What ever happened to the fun of Gran Turismo

[Parnelli Bone]

Currently most people on this forum are complaining about why they're not getting money and how flawed GT5 is. Another bunch are exploiting loop holes to get more cash and XP. So whatever happened to playing Gran Turismo as it should be played, appreciating the Physics engine and the cars and how each and everyone has a different feel to it. Yes the reward system and AI are flawed as well as the events but GT is always about driving, lets do that instead of driving around in circles.

Everyone is going to play the game in their own manner. Even back in the day (GT2, GT3, GT4...I can't remember back to GT1) there were plenty of people complaining about flaws, and another batch of people exploiting them. And there was a third group (us) who mostly appreciated.

Not much you can do about this...peeps are gonna get into it their own way.

 

[GTP_roadrunner]

👍 I support this post. 👍

+1 here 👍

Though I have to admit to sometimes rubberband grind cause I´m such often running on empty pockets. But this is something complete different than whining about anything in the game.
All my cars come directly from the dealers and I love all of them

 

[DGXR]

To be honest, I recall having more fun in GT2 (because it was just awesome) and 3 (because it was awesome and very pretty, the killer PS2 app) than I've had with 4 and 5. The one exception is online racing... when I find a good room with skilled and respectful racers, and race in it for hours, that is a fantastic experience. It's possible I'm suffering from nostalgia euphoria, from the days back when video games were still a novelty and it was amazing just to be playing one. Now they are everywhere, we are used to them, and it takes a LOT more to impress us jaded gamers. We are spoiled. Just my $0.02

 

[ElSecundo]

It's possible I'm suffering from nostagia euphoria, from the days back when video games were still a novelty and it was amazing just to be playing one. Now they are everywhere, we are used to them, and it takes a LOT more to impress us jaded gamers. We are spoiled. Just my $0.02

I think you're right on the money. It's just the natural progression. With the first games, we didn't know any better, and everything was cool and new. But after all this time, we know what we like and want, and 'completely original' is hard to come by.

 

[10Ten]

yesterday i sit down to race. but first, i spend an hour re-upping my credits to above 5mil so i can be ready to buy the C9 if it shows in a CD. so i go round and round at Indy for a whole hour, waiting to race.

kinda sucks. opening GT5 and attaining the most fun cars now involves boredom as a necessary part of the process. you all know what i'm talking about.

when i get an X, i'll rubberband it a bit just to keep my credits high enough so i can jump on UCD/OCD cars when they show. i've been waiting so long for the cars i want that i really cannot afford to ever be less than 5mil. otherwise i may miss my chance to buy. in other words, grinding is necessary for me. blaaa.

 

[Negrumir]

I think the problem with people these days (and this is my main gripe) is that people tend to just go on forums and complain. The people that love the game steer away from the forums because of all the whiners. If they really like the game, they'll be playing it. The other things about forums is that they simply breed hate/ Once one guy points out a problem, then all of a sudden everyone has to complain about it like they discovered it themselves. Often these problems are totally out of the way and rarely affect the main game at all. (not to say the problems shouldn't be fixed, but the constant complaining is the problem) It's as if one guy drives down a back road and hits a huge pot-hole, he then tells everyone about this pot-hole and now everyone drive down the road, hits the pot-hole and bitches about it as if it's on a major highway.

Another thing is the ability to update games and add DLC. People don't appreciate what there is because there's the option to add to it or change it. Take that away and they'll either like it and play it or hate it and leave. Instead of just moving on to another game, everyone just screams "Patch patch patch!" or "DLC DLC DLC!"

I don't think there should be leaderboards really. Maybe just friend leaderboards but nothing more. Why? Simple. What's gonna happen if your lap times or wins will rank you worldwide? People are gonna cheat, glitch, and exploit everything they can to get a higher rank. People are gonna boost themselves and themselves and start discriminating people with lower ranks and such. It'll be like people in CoD or Halo judging everyone by their K/D. When there were no prizes online, people wouldn't press so hard to win, and not in a good way. Now I see a lot of "win at any cost."

When I play online, I find tons of people just having fun playing the game. Occasionally you'll hear about problems in the game but not too often. On these forums, you find people whining and complaining about things that have been discussed to death, begging for DLC, scamming each other out of cars, and comparing every other game on the market to GT5.

Sometimes I think about just leaving almost every forum I use. Sure there's a lot of nice people and great knowledge to be had, but there's so much complaining all across the internet that it's honestly depressing.

I have so much more fun when I don't get on forums. I really wish I could hang out with these cool people, but not be subjected to either violent hatred and overzealous fanboyism.

 

[robbo6]

Often these problems are totally out of the way and rarely affect the main game at all.

I find this completely untrue, most things I see people complaining about are the economy of the game and the repercussions of that. You CANNOT get anything that affects a game like GT MORE!! It's a game about collecting cars as much as anything and PD have seemingly done everything they can to make collecting cars in GT5 HARDER than any previous GT game. Also I see (and do) moan about the many flaws and inaccuracies in the games physics (mainly tyre physics) Which again has a MAJOR impact on the main game.

GT5 is a major step backwards in the GT series in MANY areas. PD NEEDS to be shown this otherwise they will continue to go in the wrong direction. What causes the hatred is the plethora of people complaining about the complainers.....oh the Irony of that!!

 

[DGXR]

It's as if one guy drives down a back road and hits a huge pot-hole, he then tells everyone about this pot-hole and now everyone drives down the road, hits the pot-hole and bitches about it

Is this really hilarious, or is it just me? I just imagined a bunch of fanboy rice-racers driving into a big pothole on purpose and getting mad.

 

[BRP17]

Physics/Sim side is spot on in GT5... nothing to complain about there...

Really ?
No complaints about the fact that you get less grip using harder tires,
with no reduction in wear?

 

[Negrumir]

I find this completely untrue, most things I see people complaining about are the economy of the game and the repercussions of that. You CANNOT get anything that affects a game like GT MORE!! It's a game about collecting cars as much as anything and PD have seemingly done everything they can to make collecting cars in GT5 HARDER than any previous GT game. Also I see (and do) moan about the many flaws and inaccuracies in the games physics (mainly tyre physics) Which again has a MAJOR impact on the main game.

GT5 is a major step backwards in the GT series in MANY areas. PD NEEDS to be shown this otherwise they will continue to go in the wrong direction. What causes the hatred is the plethora of people complaining about the complainers.....oh the Irony of that!!

I didn't say anything about trading at all. And yes, I agree that there are quite a few things that could be changed to makes things much better.
The thing is that we can still race, earn money to collect cars, tune up cars, race online, etc. That's really what it's about right? So after making the issues known (by the number of threads on trading, duping, grinding, and the like, I'd say the issues are well known now) why do people continue to post the same tired junk over and over? Why must it be said as many times as possible and in as large font in all caps? Why can't we go back to the game or *gasp* maybe even another game while we wait for the resolution to the problem.

Another thing is people who quit playing GT5 that show up here just to tell everyone (as if we care) that they quit. Or they continue to complain about issues with a game they no longer have.

To defend what looks like total hypocrisy on my part, I'm at work and can't play the game right now. I generally don't rant like this and would rather be discussing the good parts of the game, but occasionally I feel like venting a bit. I'm not against the complaints or the complainers, I'm against the complaining.

 

[Cod_Father]

Just like in life/politics, it's the few in the minority with the loudest voices that tend to be heard. Most people do just enjoy the game. (I've enjoyed every minute and still can't wait to turn on my PS3 after the wife goes to bed). I've traded a little, duped a few, and birthday'd a few cars, and now just level up and look for cars I want. Still a blast, and I'm assuming there are a lot more like me out there, we just sit back and read the comments and don't worry about whether anyone thinks I've exploited the game.

And in the words of Bobby Mcferrin - "don't worry, be happy" ?

Ha! What you've written is me to a T. Except I also like delving into photomode.

 

[ChadSpeed]

I do enjoy GT for fun, but after 5 iterations of the series the fun is getting old sooner with every title, not enough new experiences/features for my taste.

 

[ESCUDO 1800hp]

Currently most people on this forum are complaining about why they're not getting money and how flawed GT5 is. Another bunch are exploiting loop holes to get more cash and XP. So whatever happened to playing Gran Turismo as it should be played, appreciating the Physics engine and the cars and how each and everyone has a different feel to it. Yes the reward system and AI are flawed as well as the events but GT is always about driving, lets do that instead of driving around in circles.

Want more single player events. More "everyday" car events (i.e. Volkswagen Golf type of cars), more sports car events (Viper, Vette, etc.), more supercar events, more race car events, more touring car events, more dirt and snow, more drift challenges, more NASCAR, more WRC, (only a couple) more tracks, more everything.

 

[Niko-H]

To me, some of the fun of Gran Turismo was lost in GT5, and I think many people feel the same way.

It's not fun to finally overcome that epic championship series and get rewarded with a lame prize car like what happens with even most of the late game events.

It's not fun to race the Dream Car Championship (a joke whenever the Jaguar enters, which is most of the time) over and over again and realize that you're still several million credits short of that F2007/F10/Ford GT40/Ferrari P4.

It's not fun running thousands of laps around an oval track if by some reason you want to collect a bunch of expensive cars that you enjoy driving and/or want to try out...Rally, LMPs, Group C, Super GT, etc.

It's not fun having a game with 1000 cars and feeling like you only have access to a fraction of that because so many of them are lumped into a used car dealership which is also filled with dozens of duplicate cars and ("dupers aside") god forbid that anyone would want to trade for a rare car somehow.

It's not fun when most of the "marquee" events in the game are disappointments - Dream Car Championship, GT World, Super GT, Polyphony Digital Cup... Not every race has to be (or should be) like the Historic Racing Cup, but they shouldn't be runaways either.

It's not fun running 5 laps of Cape Ring Full over and over again because the track list is on the short side.

Yes, I'm exaggerating a little with each of those points. None of them make me want to snap my GT5 disc in half and throw it in the street, but all of these little annoyances take away some of the overall fun of the game.

GT5 is still a great game. I enjoy playing it every time I boot up my PS3. It's fun taking a BMW M3 to Nurburging. It's fun making laps around Suzuka in a Super GT NSX. Some of the most fun I've ever had playing GT5 was when a friend and I saw how far we could push the '06 Focus ST on High Speed Ring. The Historic Racing Cup and a few other events were awesome!

But why does GT5 have to be "just" a driving simulator? Why can't it be a racing simulator? And why can't it be a well laid out racing game while we're at it? I think the fact that GT5 struggles to put these three together is what many people are frustrated about.

 

[KrazyM82]

Currently most people on this forum are complaining about why they're not getting money and how flawed GT5 is. Another bunch are exploiting loop holes to get more cash and XP. So whatever happened to playing Gran Turismo as it should be played, appreciating the Physics engine and the cars and how each and everyone has a different feel to it. Yes the reward system and AI are flawed as well as the events but GT is always about driving, lets do that instead of driving around in circles.

To sum it up for you.
Corporate funding = corporate interests / agenda 🤬 up a really good game.
Nissan wanted to find a race car driver, so PD made a grinding game to find the best grinder for Nissan.

GT6 anyone?

 

[Ace Furious]

I'm with OP. Whats so WRONG with this game that everyone is complaining so much? I'm lovin' the fact that you can make all kinds of tracks and the driving physics are superb! The AI has some issues, but in comparison to all past GT's, It's WAY better! This is a driver's game and any GT fan knows that's what it's all about. Yeah, there's more goofy glitches than I expected, but in a way it almost feels nostalgic of the past GT's to me. To clarify further, GT5 feels to me like what I remember feeling like when GT1 and GT2 came out, except now it's being reborn from those older ones, which I like. Seems that most were expecting it to be more like GT4 on steriods, but what we got instead was GT2 on crack! I think Polyphony knows what they're doing; they've pretty much perfected what the game actually is - THE REAL DRIVING SIMULATOR - and what we'll be seeing in the future is refinements to AI, damage, etc. And what's with the whining about having to grind for endless hours to get a $20 mil museum race car? It's fair! In real life you don't get to have museum race cars, and even if you could, you would be an idiot for racing it. Just EARN IT, it's a freakin' ultra rare piece of historical racing art!
I mean, good grief, can't anybody focus on the near mind blowing achievement that PD has made in this game, like the astounding detail of the premium cars and the seeming endlessness of photo mode, or the incredible accuracy of Nurburgring, etc., etc.?! I don't care what the whiners whine about, my hat's off to PD for keeping me satisfied with the driving experience in cars that I'll never get to really drive.

 

[ScariestGariest]

even if you could, you would be an idiot for racing it.

I would totally bust some donuts in an XJ13.

 

[Ace Furious]

I would totally bust some donuts in an XJ13.

Yeah well, donuts ain't racing!

 

[ScariestGariest]

Yeah well, donuts ain't racing!

Unless you are on Special Stage.

 

[Andrew9RS]

Unless you are on Special Stage.

Epic

 

[davidfuryboy]

i got the ps3 mainly coz of gt5 after the complaints am still waiting to get it now if someone can tell me if this game will be worth my hard earn cash i like the gt series since gt1to gt4 mainly for the cars physics awesome detail and driving aids turn off its a real fun to drive and win races but if some flaws ruin my fun its kind of unfair coz have waited all this time so is gt5 worth it have the updates reduce some flaws please reply me and thanks to all gt fan

 

[Host_Killer]

I think a lot of you complaining about the complainers, don't get it - The game isn't all that. Ferrari Challenge for PS3 physics were as good, maybe better. Graphics weren't as good as GT5, by half. But PolyPHONY Digital also promise a COMPLETE and POLISHED game... And anyone that would argue this game is both of those is living in a fantasy land or receives a paycheck from PD.

You can take bits and pieces from existing games to create a complete game.

I have been racing online and computer/console racing games since Indy Car Series for PC and Grand Prix Legends. This game needs lots of polish.

I was a duper and I don't care(Wife, 2 kids, Job, + coach) - collect Race Cars. I am not a 0 mile duper - everyone of my cars have lots of miles on them.

I enjoy racing against other people online... That's what I do... I wish this game had more in car views (Premiums) and a more detailed car setup. To me the set-up is rudimentary.

Lastly, PolyPHONY Digital stop trying to control how people choose to play the game THEY bought and deliver on your promise = complete and polished driving simulator.

 

[mykem]

That's the thing: GT5 is more fun with no assists on, no HUD display, manual gears, a sensible choice of tires and a DFGT. Trying to keep my 787b on the track at Nordschleife while maintaining a quick pace is tense, immersive and fun. Even better when I secure a win.

Currently saving up for a decent 3DTV to add to the fun. 👍

While the choice is entirely yours but now that GT5 supports multi-screen setup, instead of coughing the money on a single 3D screen, you should seriously consider the multiple monitor setup. Here's a good example why (photo courtesy of Mr Latte):

I don't know how comparable it is to get one 3D screen versus three PS3 (or two if you've already got a PS3) and three smaller monitors (24" seems to be the ideal size). Although I have nothing against 3D but if you're more of a sim driving enthusiast and less of a movie/home theater buff, I would consider the other option.

You can find GT5 multi-screen setup guide here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=189301

I think a lot of you complaining about the complainers, don't get it - The game isn't all that. Ferrari Challenge for PS3 physics were as good, maybe better. Graphics weren't as good as GT5, by half. But PolyPHONY Digital also promise a COMPLETE and POLISHED game... And anyone that would argue this game is both of those is living in a fantasy land or receives a paycheck from PD.

FC for all its worth was a decent game with a passable physics and FFB. One of the most fundamental property to a good FFB is that it should represent the feel of the front wheel in relation to the pavement. Yes, FC unlike GT5 does provide that understeer effect but that's about it. The best example of FFB in a driving/racing sim is obviously in iRacing and possibly netKar Pro. To describe the FFB in those two sims I have to quote the word of AeroMechanical from the NoGrip Racing forum:

"....iRacing feels a little more 'rubbery' if that makes sense. Pneumatic trail or whatever. There is a certain amount of springy play in the steering wheel around the area where the tire wants to follow its self aligning force. It gives the impression better that what I'm doing is applying force to the wheel rather than simply turning it. It really is just an impression thing though."

In regards to the bolded statement- in FC it's the complete opposite. Other than the strong centre spring, you don't get the impression that you're fighting against the tires propensity to self-align. Basically it's the reason why most people find the driving to be challenging because almost every car in FC has a very strong oversteering tendency. Although I like the game (especially the moving clouds) and for the almost two years I played FC, I've regard it to be a decent game but overrated by some.

GT5, got almost everything right with its FFB implementation. Yes, it's not perfect but with my G25 cranked up to 10, cars like the Corvette Z06 feels absolutely sublime. And there's the track. Try comparing the Monza in FC and the one in GT5. In FC, the Parabolica feels absolutely tame (other than the oversteer issue). Whereas in GT5, the lateral pull one would experience in a long, sweeping like the Curva Parabolica is well presented in the FFB.

 

[TOMMY GUNS]

I think the problem with people these days (and this is my main gripe) is that people tend to just go on forums and complain. The people that love the game steer away from the forums because of all the whiners. If they really like the game, they'll be playing it. The other things about forums is that they simply breed hate/ Once one guy points out a problem, then all of a sudden everyone has to complain about it like they discovered it themselves. Often these problems are totally out of the way and rarely affect the main game at all. (not to say the problems shouldn't be fixed, but the constant complaining is the problem) It's as if one guy drives down a back road and hits a huge pot-hole, he then tells everyone about this pot-hole and now everyone drive down the road, hits the pot-hole and bitches about it as if it's on a major highway.

Another thing is the ability to update games and add DLC. People don't appreciate what there is because there's the option to add to it or change it. Take that away and they'll either like it and play it or hate it and leave. Instead of just moving on to another game, everyone just screams "Patch patch patch!" or "DLC DLC DLC!"

I don't think there should be leaderboards really. Maybe just friend leaderboards but nothing more. Why? Simple. What's gonna happen if your lap times or wins will rank you worldwide? People are gonna cheat, glitch, and exploit everything they can to get a higher rank. People are gonna boost themselves and themselves and start discriminating people with lower ranks and such. It'll be like people in CoD or Halo judging everyone by their K/D. When there were no prizes online, people wouldn't press so hard to win, and not in a good way. Now I see a lot of "win at any cost."

When I play online, I find tons of people just having fun playing the game. Occasionally you'll hear about problems in the game but not too often. On these forums, you find people whining and complaining about things that have been discussed to death, begging for DLC, scamming each other out of cars, and comparing every other game on the market to GT5.

Sometimes I think about just leaving almost every forum I use. Sure there's a lot of nice people and great knowledge to be had, but there's so much complaining all across the internet that it's honestly depressing.

I have so much more fun when I don't get on forums. I really wish I could hang out with these cool people, but not be subjected to either violent hatred and overzealous fanboyism.

Well said. I could not agree more and have been thinking the same thing. These forums (aside from the knowledge of the skilled) are depressing to read each day. I'm also sick of people comparing GT5 to the up & coming SHIFT 2 & saying that it's gonna destroy GT5. Really??? They're living in a fantasy world. I loved SHIFT but lets be real here. While SHIFT 2 may be a great game, I hardly doubt that it's gonna completely blow GT5 out of the water. Yes, this game has flaws and plenty of them but it's still an excellent game with great realism when it comes to racing in your livingroom. I've certainly gotten my money's worth out of it and will happily continue to do so - despite the naysayers.

 

[RIPCDE]

This is what happened to it.

When someone decided that there was a proper way to play it, instead of each individual getting to decide how they could enjoy it in their own way without receiving criticism, insults, or ridicule for doing so, that is when the fun went away.

Imagine the flame wars, if someone decided there was only one proper way to play a GTA game.

I don't think we have to imagine the flame wars. Every other thread I read has someone ridiculing the original poster or the answers given. and it sickens me.

"Proper" way to play GT5. LMAO, in four monthes the game has had 7 updates. The Rules keep changing and we all try to adapt.
Maybe everyone should try and help each other do that.

 

[furai]

davidfuryboy i got the ps3 mainly coz of gt5 after the complaints am still waiting to get it now if someone can tell me if this game will be worth my hard earn cash i like the gt series since gt1to gt4 mainly for the cars physics awesome detail and driving aids turn off its a real fun to drive and win races but if some flaws ruin my fun its kind of unfair coz have waited all this time so is gt5 worth it have the updates reduce some flaws please reply me and thanks to all gt fan

Your collection isn't complete without GT5. Surely. most people expected it to be the 150% perfect game after almost 6 years of development, and the game couldn't live up to these expectations. The physics and graphics are awesome. It had several flaws in the beginning and still has some, but PD patches them step by step. They seem to react to the wishes of their fans, so we`ve got adjustable gear-ratios now, the possibility to add weight, adjustable steering-sensitivity and much more. I'm playing every day (level 34.6 A-spec and 38 B-spec now). Buy it, you won't regret it. BUT:The career-ladder is steep and the cars are hard to earn - that's GT5!

 

[spunwicked]

While the choice is entirely yours but now that GT5 supports multi-screen setup, instead of coughing the money on a single 3D screen, you should seriously consider the multiple monitor setup. Here's a good example why (photo courtesy of Mr Latte):

I don't know how comparable it is to get one 3D screen versus three PS3 (or two if you've already got a PS3) and three smaller monitors (24" seems to be the ideal size). Although I have nothing against 3D but if you're more of a sim driving enthusiast and less of a movie/home theater buff, I would consider the other option.

You can find GT5 multi-screen setup guide here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=189301



FC for all its worth was a decent game with a passable physics and FFB. One of the most fundamental property to a good FFB is that it should represent the feel of the front wheel in relation to the pavement. Yes, FC unlike GT5 does provide that understeer effect but that's about it. The best example of FFB in a driving/racing sim is obviously in iRacing and possibly netKar Pro. To describe the FFB in those two sims I have to quote the word of AeroMechanical from the NoGrip Racing forum:

"....iRacing feels a little more 'rubbery' if that makes sense. Pneumatic trail or whatever. There is a certain amount of springy play in the steering wheel around the area where the tire wants to follow its self aligning force. It gives the impression better that what I'm doing is applying force to the wheel rather than simply turning it. It really is just an impression thing though."

In regards to the bolded statement- in FC it's the complete opposite. Other than the strong centre spring, you don't get the impression that you're fighting against the tires propensity to self-align. Basically it's the reason why most people find the driving to be challenging because almost every car in FC has a very strong oversteering tendency. Although I like the game (especially the moving clouds) and for the almost two years I played FC, I've regard it to be a decent game but overrated by some.

GT5, got almost everything right with its FFB implementation. Yes, it's not perfect but with my G25 cranked up to 10, cars like the Corvette Z06 feels absolutely sublime. And there's the track. Try comparing the Monza in FC and the one in GT5. In FC, the Parabolica feels absolutely tame (other than the oversteer issue). Whereas in GT5, the lateral pull one would experience in a long, sweeping like the Curva Parabolica is well presented in the FFB.

In an ideal world, I would have both 3D and a multi-screen set up. However, I think my missus might not be entirely convinced at my need for another 2 PS3's! I have a feeling she would probably go a little bit mental if I came home rocking 3 new monitors and 2 new PS3's. At least with the 3D TV I can claim it's in the interests of our family to be 3D ready 👍

 

[NapalmSanctuary]

XP grinding killed it for me. GT had the license system that was way ahead of its time in terms of race entry based on merit, the idea is still way ahead of the XP system. I feel like XP in a GT game is a step backwards. Grinding to build up and race mod a car is fun(GT1/2). Running races over and over cuz there are multiple badass cars to be won from those races is fun (GT3). Endless Grinding for XP and levels in a game where the prize cars suck and only a few cars can be race modded (none of which i particularly like) is pointless to me. It screws up the pacing IMO.

As far as Driving goes, i love to race. I just dont like the tracks in this game very much aside from the GT classic courses. i was always a bigger fan of the fantasy courses cuz the scenery was so much better IMO.

 

[Oyashiro-sama]

I'm sorry, I did not read all the opinions in this topic...

But I understand how people feel. GT5 is a great game when it comes to driving! The physics and each car behavior is just superb. But GT5 is severing lacking the fun that the previous GT had (I had all except GT1). I will explain the problems:

1- A-Spec races are super boring. They were created on a hurry. The requirements are a joke. For example, you can use big cars in "compact car races". You can use a super car (Formula, X2010 or other) in almost every race, making them simply idiotic.

2- A-Spec races are either too short (only 3 or 5 laps) or too long (24H, 1000km, Formula Championship where you can't save the progress in the middle)

3- License tests are too easy (except one or two tests).

4- S License tests are a joke. Obviously done on a hurry

5- Overall, it's super easy to get gold, or in a few, super hard (Vettel). The events/licenses/races that have the difficulty level just right, can be counted with your fingers.

6. The B-Spec is ultra boring. More laps than A-Spec, no fast forward. A pain.

7. The experience system is a damn failure. Where is the fun of getting all gold in b-spec races, and having no experience to do the next race. I already had to put my driver playing dozens of repeated races to gain experience to do the next race. Where is the fun in this????

8. To few money awarded....

9. Some standard cars should not even exist in the game as they look really ugly. Too many similar cars for the Japanese manufacturers.

10. No pit-strategy needed what so-ever. Tyre and fuel consumption only on the later few races...

11. The weather is only implemented on some tracks. The changes in the weather conditions are also a joke. Especially online. No need to go to the pit to change tyres because the rain stopped/started. Changes in night/day is also abrupt.

12. The graphics are superb, but the shadows sometimes just annoys you. Smoke and some rain effects are sometimes super ugly.

13. We play games to have fun. Obvious PD is not having this in mind with 24hour races with no saves and the vettel challenge. If it's to annoy me, I might not buy GT6.

14. A-Spec has way too few races and there is no manufacturer-races like in previous GTs.

15- Online is a joke. The room search is a joke, no option to disable the mics of other players, too long to load, random car selection races always with the same set of cars, and so many other problems....

16- Menus take to long to load. Each used car I buy, I need to wait a lot just to wash the car and change the oil. Someone just stop that stupid animations in GT auto and stop the annoying music.

17. Replays could also be improved (fast forwarding). In race replay would be nice (like in Grand Prix where you can replay the last 30 or so seconds during the race)

18. Stupid hidden trophies, not even worth commenting on. If you want to find the hidden trophies by yourself, forget it. Just search for the complete list on the net - in this case it's worth to cheat.

20. Does it seems like they are trying to make me buy a wheel? First Nascar, but I golded it. Now Vettel... whats this scheme, ummmm?

So that's it.

 

[snowxdadx3]

GT5 is as fun as I make it. Just started goofing around with photomode/phototravel. Woohoo!! Running the widget during the day, racing at nite. Last nite, for a new twist, I started A-spec over from the beginning....had a HOOT! Borrowing cars, adding friends, modding cars out, driving with aids off and MT on, sport/comfort tires, buying a couple of Civics, full modding 1, running the other stock, reading the museum cards, and I haven't even came close to "completeing" the game. Maybe I'm old school, but none of the "games" I have played/owned over the years have came close to giving me this much bang for my buck.


I AM having fun with GT5.



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