Whatever Happened To the Route X Variation?

Discussion in 'Gran Turismo Sport' started by KinLM, Dec 7, 2018.

  1. KinLM

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    I understand that GT Sport is very eSports centered; that it isn’t really a ‘normal’ GT game.

    For that reason, I guess it makes sense that we’ve lost circuits which aren’t great for that kind of racing, such as RouteX.

    However, I cannot let this one thing go. Because it made me so curious, so intrigued, and so amazed that PD could have such lunacy, that I feel as though it’s lack of inclusion in any GT game is a massive shame and missed opportunity to bring back something which would rival the classic “crazy” tracks of old.


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    Will we ever see it’s inclusion, perhaps with a return of Route X? Or will this track (which further photos seem to confirm that it has been modeled in great detail throughout) be left to our imagination forever?
     
  2. banckzy

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    I have never seen that before as I never played the gran turismo that had that track but looking at it, I’d say it looks like something that would be better suited to wipeout.
     
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  3. SlipZtrEm

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    The death of intentionally vague thread titles?
     
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  4. KinLM

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    My apologies. It has been amended.
     
  5. Slapped

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    Speaking as an experienced WipEout veteran then yeah I'd be totally up for that track. However in GT not so much.
     
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  6. StealthVel

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    I saw a post about this from a while back on GTPlanet earlier today, and now this is posted? :eek:
    I never knew about this track layout, looks quite cool. Has it ever been mentioned by Polyphony or shown in any trailers?
     
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  7. usmaan

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    What game was that I'm, never seen it before
     
  8. Hoopzah

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    It was in GT5.. I bought it.
    Useless now lol

    Edit: I bought "special stage route x" as some DLC pack that was available. Not to be confused with the route X variation posted above.. I obviously confused the two :p
     
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  9. Famine

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    No, it wasn't.
     
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  10. Hoopzah

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    Correct
     
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  11. CLowndes888

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    It looks as though PD shelved the idea ages ago, which is a shame because the experience would've been incredible!
     
  12. TonyJZX

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    I'm not shooting for the moon... Route 7 would be fine with me.
     
  13. XSquareStickIt

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    I can't really answer that question, and I doubt anyone other than PD themselves and Kaz can. What I want to know is...

    WHAT MADNESS IS THIS I WANT THIS IN MY GAME

    Could you please link us to where you found these screenshots? Would be much appreciated, thanks!
     
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  14. G.T.Ace

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    Wasn't it possible to spot these locations through glitches?
    I might remember wrong though...
     
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    This would be more appropriate for the Gran Turismo 5 or 6 boards. In any case, it's not playable. The course data is removed in GT6, but leftovers of the course's assets remain. It's unknown whether or not the data is in GT5 still. I've heard rumors floating about that the geometry of this layout can be seen by breaking out of Special Stage Route X at a particular spot, but it has no collision; said people who've posted said rumor have not provided any proof, though.

    The course itself was seen throughout several promo videos, though, with the most notable one being the Acura NSX Concept video:
     
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    Could be useful for the Tomahawk and Red Bull cars. As an FIA venue, which other cars could be used without hitting the fuel cut in 1,000 meters?
     
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  17. Pedinhuh

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    Damn, I never knew this was a thing! That tunnel looks ****ing rad!
     
  18. Auditore

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    WHAT IN TARNATION?Only a madman could create a track like this for a racing simulator.

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    It was probably cut because GT's physics engine has never been very good at handling cars going airborne and going past a certain roll angle. Remember GT4 and the older games, where it was impossible to get your car to roll beyond an angle of about 30 degrees? GT5 got rid of this restriction but rolled cars would behave very strangely, and GT Sport isn't much better based on the videos I've seen.
     
  20. Auditore

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    I think most Simracers have a problem with this,probably because the simulation has some limits and the car getting off the ground is not part of the equation,so everything goes nuts.
     
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    Oh gosh that Acura concept video got me clamouring for Grand Valley and Seattle aga- *cough*


    Would've been sick to see if F1 cars could indeed drive upside down with their insane downforce huh?
     
  22. simsimsheree

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    Which didn't stop PD wasting vast resources and time on a stupid Moon Rover event. Sometimes, everything going nuts is fun!
     
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    It may have been scrapped because the engine in GT5/6 wasn't made to handle surfaces beyond 90º. If you had a chance to try some of the goofy modded tracks in GT6's course maker, things got weird with friction and contact simulation when you one past those limits.

    It seems like PD wanted to use it as a an extreme testing ground (much like the standard Route X was for ultimate top speed tests), but expanding to high-G and aero testing (hence the 360º pipe sections). Who knows if it'll ever see the light of day in a later iteration of GT.
     
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  24. Sander 001

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    Would be really cool to have this but two hurdles:

    1. The physics engine is definitely not up to task

    2. The FIA license may not sanction
     
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  25. Auditore

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    It would be a fun conversation with the FIA guys at least.

    "So we want to put a tunnel in the game that let's you do loops"-Kaz

    "You wot m8?"-F.I.A
     
  26. Draggon

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    I swear I've driven that course in GT6. I don't remember how, perhaps someone made it with the modified course maker.
     
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  28. GBalao888

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    Now that Route X is back in the 1.32 update, I wonder if Polyphony could reconsider this layout again in the future...
     
  29. elston87

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    What a surprise that Special Stage Route X is making a comeback for Gran Turismo Sport. If anything, this has got to be the biggest source of fuel for wild-running imaginations, because the trailer displayed a shot that overviewed the cant section for the unused layout. Whether or not it's playable, Polyphony Digital modeled out that section once again. With GT Sport's increased depth for its Photo Mode, perhaps we can get a closer look at the break points in the oval that separate the two layouts...maybe.

    Can you imagine...?

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    With the addition of this track, there's new hope that this inner part will finally be driveable. It looks like it would be so much fun.
     
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