What Have You Done Today - (Computer Version)

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^^ True, since most programs are installed through the Ubuntu Software Center.

But, once again, we come back to me selling to Uni students, which have their little apps and programs they need for work (miraculously -_-), and they want Windows. Honestly ticks me off a bit, they can't be happy with something unless it's famous, even if it does the same job. I had one guy tell me he wouldn't buy the computer unless it had an Intel Pentium 4 in it, his reasoning, "Because Intel are used in everything so they're better than AMD". Even though the chip that was already in the system was a Dual core Athlon 64 X2 @ 3Ghz, and the P4 he wanted was @ 2.3GHz. Tell me where that makes sence.
 
I'm the biggest tech nerd there is and I don't touch linux with a 50 foot pole. No need to make things 10x harder from software availability point of view for the sake of a $100 Window Licence.

When I worked for a university we didn't even support Non-Windows/Mac systems. The printing system didn't work, the wi-fi depended on your build, definitely not worth it for students.
 
Casio
When I worked for a university we didn't even support Non-Windows/Mac systems.
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Same with the campus I'm at. We're getting to the point where we're almost not supporting XP...

The only time I've touched Linux was a test to see if it would run a theoretical HTPC, then I found out Ubuntu and Netflix don't get along. I wasn't terribly impressed.
 
Tlowr4, sorry, I was using my iPad. As for Linux and the command line, it's possible to install some apps via GUI instead of using the command line, except that it's harder. For example, what is easier: installing gimp by copying and pasting "sudo-apt-get install gimp" into the Terminal, or opening Ubuntu Software Center, searching, and then entering your password in this huge dialog.
 
Biobunny
For example, what is easier: installing gimp by copying and pasting "sudo-apt-get install gimp" into the Terminal.
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But people are impatient and want to click and download. Not browse the web to find out how to install a program.

Therefor Win/Mac will never be beaten by something like Linux.
 
bergauk
the market share for Linux in general may be small, but the people that actually do use it, like it.
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Because those people actually put something of interest into their computer workings, like me, I wanted to find out how it works and stuff. But everybody else I know don't want to go that far with computers. And thus sticking at Win/Mac. And calling me for their simple software and hardware problems.

But I must say, once set up, it actually works like a charm.
 
Dennisch
Because those people actually put something of interest into their computer workings, like me, I wanted to find out how it works and stuff. But everybody else I know don't want to go that far with computers. And thus sticking at Win/Mac. And calling me for their simple software and hardware problems.

But I must say, once set up, it actually works like a charm.
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It really does. I set up a guys laptop with Linux on it and I've only had to deal with a few random calls from him asking about some of the strangest things. Aside from that, he loves it. The battery life improved, and he doesn't get viruses anymore. [He had Virut, and I was unable to cleanse the system of it]

Though if you're going to sell a Linux based machine, it's a good idea to go ahead and install basic software packages for them so the user doesn't have to do it.
 
Does Linux accept remote management from a Windows machine? If so, that would make things so much easier. :D
 
I can actually test it. Silly me. Just have to wait until a new night comes and the girlfriend goes to bed, so I can mess up the living room with moar pc and cables!
 
Biobunny
Tlowr4, sorry, I was using my iPad. As for Linux and the command line, it's possible to install some apps via GUI instead of using the command line, except that it's harder. For example, what is easier: installing gimp by copying and pasting "sudo-apt-get install gimp" into the Terminal, or opening Ubuntu Software Center, searching, and then entering your password in this huge dialog.
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Well, that's not so much easier, as it is time saving. I'd rather clickey stuff, than type confusing things (no matter how much I practice it, I can't get a hold of most of this command line stuff)...
 
tlowr4
Well, that's not so much easier, as it is time saving. I'd rather clickey stuff, than type confusing things (no matter how much I practice it, I can't get a hold of most of this command line stuff)...
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Oh the sweet times of DOS.
 
tlowr4
Well, that's not so much easier, as it is time saving. I'd rather clickey stuff, than type confusing things (no matter how much I practice it, I can't get a hold of most of this command line stuff)...
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Oh I'm learning the Linux commands in my fedora/red hat Linux class in college and I'm getting the hang of it. I'm actually enjoying it. Only the basics for moving files but apt-get is a command I remember from 2-3 years ago! I only remember it because I had to do it so often on older versions of Ubuntu. Latest Ubuntu? Pft. That thing is a breeze(easy enough to setup programs through that software center).
 
nick09
Oh I'm learning the Linux commands in my fedora/red hat Linux class in college and I'm getting the hang of it. I'm actually enjoying it. Only the basics for moving files but apt-get is a command I remember from 2-3 years ago! I only remember it because I had to do it so often on older versions of Ubuntu. Latest Ubuntu? Pft. That thing is a breeze(easy enough to setup programs through that software center).
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I've been managing my linux boxes remotely via SSH for some time now, command line only. All self taught, although some formal instruction would go miles for me and would be a great idea to get some, resources on the net makes things pretty easy for finding info on commands.

:cheers:
 
Pako
I've been managing my linux boxes remotely via SSH for some time now, command line only. All self taught, although some formal instruction would go miles for me and would be a great idea to get some, resources on the net makes things pretty easy for finding info on commands.

:cheers:
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You know that you can tun some Linux apps remotely using SSH by using the "-X" flag. You can even run Gnome Panel. Also works if you're SSHing using a Mac.
 
Ordered a new keyboard for the EEE PC that a friend was about to throw away.
When everything works I got a new toy for the next vacation ^^
Finished installing windows on the main PC, little disappointing the the new HDDs are not as fast as expected :/
 
Spike125
Ordered a new keyboard for the EEE PC that a friend was about to throw away.
When everything works I got a new toy for the next vacation ^^
Finished installing windows on the main PC, little disappointing the the new HDDs are not as fast as expected :/
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Which keyboard did you order for your PC ?
 
*Wrong thread

But I'll had that I'm going to buy new HDDs cause I think I've got one about to die. Everything works but machine just takes forever to respond. Like 15 minutes to open the start menu.
 
The internal keyboard, it's a netbook ;)

@Casio I have the exact same problem on my other PC, thought also it is the HDD, but installed windows on another HDD and same problem again, but only after a while.
Could be some corrupt driver.
But there are boot CDs to check the HDD ;)
 
Finally got my MC server going. Running Bukkit and a few standard plugins, runs extreamly well. Really pleased with it. Got a completely legit version of Win 7 on it too *exadurated wink*. Specs for those interested:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 @ 2.51GHz
4GB DDR2 300MHz RAM (board only supports 300MHz).
Stock HP El'Crapo motherboard.
Onboard GeForce 6150 64MB Graphics (will throw in a 512MB 8400 in a few days when I get it, got it cheap, the 6150 is a bit laggy when there's a few windows open).
80GB HDD (50GB dedicated to 7, 10GB bare, and 20GB dedicated to the broken version of Win XP on it...)

Here's the CPU validator (clickey to view full specs)



Ran Prime for 3 hours yesterday, not a single hickup, and temps maxed out at 68C (the board only runs the fans at 1000RPM, I can't get them any quicker, but I"m not complaining, it makes no noise whatsoever).

I also WorldEdited in 40'000 blocks of TNT in Minecraft to give it a stress test. Chewed it up and spat it out like it was water, all blocks were destroyed and map was re-rendered within 6 minutes.

EDIT: The power supply is old (300w), and a bit unstable (saw u to .5 of a volt change on the 5V rail), but if it screws up the hardware I'm not overly worried, I got most of it free/dirt cheap, and I've got a heap more to replace it with.
 
Ah forget graphics update. A server does not run graphic intensive programs. If you are using it as a minecraft server then all it has to do is run the server, nothing else, and you should try installing MineOS on the 10GB partition to see how well getting rid of all of the GUI will help. ;)
 
Casio
*Wrong thread

But I'll had that I'm going to buy new HDDs cause I think I've got one about to die. Everything works but machine just takes forever to respond. Like 15 minutes to open the start menu.
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I went to backup everything on the drive to an external last night, 30kb/s it maxed out as...and 1.5TB of data to move...do the math...

Somewhat bizarrely, I transfered the drive to another PC and it seems to perform fine, still going to back everything up that and then format and reinstall Windows. Hoping it's that and not something weird with the motherboard.

Currently pricing myself a TS-412 with 4x2TB so I can stop worrying about this junk.
 
tlowr4
Finally got my MC server going. Running Bukkit and a few standard plugins, runs extreamly well. Really pleased with it. Got a completely legit version of Win 7 on it too *exadurated wink*.
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32 or 64 bit?
 
nick09
Ah forget graphics update. A server does not run graphic intensive programs. If you are using it as a minecraft server then all it has to do is run the server, nothing else, and you should try installing MineOS on the 10GB partition to see how well getting rid of all of the GUI will help. ;)
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I've found the drivers for the 6150 and things seem to be running a bit smoother. I've got an 8500GT here that I'll drop in if I can find the mounting screws for the heatsink (lost them :nervous:)...

I tried MineOS and it buggered me over a few times, but that was because I didn't have PortForwarding enabled on my Router (thus the problem with people joining, has now been fixed). I might give it another go, and it means I can access and work on the server no matter where I am... sorta like remote access. I'll see. I might just drop a totally different drive in.
DQuaN
32 or 64 bit?
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Home Premium 64-bit. As I said, it's completely, and fully, 100% legit *wink*... *runs away very fast*
 
Ah good. Make sure you are running Java 64bit too. How much memory have you allocated to your server?
 
There's 4GB in the rig, and I dedicated 2.5GB to the server. I run a few apps in the background (Afterburner and HWmonitor) to monitor temps, so I need quite a bit in the rig.

Clickey for specs:
 
So in the batch file command to start the server you have set java to use 2560?
 

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