What do you guys think about that new Bugatti Veyron

[X5.]

well i just wanted to hear other ppls views bout the veyron and discuss all aspects about it.

 

[X5.]

The main aim of the Veyron, i heard, was to beat the Mclarens top speed for a road car. in doing this however other parts of the vehicle were left unattended to. At the moment the shocks are under the seat, this is only done in emergency situations. The handling was described as comparable to the VW Rabbit.

In a recent test on Laguna seca in California the bugatti didnt exactly perform to standard. It was doin two laps. On the second lap the driver pushed the Veyron a bit 2 much and the car spun highlighting that the Veyron isnt exactly up to scratch. Demand for this ride is also quite low it is under 40 at the moment. With these disadvantages and more, will it ever make the road?

it costs 700 000pounds at the moment.

 

[X5.]

http://www.car-data.com/xpage.preview/pre.template.asp?mfg=bugatti&model=veyron

 

[LoudMusic]

Originally posted by BMW X5 SPORTS
cray=crazy, sorry guys

There is an edit button ...

Do you have any pictures? Or links to information? I was unaware that there was a "new" one. There have been concepts for quite some time, but I wouldn't consider it "new".

 

[emad]

Here's the bit I know about the car:
the concept has been out for ages but it's finally hit the market I think. The problem is that Bugatti had to make a lot of sacrifices to make it street legal. The tires for example were in the end a limiting factor. In order to reach Mclaren speeds, they needed slicks but that would have killed the whole stock thing they were going for. So they had weird tires that were half slick half tread or something along those lines made for it. Durability was pretty much gone through that but they reached the speed. I'm not at all sure about it's handling. From it's ride stance, I don't think it can take corners too well. It just seems a bit wide...not to mention the 1000+hp going to all 4 wheels. I have serious doubts if that's at all a good thing. I can't begin to imagine the immense understeer that it would induce. It also is surprised me that it's going so slowly with that much horsepower. The Koenigsigg CC 8S has 655bhp and offers 240mph compared to the bugatti's 252.3 mph. Not to mention that the lower power on the CC would mean significantly better track handling in comparison to the Bugatti...

 

[240Z freak]

This car has now failed to interest me in the slightest, since it now has a 218 mph top speed, due to "aerodynamic instability" or something like that, which doesn't make it the fastest production supercar. Thus, since that was the only interesting quality in it to me, and it looks like something my dog coughed up, there is no way I would even consider this car if I had the neccesary funds.

 

[zoxxy]

Veyron is overrated.
Koenigsegg is faster.
Love Koenigsegg

 

[Scaff]

Originally posted by emad
Here's the bit I know about the car:
the concept has been out for ages but it's finally hit the market I think.

The Veyron is not yet a launched production car and is still in development.

VW (Bugatti owners) will not release a firm launch date and all those they have qouted in the past have been missed.

Personaly do not like the car; to me its just chasing big performance numbers for no other reason than bragging rights. I will also be amazed if it does get launched.

The shot below was a publicity shot released beforee the last launch that never happened

 

[Dave A]

The Veyron will be limited to 218Mph for street use, contrary to what certain publications have said it's always been the plan for that. If you wanted to take one to the track and go for a top speed run, you would need to ring Bugatti and they would send engineers who would de-restrict the enginen and replace the tyres with new ones and give the car a check over and the re-restrict the engine afterwards.

The car has had 2 setbacks, one is aerodynamics and the other is tyres, the tyres have been sorted but the aerodynamics still have a question mark above them. The spin a Laguna Seca was a driver error and not down to some problem with the cars handling. It won't handle like an Enzo though, but it's not meant to, the Veyron is NOT a supercar in the traditional sence, a supercar is a no compromise race car for the road or something along thoes lines, the Veyron makes plenty of compromises with it's luxury interior, state of the art sound system ect, it's more of a Super Grand Tourer.

Looks wise I like it quite a lot bt each to his own, and as for the Koenigseg being faster, how do you know, the Veyron hasn't hit it's top speed yet, but if it can get close to it, the Koenigsegg is slower by a big margin. I do feel though that the Veyron is starting to suffer due to all the hype VW created over it early on in it's life, it's not that it can't deliver it's original promise it;s just taking far too long.

 

[milefile]

 

[Famine]

Originally posted by BMW X5 SPORTS
i heard all the bugatti ppl did was focus on beating the mclarens top speed of 240.1mph and 4got bout the rest of the car. rite now they have the shocks under the seat that is only done in emergency situations, and the bugatti or vw ppl r unhappy with that. i heard the handling is just as good as the vw rabbit.

In a recent test on Laguna seca in Califor.. the bugatti effed up and went into cray a** spins, the driver finished the rest of the track at moderate speeds. So will this ride ever come out perfect. i heard that demand was also low( under 40) well @ 700000 smackers y not!!

I'm sorry, I only speak English.

 

[miata13B]

I actually dislike the looks of the Bugatti for once. I loved the EB 110, but this one looks like it got beat upside the head with the ugly Wrench. . . I would also think with 1000hp + it should be able to get a faster speed then 252. whatever or 218mph.

 

[Grammar Man!]

i heard all the bugatti ppl did was focus on beating the mclarens top speed of 240.1mph and 4got bout the rest of the car. rite now they have the shocks under the seat that is only done in emergency situations, and the bugatti or vw ppl r unhappy with that. i heard the handling is just as good as the vw rabbit.

In a recent test on Laguna seca in Califor.. the bugatti effed up and went into cray a** spins, the driver finished the rest of the track at moderate speeds. So will this ride ever come out perfect. i heard that demand was also low( under 40) well @ 700000 smackers y not!!

I heard all the Bugatti people did was focus on beating McLaren's top speed of 240.1 mph., and forgot about the rest of the car. Right now they have the shocks under the seat, which is only done in emergency situations, and the Bugatti or VW people are unhappy with that. I heard the handling is just as good as the VW Rabbit.

In a recent test on Laguna Seca in California, the Bugatti effed up and went into cray ass spins. The driver finished the rest of the track at moderate speeds.

So will this ride ever come out perfect? I heard that demand was also low (under 40). Well, at $70,0000.00 smackers, why not!!

Much better... although in this instance grammar can only help so much.

 

[Mr Dictionary]

Originally posted by BMW X5 SPORTS
i heard all the bugatti ppl did was focus on beating the mclarens top speed of 240.1mph and 4got bout the rest of the car. rite now they have the shocks under the seat that is only done in emergency situations, and the bugatti or vw ppl r unhappy with that. i heard the handling is just as good as the vw rabbit.

In a recent test on Laguna seca in Califor.. the bugatti effed up and went into cray a** spins, the driver finished the rest of the track at moderate speeds. So will this ride ever come out perfect. i heard that demand was also low( under 40) well @ 700000 smackers y not!!

PPLS = Pre Paid Legal Services, Inc. did you mean people

No entry found for 4got.= did you mean forgot

rite = : an established ceremony prescribed by a religion;

No entry found for Califor. = did you mean California?

No entry found for effed = Did you mean efed?

Y = A quantum number equal to twice the average electric charge of a particle multiplet or, equivalently, to the sum of the strangeness and the baryon number.

 

[Capt Illiterate]

Thank you Grammar Man and Mr Dictionary. The Captain's work is now so much easier, although not helped by abysmally worded posts like the three posts that started this topic.

 

[Mr Dictionary]

abysmally = Resembling an abyss in depth; unfathomable.
Very profound; limitless: abysmal misery.
Very bad: an abysmal performance.

Some people might need a definition for this one.

 

[retsmah]

Sniff petrol said that the release of the Veyron has been pushed back until the end of time.

I'd bet the thing ends up weighing over 3500lbs, and is undriveable without a lot of traction and stability controls.

1000bhp in a big AWD car... I'd be interested to see what kind of gas mileage that gets

 

[eliseracer]

Originally posted by retsmah
Sniff petrol said that the release of the Veyron has been pushed back until the end of time.

That site is soooooo funny... Oh man I can spend all day on it. In fact, I think I will.

 

[X5.]

Sorry bout my post. i can see many ppl(people) didnt quite understand my abbreviations, but Mr Dictionary put it rite only that effed is ****ed. and its around 700 000 pounds not 70.0000

 

[X5.]

On most sites, the Bugatti is quoted as having 220MPH. How can this beat the Mclaren?

 

[eliseracer]

Originally posted by BMW X5 SPORTS
On most sites, the Bugatti is quoted as having 220MPH. How can this beat the Mclaren?

There are a couple reasons. There are some tracks where cars CAN reach a speed of 200+, so when they do, the manufacturers claim those as some top speeds. The official ones have to be done in both directions, to eliminate "cheating" by the aid of wind, incline or road etc. So if I hit 245 on a track in my stock *fastcar* and claim it as the top speed, I have to turn around and try it again, which won't happen, it would cost me a lot of money. That is probably how a Koenigsegg owner got his CC up to a claimed 252.

That's how it works for 0-60 times at least...

BUT! The main reason for which it cannot beat the Macca is, by what you said, "On most sites". There's your answer. The people who didn't drive the car can't tell you how the car drives.

 

[Dave A]

The cars not even out yet and people are trying to sa it won't have any grip, it won't corner well, it'll drive like this and that. Bull****, wait and see, yes it's heavy for a superar but it's meant to be, it's a luxury car. I can see this car not going ahead if enough more problems arise, but I can't see VW-Audi releasing a below par version whcih in the long run would be far more damaging to them.

 

[Mr Dictionary]

Originally posted by BMW X5 SPORTS
Sorry bout my post. i can see many ppl(people) didnt quite understand my abbreviations, but Mr Dictionary put it rite only that effed is ****ed. and its around 700 000 pounds not 70.0000

You are still having trouble I see. When posting threads, why not try my site which I will link you to right here

 

[Carl.]

This car looks georgeous to me, but I'm clueless when it comes to its purpose. A car as potent (read: engine-wise) as this one should be driven with a race suit and an helmet most of the time... this has nothing to do with fancy interior design or premium sound system. And as far as the comparison between this car and the McLaren F1 goes, it's not the F1's top speed that impresses me, but its ability on the track and its racing history (which the EB 110 tried without success).

This car looks more like a statement from his owner, much like buying a 100 000$ watch... to some it makes sense.

 

[Dave A]

Originally posted by jpmontoya
This car looks more like a statement from his owner, much like buying a 100 000$ watch... to some it makes sense.

I'd have to agree with that, I fully understand why some filthy rich guy would want one, but then as you said, what purpose does the car have, it's not a supercar, it's not luxury car like a roll's, it's on it's own rivalling it'self as the worlds only super grand tourer (at least the only one I can think of).

 

[Carl.]

Originally posted by live4speed
it's on it's own rivalling it'self as the worlds only super grand tourer (at least the only one I can think of).

mmh... a Koenig (not Segg) Tuned Vanquish? a Bentley Hunaudiere or a Cadillac Sixteen? These creations reminds me a bit of the 20s exuberance.

 

[Dave A]

None of thoes are production cars or were destined to become production cars. The Hunaudiere was closeset but still never got out of the concept and into the testing stages.

 

[Carl.]

Yes they are concepts (except the imaginary Vanquish), just mentioning the recent trend looks a bit like the 20s.

 

[High-Test]

Overrated.

 

[retsmah]

Originally posted by live4speed
It's on it's own rivalling it'self as the worlds only super grand tourer (at least the only one I can think of).

Mercedes makes several cars in that class, extremely powerful and heavy. There's the SLR, then probably at least two or three more that I can't remember the names of.