them are realistic.

Once again I am not supporting war but I struggle to think how to solve the issue. I think Bush is in an awkward position.

Also there is a risk that the Taliban / Al Qaeda will move somewhere else to base their operations. Although Iraq is at the other end of the Islam spectrum ie Taliban are strict, Iraq is not they both hate America.

Also remember I am Australian so I do realise that I am more of an outsider looking in than being involved in this thing.

If only weapons were banned worldwide and we could trust there were no looneys out there who would sneak some and use them.
 
Ummmmmm we have been waiting peacefully..We can not let sadaam create a weapon of mass destruction, if he did he will not hesitate to unleash it on an ally nation the first chance it is ready. sadaam has already committed genocide and other atrocities. And if your nation is hit with that weapon of mass destruction, well I guess no more gran turismo for you.

President George W. Bush is doing an EXCELLENT job, espically compared to fatboy clinton's administration.

Next on the agenda north korea.
 
I have to wonder what would happen if Clinton were still in office and he wanted to bomb Iraq. Oh, wait, nevermind. That DID happen.

The people who think this is about oil or imperialism are uninformed at best. American oil companies want stability more than anything--and a war is about the least stable thing you could do.

The fact is Saddam Hussein poses a direct threat to the United States and other nations. The US needs no warrant or sanction upon its being or its defense. Any time spent in the United Nations is wasted.

Much, if not most, of the opposition to war has nothing to do with peace. It is merely hatred for Bush and hatred for America.

Everybody wants to live in peace. Peace is something that must be maintained, not something that just happens. Sometimes you have to fight for peace, and one of those times is now.
 
I mean if your fixing to fight why be nice about it and say you have 48 house? Say we are coming over i hope your not there when we get there. See if they stick around after that. ;)
 
haha yea...I do not support war at all, and I think Bush made the wrong decision...I mean history is just repeating itself over again...sighs...and if they do attack Iraq..the oil prices are gonna go through the roof for sure...well in Canada atleast...I just hope this doesn't happen...
 
Originally posted by gumpy
Also remember I am Australian so I do realise that I am more of an outsider looking in than being involved in this thing.
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I hear that alot of Australian Iraqis are afraid to actually speak thier mind on the matter because saddam has spies (or so they believe) here waiting for ppl who say they are against him (so they can do "something" to them). In fact most of them are against saddam and want to see him overthrow.
 
Originally posted by ving
I hear that alot of Australian Iraqis are afraid to actually speak thier mind on the matter because saddam has spies (or so they believe) here waiting for ppl who say they are against him (so they can do "something" to them). In fact most of them are against saddam and want to see him overthrow.
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uh, umm, uh I am not against him, hhhonestly I'm not. Please believe me.
 
I just thought I should clarify my last post. I am an Aussie with a mainly English background ie I am not an Aussie/Iraqi.
 
Originally posted by Total_turbo
i just watched the bush speech 30 minutes ago..and from what i think..why fo to war when u can settle it in a peacful manner!!...but bush is overlooking himslef..and that going into war can solve prbelms..? no wonder so much country hates america becausd they get things doen the bad way..and thats why..they got atccked on sept 11 just because there *****iness..( sry for saying that but its true) no i want ur guys opion..
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We can't settle it peacfully. We have been trying to do that for 12 years. Going to war isn't going to solve any problems. Killing Sadaam is though. If it takes war to get rid of him then I am for it.
Who the hell cares how many countries hate us?
We got attacked on 9/11 because there are extremist out there who think their way is the only right way and are willing to kill anyone who is a threat to their way. It's time we struck back and put them in there place or put them infront of their so called "god".
I am really tired of hearing about anti American crap and anti war on Iraq crap. The latest polls show 2/3rds of America supports the war on Iraq. I really don't want to hear from the other 1/3rd for a while. They are all over the TV and radio and they are only loosing support rather than gaining it. War is going to happen. I hope it doesn't last long and there are very few casualties.
 
War is bad. But bad is sometimes necessary. War displeases me. But what pleases me is not what is right, it is only what pleases me. Anyone who thinks Bush isn't seriously agonizing right now, that he doesn't comprehend the magnatude of what is about to occurr, is unable to comprehend it himself.

It is done.

At least the American military tries to save civilians rather than intentionally target them and use them as shields.

The outcome of this war will be beneficial in the long run. Some people are two stupid to see that.

There's more to the world than next week. Or even next month.

You need to take a broad perspective. The perspective I have when I want to save a kitten is not the one that supports a war. You have to think historically. There is more to world history and stability than what is most pleasant.

I have to agree with GoKents comments about the intellectual capacity of others. Although I wouldn't limit it to this forum. It's a rampant sickness in Western Civilization. It betrays a forlorn weariness that scares me more than Saddam Hussein.
 
What bothers me is by this action the UN debating society has become somewhat emasculated. That and the attitude of France and other countrys that are willing to let hussein get away with the same things he's been doing for 12 years. It sickens me that the US must do what has to be done without the total support of the UN . However things turn out it will always be tainted by the disunity.
 
What bothers me is the attitude of France, and the fact that the UN is now somewhat emasculated. I tried to delete this but failed miserably.............
 
Two of the primary concerns, the generic ones aside, is the possibility of a Kurdish revolt in southern Turkey, and how a possible government that would give the supposedly more "fanatical" (I'm not sure of the word) Shi'ites more power would behave. Would the Sunnis face terrible retribution? Would, as some have speculated, al-Qaida be given undeniable assistance?
 
I have to agree with Mile, and DGB454.
It's not like we (the USA) are itching for a war. We have been searching for a peaceful resolution to this little "circle-jerk" for more than a decade.
How many of you remember the last time we threatened war with Iraq?
All the news reports out of Iraq at that point had Saddam surrounded by little children. Ostensibly to show what a "great guy" he was as even the children wanted to hang with him.
The veiled threat also existed that if we bombed him we would also kill a great number of children.
He sought and purchased a reactor capable of producing WEAPONS GRADE nuclear product from our "good friends" the French.
These are not the actions of an honorable man seeking peace.
These are the actions of a man trying to buy some time to build the kinds of weapons that will allow him to be a lethal threat to the rest of the world.
As for war, No I am not thrilled about it. My eldest son got his Selective Service registration in the mail yesterday.
I hate the idea of him going to fight. I've been there. I am the youngest of my Father's sons and I VOLUNTEERED to be in Harm's way. I have been in Naval Combat. I have aided and abetted US Navy Seals in their mission. War sucks. However, it is sometimes necessary for the greater good to wage war. That's what we are doing at this time.
You don't always have to stand for something, but you do have to stand up sometimes to keep from being trampled.
 
Every male in the US at age 18 receives their selective service registration... It doesn't mean you're going to fight. :)
 
That is true,
However, His dad and uncle were sailors, His grandad was a soldier. And we live in a military town.
I hope he's smart enough NOT to follow in the tracks we made.
The cause is just, but I don't want to "sacrifice" my firstborn for it.
Because he's a smart kid, and he knows his mind I won't stop him from enlisting, if he chooses that path. But I will suggest he take another path.
The world is a much different place than when I was in the military. It's a bit "meaner" now.:(
 

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