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^ All of that presupposes knowledge of the comic books (which I have none of). Taking the movie for what it is, I stand by what I wrote. The threats don't feel real to Thor or Hulk, so the movie loses tension.
Did you for one moment think that Thor or Hulk could be done in?
Yes, Loki has no fear of Thor's presence. That wouldn't be the case if he didn't know he could kill Thor when necessary. They are not immortal, but only appear that way to frail humans. That was fairly well covered in Thor. But Loki's weakness is that he is a coward, thus he would never directly challenge Thor in combat. That isn't his skill. The threat always comes out of his planning.
Hulk is the nuclear option. The fear with Hulk isn't that he will die, but that Banner will lose the modicum of control he has. In fact, that played a direct role in the film. Without previous knowledge from comics (but from the movie) we all know only one person is not at risk of death in Hulk's presence.
But let's be honest, do you ever watch a movie with a heroic protagonist and fear they will die? Even when they do die it isn't in a way to stop the happy ending.
By the way, I'm also a huge fan of Superman.
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Your right they made the movie basically to sell for fans and not for any oscars, but I don't see why you can't do both.
Because it is entertainment, not art. And when you go the Batman route you lose the actual character. How do you stay true to these characters and have them go over the same pompous morality argument five times in a movie?
If you wanted a pure comic book movie than it should of been a cartoon
It's been done. Twice. And there is a cartoon series.
If your gonna use real people you mine as well make it relate to what would actually happen in real life.
Oh, come on! Wizard of Oz and Lord of the Rings were awesome. I say that because I have heard your exact argument to explain why Wizard of Oz and Lord of the Rings weren't good. It is a ridiculous statement that destroys entire genres. And what it creates is crap like Masters of the Universe and Battle: Los Angeles.
People get shot and they just fall, in real life there would have been blood everywhere. However I get that would boost the ratings probably to R and sell way less.
We are seriously nit picking this kind if stuff now? Can I point out my Wizard of Oz reference again? Stop watching anything below an R-rating. You must really hate Disney.
I am not a comic book person or really care about these types of movies but after seeing batman and even iron man which were awesome I don't see why they can't do that for everything.
The Batman approach can't work for The Avengers and still be Avengers. And I keep wondering how a film that introduced this universe, but had a major issue where they switched villains mid-film due to the fact that they rewrote the script in the middle of production, gets so much praise but this one gets called mediocre when it is obvious that multiple production teams worked together to create a multi-film continuity.
It makes me feel offended when I see movies that are clearly just exploiting a huge genre to just earn profits and not to create a great film. Like the transformers series.
This isn't exploiting anything. It was meeting a demand. Fans got tired of comic franchises, like Wolverine, being exploited and wanted a true-to-comic representation. Marvel did it. In fact, the risk was so great that they had to create their own production company and use their own money to do it because none of the studios were willing to try it. As Marvel sits on record box office numbers and is looking at almost a half billion in profit already I am sure they are laughing at the studios who preferred to exploit the franchise with crap films.
This movie was not awful tho. Just seemed a little scattered to me. Would of been more interesting to really focus on one problem rather than haveing like a million things happening all the time. Worrying about Loki, worrying about the hulk, worrying about the Loki army people, worrying about captin America and iron man getting along, worrying about what Samuel Jackson is up to etc. I don't see the need for all these problems to be happening in such a short amount of time.
Character dynamics, no! Life is always easier when multiple people get together and just get along with ponies and rainbows and they face a villain with a plan that is more one dimension than his personality. I thought you wanted realism.
Plus the movie was over 2hrs which is a pretty long time to tell one great story.
Yeah, being ten minutes shorter than The Dark Knight. That must be why I like it do much. Seriously, I don't know if you are so determined to validate your opinion that you're grabbing at non-issues or just trolling at this point. If you really think film length is an issue I will be glad to point out all the films that meet your other criteria, won awards, but were longer.
I think it was due to just the whole avengers theme. All these people coming together and learning all this new stuff while having to fight a random bad guy is just too much to cram into one movie.
In other words, this just isn't your kind of movie. That is cool. But don't tell me your kind of movie is the only way a movie should be.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I feel like watching Cabin Boy again, because I love that film.
