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The VW GLi.
Not the GTi, the GLi.
I would post pics and specs, but I'm on my iPod Touch right now.

My dad is going to get this car within the next few months, and it will most likely be mine when I get my license in a few years. (I'm 14 now)
Do you think it would be a good car to tinker with/tune it up?
I have a couple "rich" friends whose parents have already promised them Mustangs, but I want to show them that German engineering can kick any American geek's ass any day. :) (And that's coming from an American. :))
 
Man. When I turned 16 I got handed a 1969 Datsun 1000 Coupe. I had to work on it constantly, which of course was the plan. I maintained all the brakes, clutch cable, tuned it (it had this thing called a distributor, kids) we even replaced the head gasket.

You kids these days get everything handed to you on plate! Also get off my lawn!

</end old man grumbling>
 
astrosdude91
Depending on which Mustang they get, I wouldn't brag too much.

Ahhh, they're all complete driving noobs that can't tell the clutch from the brake.
And, with a good deal of tuning knowledge, I think I could beat em.
 
robulus
Man. When I turned 16 I got handed a 1969 Datsun 1000 Coupe. I had to work on it constantly, which of course was the plan. I maintained all the brakes, clutch cable, tuned it (it had this thing called a distributor, kids) we even replaced the head gasket.

You kids these days get everything handed to you on plate! Also get off my lawn!

</end old man grumbling>

lol!
So I assume that means it's a good car? :)
 
The VW GLi.
Not the GTi, the GLi.
I would post pics and specs, but I'm on my iPod Touch right now.

My dad is going to get this car within the next few months, and it will most likely be mine when I get my license in a few years. (I'm 14 now)
Do you think it would be a good car to tinker with/tune it up?
I have a couple "rich" friends whose parents have already promised them Mustangs, but I want to show them that German engineering can kick any American geek's ass any day. :) (And that's coming from an American. :))

It'll be a good, reliable car. I wouldn't tune it or customize it because it would be pointless.
 
D_B_Coop
It'll be a good, reliable car. I wouldn't tune it or customize it because it would be pointless.

Do you think it would with a Navy Blue paint job and orange racing stripes (Racing stripes make you go faster, NOT flames, contrary to popular belief) and a big bumper sticker that says "You Are Gator Bait" on the back.
Vanity plate= IMAG8R
Fight flags on all four windows. :)
My ride of choice. :D

OK, maybe that's too far.
I'll wait for after college to do that. :)
 
Do you think it would with a Navy Blue paint job and orange racing stripes (Racing stripes make you go faster, NOT flames, contrary to popular belief) and a big bumper sticker that says "You Are Gator Bait" on the back.
Vanity plate= IMAG8R
Fight flags on all four windows. :)
My ride of choice. :D

OK, maybe that's too far.
I'll wait for after college to do that. :)

I just meant customize it to go faster, not how it looks. It'll be a great car, just leave it alone and keep it as it is.
 
D_B_Coop
I just meant customize it to go faster, not how it looks. It'll be a great car, just leave it alone and keep it as it is.

Nothing at all?
I don't think VW would like that anyways.
Have you guys seen those commercials for VW "Unpimp Your Ride?"
Definitely my favorite commercials of all time.
I'll post links in a few.

EDIT: Theres three vids,
1)
2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCIF6JF1O5U&feature=youtube_gdata_player

3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I0WfnhVs2s&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 
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IMO, the only "might as well put a rainbow bumper sticker on your car" VW exception is the Corrado. But hey, beggers can't be choosers right?
 
I love the Jetta GLI models. Specifically the MK4 version. Good looking car. 👍

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mike46and2
You can give it a cold air in take and a nice exahst. And a nice set of tires, is it the 2liter turbo?

I believe so yes.
This is in the very distant future, I kind of want it to be a sleeper, I want others to say "How the hell does that car accelerate that fast?"
I don't want a loud obnoxious exhaust, the one thing that really p***es me off is the high schoolers that think that they're so BA because they took the muffler off their Honda Civic.

The intake is probably a good idea.
Really wish this car was in GT5 so I could test it out. :)
 
The VW GLi.
Not the GTi, the GLi.
I would post pics and specs, but I'm on my iPod Touch right now.

My dad is going to get this car within the next few months, and it will most likely be mine when I get my license in a few years. (I'm 14 now)
Do you think it would be a good car to tinker with/tune it up?
I have a couple "rich" friends whose parents have already promised them Mustangs, but I want to show them that German engineering can kick any American geek's ass any day. :) (And that's coming from an American. :))

You're going to be quite embarrassed when someone mentions your GLI, or dad's GLI anyway, is hecho'd in Mexico.

14 years old and you already hate American cars? What are they teaching you in your school?
 
Where did he say he hates american cars?

If your dad is thinking of getting the current, 2011 or 2012 then I say don't do it. They turned it into a mass produced crapper for the latest gen and some of the VW quality went out the window.
 
BrutherSuperior
You're going to be quite embarrassed when someone mentions your GLI, or dad's GLI anyway, is hecho'd in Mexico.

14 years old and you already hate American cars? What are they teaching you in your school?

I get it from my dad. :)
I've never liked (or him for that matter) Japanese or American cars.
German cars are my obsession. <3
 
eSZee
Where did he say he hates american cars?

If your dad is thinking of getting the current, 2011 or 2012 then I say don't do it.

He's already decided on the car, I'm not positive on the year, but I believe he wants a '09.
 
Ahhh, they're all complete driving noobs that can't tell the clutch from the brake.
And you're 14? Pot, meet Kettle.
gogatrs
And, with a good deal of tuning knowledge, I think I could beat em.
Start with the $300 chip that gives you 80 extra horsepower.
 
For the money, American is still the best way to go. But its a nice car, but if I could choose, I would go for a Stang.
 
As the resident VW and also GM guy around here, I believe I am qualified to speak to this...


Generally speaking, the value of a GLI depends mostly on the generation of the vehicle. Volkswagen has had a hit and miss track record with the car, that really takes it into some weird places, especially for me.

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The holy grail of the GLI models is unquestionably the MKII-based version. Although it is not as technically sophisticated as the versions that followed it, it was about as pure of an experience you could get. The 130 BHP 1.8L 16V engine was one helluva sweetheart, and rowing it through a five-speed box, it really was something special for the time. If I could find an MKII in good shape, I'd buy it. Immediately.

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The MKIII-based GLI technically does not exist. Although VW decided to mess with the GTI name a bit in the US, the GLI was replaced by the Jetta GLX VR6 which was by most accounts an impressive performer for the time. It was about as quick as the BMW E36, and all-in-all was a pretty nice place to be. It was far better than the GLI VR6 of the time, a car that seemed to be directionally lost outside of Europe.

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The MKIV-based GLI was otherwise a return to form by Volkswagen, but ended up being a car limited by it's chassis. It wasn't until very late in the model run (2003+) that Volkswagen had the car properly sorted out, and even then, it was only the 1.8T model that really shined in the segment. Although the VR6 version was no slouch, with the power upped on the later 1.8T models, it was pretty much deemed irrelevant.

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Moving on to the MKV version, it tends to be a little more hit and miss for me. While on the one hand, the performance is stellar, and you can't really ignore how nice the car is all the way around... It just seems a bit large, and a bit too grown up to be as rad as it should. Nevertheless, I'd still buy one, and over the GTI to boot. Skip the leather seats though, plaid is for bad-asses.

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The MKVI, I think, is strangely compelling. Although the vehicle has been significantly decontented by comparison to it's predecessor, its still a pretty nice place to be. The 2.0T returns, as does a multi-link rear suspension, and that sophisticated subtlety that the model had in previous iterations. Although the entry price is a bit steep considering what you are getting, ultimately it is still one of the best performing cars you can get in the segment.


So, in general, the GLI is a great car. The problem is that it is not the best car you can get in the segment. I'd choose one because it is a grown-up's vehicle. Very comfortable at any given time, but able to take it up to 8/10ths whenever necessary.


As for it beating up on Mustangs, don't be a bloody pillock. I understand that you want to show up the kids with American cars, I did the same thing as a kid with my own Volkswagen, but you're not going to outgun a Mustang GT or a Camaro Z/28. It is reasonable if you do not like American cars, but take some time to learn about them. For the most part, German vehicles are not all they are supposed to be. Especially the products that come out of the Haus of Volkswagen.
 
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Depends what Mustang, depends what GLi. You're probably going to have some trouble, especially with any new one, or less new GT. If it's a new GT, forget about it.
 
Wanna race?
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(To make it fair, I'll bring the 2.0T)
 
I hate to burst your bubble but I just bought a 08 gli and had a 08 gti for 3 years, you wont beat a new mustang v6 let alone the v8. The only mustang it will beat is the older v6 mustangs with about 210 hp. Even then its a really close race. The gli is not meant for that kind of stuff. Sure you could stage 2 the car after about 2 grand in mods but even then I HIGHLY doubt it could beat any recent mustang with the 4.6 3v.

I still say its a better car because its roomier and more comfy and can be easily flung around corners :).
 
You're going to be quite embarrassed when someone mentions your GLI, or dad's GLI anyway, is hecho'd in Mexico.

14 years old and you already hate American cars? What are they teaching you in your school?

The gti and gli models are made in germany, along with most other 2.0t cars.

And you're 14? Pot, meet Kettle.

Start with the $300 chip that gives you 80 extra horsepower.

500 dollar stg 2 chip with supporting mods will run you in total about 2 grand and its only brings you up about 70ish. (stage 1 is like 50 dollars less but you still need some parts, at least for the mkv).


Sorry for double post.
 
Is it the MKVI or MKV? My tuner for my passat has one and its pretty quick. About 300 horses, same as my passat. And trust me with the torque from these cars they are QUICK. They're fun, not very reliable, and you get to laugh at people when you say I beat you with a VW. My car smokes mustangs on the highway same with camaros. I have been beat by the SS and the GT before. So you will get beat by the V8s. Exhaust, ecu chip, and a KO4 and you'll put up 250 to 260 HP with atleast 300 lbs. of torque. Good luck with it when you get it, but don't mod it until you're atleast a senior. You don't want to **** with a car when you first get it. I've been there it was stupid. Enjoy the GLI, good luck.
 
YSSMAN
As the resident VW and also GM guy around here, I believe I am qualified to speak to this...

Generally speaking, the value of a GLI depends mostly on the generation of the vehicle. Volkswagen has had a hit and miss track record with the car, that really takes it into some weird places, especially for me.

The holy grail of the GLI models is unquestionably the MKII-based version. Although it is not as technically sophisticated as the versions that followed it, it was about as pure of an experience you could get. The 130 BHP 1.8L 16V engine was one helluva sweetheart, and rowing it through a five-speed box, it really was something special for the time. If I could find an MKII in good shape, I'd buy it. Immediately.

The MKIII-based GLI technically does not exist. Although VW decided to mess with the GTI name a bit in the US, the GLI was replaced by the Jetta GLX VR6 which was by most accounts an impressive performer for the time. It was about as quick as the BMW E36, and all-in-all was a pretty nice place to be. It was far better than the GLI VR6 of the time, a car that seemed to be directionally lost outside of Europe.

The MKIV-based GLI was otherwise a return to form by Volkswagen, but ended up being a car limited by it's chassis. It wasn't until very late in the model run (2003+) that Volkswagen had the car properly sorted out, and even then, it was only the 1.8T model that really shined in the segment. Although the VR6 version was no slouch, with the power upped on the later 1.8T models, it was pretty much deemed irrelevant.

Moving on to the MKV version, it tends to be a little more hit and miss for me. While on the one hand, the performance is stellar, and you can't really ignore how nice the car is all the way around... It just seems a bit large, and a bit too grown up to be as rad as it should. Nevertheless, I'd still buy one, and over the GTI to boot. Skip the leather seats though, plaid is for bad-asses.

The MKVI, I think, is strangely compelling. Although the vehicle has been significantly decontented by comparison to it's predecessor, its still a pretty nice place to be. The 2.0T returns, as does a multi-link rear suspension, and that sophisticated subtlety that the model had in previous iterations. Although the entry price is a bit steep considering what you are getting, ultimately it is still one of the best performing cars you can get in the segment.

So, in general, the GLI is a great car. The problem is that it is not the best car you can get in the segment. I'd choose one because it is a grown-up's vehicle. Very comfortable at any given time, but able to take it up to 8/10ths whenever necessary.

As for it beating up on Mustangs, don't be a bloody pillock. I understand that you want to show up the kids with American cars, I did the same thing as a kid with my own Volkswagen, but you're not going to outgun a Mustang GT or a Camaro Z/28. It is reasonable if you do not like American cars, but take some time to learn about them. For the most part, German vehicles are not all they are supposed to be. Especially the products that come out of the Haus of Volkswagen.

Listen to this guy, he knows what he is talking about unlike half the people here.
 
OK, I just cleared it up with my dad.
He said that he'll be getting the 2008 model with the manual gearbox.
Not sure on the engine size...
 
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