What is the most important turn on the Nurburgring (poll) Bergwerk leads!

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What is the most important turn?

  • Hattenbach

    Votes: 1 1.1%

  • Hocheichen

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Flagplutz

    Votes: 14 15.6%

  • Schwedenkreuz

    Votes: 5 5.6%

  • Aremburg

    Votes: 3 3.3%

  • Adenauer-forst

    Votes: 3 3.3%

  • Metzgesfeld

    Votes: 2 2.2%

  • Kallenhard

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Wehrselfen

    Votes: 1 1.1%

  • Exmuhle

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Bergwerk

    Votes: 24 26.7%

  • Kesselchen

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Klostertal

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Stellstrecke

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Karussell

    Votes: 12 13.3%

  • Hohe Acht

    Votes: 1 1.1%

  • Wippermann

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Eschbach

    Votes: 1 1.1%

  • Brunnchen

    Votes: 1 1.1%

  • Pfiantgarten

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Schwalbenschwarz

    Votes: 3 3.3%

  • Galgenkopf

    Votes: 15 16.7%

  • Tiergarten

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Hohenrain

    Votes: 4 4.4%
  • Total voters
    90
I picked Eschbach because it's a corner that if u missed it you will fail to take the line for the next corner. Most of the drivers will underestimate this corner because it look simple when you look at it.
 
YuRiPa
Very hard to decide, since there are many important turns where you can screw up or gain a lot. Probably some of the most important corners are Hoheneichen, the corner before the straight leading to Flugplatz, very important to gain good speed for the straight. Flugplatz is of course really important, leading to a long high speed section. I think that also the Schwedenkreuz is pretty important, it is so easy to mess up there. Many times I have flown off the track there, also because of the small bump in the corner (or just before). As others have stated, Bergwerk is also a very hard corner, still can't take it the best way. Can still win so much time there I think. Pflanzgarten is also very easy to mess up if you want to go too fast there. I think that part is different between GT5 and GT6, since I don't remember having so many issues there in GT5 as I have in GT6. In GT5 I almost always took it flat out, but in GT6 if you do that you're flying off the track. :P Galgenkopf is of course very important too, if you can get enough speed there out of the corner you can maybe gain time on the ones behind or setting yourself up for a slipstream to the car in front.

Probably Galgenkopf is the most important turn at the Nürbürgring, if I have to make a choice. But in my opinion, you can't really say that one of the corners is most important, since there are just too many curves that are important for a good lap time or race.

My favourite part is easier to decide on, that's definitely the section starting at the Hohe Acht left-right S-bend until Eschbach. Love to drive (or race) that part. :D
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Thats my favorite too but I'll extend it to Brunnchen, It almost feels like you do the same thing twice. Lol
 
If I had to pick one it would be Karussell, because you have to enter it at the right speed and not overshoot. Plus, coming out of it is slippery at times. Some like to carry the speed through and accelerate late. And others like to break more at entry and accelerate early.
 
Galgenkopf - It is a tough corner but it leads to a long straight. A driver who is Better will make a huge gain here relative to a "baseline" driver. They are all important of course, but If you are strong here it will reward you with a lot of lap time, maybe prevent the guy behind from making a pass but also give you the very best chance to overtake at Nürburg.

Also if you are known to be "strong" at this corner it may make other racers try a bit too hard here... and mistakes here also hurt you at the end of the uphill run to Antoniusbuche (sic)(Unless I spelt it right!)

"And if he loses? What then? Well if he loses precious then we eats it! If Baggins loses we eats it whole!" Some anonymous Ring addict, who was fast through Galgenkopf.
 
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Bergwerk - For some reason I just cannot get my head around this one. It is my nemesis.

It'll soak you for a TON of time with a slow exit though due to the long fast uphill run after it. I've had a 3mph difference at exit mean a 10mph difference near Klostertal in some cars.
 
Schwalbenschwarz needs more votes guys. This is the toughest corner on the track in my opinion amd its only got 1 vote. :p (also known as mini karussell)
 
what is Pfiantgarten? please correct some names...
aremburg = aremberg
flagplutz = flugplatz
and so on...

where are these:
fuchsröhre (downhill between aremberg and adenauer forst)
mutkurve (part of klostertal)
hedwigshöhe (the S between hohe acht and wippermann)
bellof-s (between pflanzgarten and schwalbenschwanz)

my vote for mutkurve, killer-inside-curb at 200kmh
 
swaytec
what is Pfiantgarten? please correct some names...
aremburg = aremberg
flagplutz = flugplatz
and so on...

where are these:
fuchsröhre (downhill between aremberg and adenauer forst)
mutkurve (part of klostertal)
hedwigshöhe (the S between hohe acht and wippermann)
bellof-s (between pflanzgarten and schwalbenschwanz)

my vote for mutkurve, killer-inside-curb at 200kmh
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The names are no longer editable, refer to the map in op.
 
Johnnypenso
It's not "toughest" corner though, it's "most important".
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But the toughest is usually also the most important turn. If you're likely to crash, and do crash. You lose a lot of time especially if Heavy Damage is on. I dont agree with the first and second choices because I mastered both of those corners years ago. They are fairly easy corners followed by a straight that is quickly topped out on... Flugplatz though. That I agree with. That corner is occasionally devastating haha.
 
The Karussell isn't even important, just go round it without crashing. 💡

sk8er913
But the toughest is usually also the most important turn. If you're likely to crash, and do crash. You lose a lot of time especially if Heavy Damage is on. I dont agree with the first and second choices because I mastered both of those corners years ago. They are fairly easy corners followed by a straight that is quickly topped out on... Flugplatz though. That I agree with. That corner is occasionally devastating haha.
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Bergwerk is easy to crash in, and right before a super-long uphill straight. :)

The corner that's voted second right now, Galgenkopf, is worth probably about half the time Berwerk is, and in a lot of cars is as easy as flooring the throttle and steering.
 
I said Galgenkopf.

Main reason is if you are right behind someone and you screw up this corner, you wont overtake them unless you have a more powerful car.
That 2km straight needs you to exit Galgenkopf correctly so you can draft the guy infront and hope to stay infront after you overtake or even make some ground if you are under attack.
 
I'm the only voter for Wehrselfen. For me, getting the speed correct for the sweeping right hander leading into the tight hairpin is difficult to judge. I feel like I can take more speed into the corner, but massive understeer under braking trips me up almost every time. I wind up nursing the throttle in an attempt to not take the hairpin at too great a speed. I think it costs me several seconds a lap.
 
Another thought -- Other than the possible psychological stigma Bergwerk has (probably because of Lauda's fiery crash), I don't think the corner is that difficult. It's a blind corner and usually in the shade, but as long as you don't enter too hot and be certain to hug the apex, it's actually a fun corner to drive through.
 
ccaranna
Another thought -- Other than the possible psychological stigma Bergwerk has (probably because of Lauda's fiery crash), I don't think the corner is that difficult. It's a blind corner and usually in the shade, but as long as you don't enter too hot and be certain to hug the apex, it's actually a fun corner to drive through.
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you are aware that lauda did not crash at bergwerk?
 
All corners matter the same on the 'ring - which is, not much. As many said, if you screw up in a corner you can make up for it later on in the lap, and generally speaking, it's not that tenth of a second you may lose by barely missing the apex that matters.

However, I know that if I can get the Schwedenkreuz right it'll be a nice lap. And if I don't... It usually ends a bit like this.

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Dave Beerman
you are aware that lauda did not crash at bergwerk?
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"On 1 August 1976 during the second lap at the very fast left kink before Bergwerk, Lauda was involved in an accident where his Ferrari swerved off the track, hit an embankment, burst into flames and made contact with Brett Lunger's Surtees-Ford car."

Close enough for me.
 
ccaranna
"On 1 August 1976 during the second lap at the very fast left kink before Bergwerk, Lauda was involved in an accident where his Ferrari swerved off the track, hit an embankment, burst into flames and made contact with Brett Lunger's Surtees-Ford car."

Close enough for me.
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Other than being a completely different corner, you are bang on:lol:
 
ccaranna
Then what's the "very fast left kink" called then? :confused:
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Locals refer to it as Grill Kurve but I don't think that's the official name, I don't think every corner has an official name. It's also known now as the Lauda Left-kink for obvious reasons.
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Johnnypenso
Locals refer to it as Grill Kurve but I don't think that's the official name, I don't think every corner has an official name. It's also known now as the Lauda Left-kink for obvious reasons.
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Johnnypenso
Locals refer to it as Grill Kurve but I don't think that's the official name, I don't think every corner has an official name. It's also known now as the Lauda Left-kink for obvious reasons.
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Not a very important corner. Nearly every car can easy take it flat out... except for a GT86 tc at ride height 70/70 of course. :)
 
Ok how about we call it the Lauda Left Grill Kurve-Kink Bergwerk Complex? :)

So basically the kink had no official name until the incident and Bergwerk was the closest corner to refer. But understood the accident didn't happen in the precise corner.
 
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I would have said Bergwerk just a couple days ago. It's still a very easy curve to overshoot and get sucked into the barrier, but once you know how to take it, it'll treat you well.

Corners I find tricky:

- Karrusell
- Hoheichen
- Aremburg
- Steilstrecke

Probably more I'm forgetting, but those are the ones that make me lose time/grip.
 

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