Allow me to question your motives for responding with criticism to something I feel passionate about without reason?
I wasn't trying to criticize you just wanted to make a point, and i'm probably just as unappreciative as you to some or most of the things you've commented on.
Reading this thorough response makes it apparent that I didn't explain myself well enough. I enjoy nudges, door to door slides and the like. What I detailed that irritated me were things that will easily irritate you if you'd like to add me on PSN and allow me to show you exactly the type of behavior I was discussing.
I shall delve further into detail piece by piece.
Leaning: Something that can occur whether my opponent respectfully or disrespectfully finds himself on the inside line whilst I'm on the outside. He then proceeds to use my tires to aid in his traction while he makes the turn using the tighter line and carrying more speed, leaving me to try not to fall into the grass because he was putting the weight of his car onto mine.
This is a habit that is usually formed in offline races against the zombie AI, it can carry over into online by drivers with poor experience. It is an unacceptable practice in just about every form of motorsport.
Thanks for the clarification, now I get what your saying
Bumping out of the way: There's strategic bumping that upsets a racers line but not his pace, and then there's the PIT Maneuver. This usually happens when an opponent comes barreling into a turn, tries to cut under me but fails because he's carrying too much speed, connects with my bumper and seriously disconnects my rear tires. It could also happen when a somewhat clean driver barely gets his nose under me (BARELY) and expects me to leave the door open for him to come chugging along in under me. Instead I legally move down to defend my line at which point he'll choose to go up and choose not to slow down and use that nose to seriously disconnect my rear tires.
This is unacceptable behavior in any series.[/COLOR]
Now allow me to point out the "if there isn't any room to slide under you" part of that which I think you missed. These are the drivers that don't take any amount of the following as an answer: no, defensive driving, white lines, grass, etc. I don't give room for them to invite themselves under me, but they do it anyways. Do you understand why this action upsets me?
Once again I agree after your clarification, could have been summed up as corner cutting, which is a NONO even if it's not involving another driver.
This is just one that irritates and entertains me in a painful sort of way at the same time. Allow me to ask a question: Do you consider the Micra Cup Car, Spoon/Honda Fit Race Car, Lexus IS200 GT-1, Mine's BNR34 Skyline GT-R N1 Base and TVR Cerberus Speed 12 to be race cars or street cars?
My disdain for "Street Cars Only" rooms mostly stems from early races I had on GT5's online. There were more than a few occasions where my Race-cars were bested by fully-tuned "street machines". This proved to me on multiple occasions that if both drivers are on the same level, then it doesn't matter how much or little aerodynamic aid the other car has because they'll be competitive. Then there's the "entertainment" part I mentioned since a fully tuned street car on street-illegal racing tires has aero to show (maybe a few other very subtle differences) as the only major performance difference between the RM and Street versions.
By the way; No, I do not need to have my head examined. Yes a Z06 RM is going to have a performance boost over a regular Z06. I'm talking about racing cars in general being allowed in lobbies that allow them based on the regulations being enforced using GT's menus. If someone limits a lobby to 550PP then any car that enters is going to have a competitive advantage regardless of it being a race car or a street car. While the Z06 RM might blow away the Z06 any day of the week, the '69 Camaro Z/28 Racemod might prove to be a very interesting competitor to that same road-going Z06.
In certain instances there's no doubt like you say a spruced up street car will blow the doors off certain race cars of lower levels. I'm just saying that a lot of people get in a room where everybodies racing say Vettes, Audi R8's, Ferrari's, other street cars etc., of a relatively even performance level and they try to get in with say an RM'ed Z06 and then when the host kicks them after repeatedly telling him no Rm's he gets all pissed off.
Lastly, as a car collector in GT5 I prefer to buy low-mileage cars that strike my interest. As I buy these in bulk while I'm saving for other more expensive cars at the same time, I don't have the money nor the desire to upgrade them. I like good cars that come good from the factory. The point is: There's never any rooms that seem to fill up with showroom stock cars. When I initially entered "Street Cars Only" rooms, it was with the hope that I would be able to race some of my factory-tuned or generally fast cars against other machines. Sadly that was never the case as many of the cars that I'd find in the rooms were more powerful than comparable race cars I owned.
This is just bad slang on the GT5 online. The term should be "No Race Mod Allowed." Maybe people should put the description down as "Factory Stock Sports Cars" or something like that to be more clear.
I'm entertained that you agree with this one, yet you disagree with 2 and 3. I posted it because I was in a room once where the host specifically asked for Super GT or Race Modded cars. I had a very enjoyable race with another of the patrons, but when the host saw that she was using a car that wasn't what she said she wanted (the host and the victim were both female drivers), the host removed her from the room with no warning or patience, then laughed about it afterwards.
I cringed inside. The host's logic was quite flawed as I later came to realize. I asked if I could use my Corvette C5-R (not wanting to assume and get booted). She said "no" and told me "Super GT and RM only!". So I got out my much faster, much more fully tuned (not to mention racing-soft tire equipped) Corvette ZR-1 RM that was apparently legal. It was a race I didn't finish for reasons #1 on top of #7 on my 'Grinds my gears' list
I know this because I'm guilty of it. In the early days of GT5 (soooo loooong agoooooo
) I would create 355hp/1000kg rooms and let in all comers. Race cars, street cars, tuned cars anything was welcome. Nobody could beat my Nissan Silvia RM for the very fact that it's maximum horsepower was 355.... and minimum weight was 1000kg on the dot.... It had nothing to do with it being a race car since other race cars couldn't beat it either. A "street"-tuned Mazda RX-7 Spirit R was one of my closest competitors to this day.
I dont't know about this one. Guess it works both ways 'cause I've been in many a room where the host has done this and people set there cars up (horsepower limiter, weight ballast) to match the criteria and the host gets beat. Myself I don't have a problem with it, to each there own opinion.
It's on the bottom right of each post right to the left of the "EDIT" button. To avoid multi-posting, use the Edit button to add together statements instead of posting again.
Thank you for reading through my first list of Grinds-my-gears (and hopefully this response to your response) but please understand that I didn't simply put down baseless claims. That was a thought-out list of "Things that seriously tick me off".
I do look forward to you answering the questions I've highlighted in black.