Whats the point of buying the BRZ?

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Ever since the Subaru BRZ S '12 DLC came out, I've really wanted to buy it as I prefer the Subaru marque as opposed to Toyota (not to mention the front grill on the BRZ looks better). But I thought to myself, "why spend $1 real dollar on a car with almost identical looks and performance as a free GT86/FRS?" Sure, $1 is a small amount of money, but why did PD feel the need to monetize the BRZ while keeping the FRS as a free DLC? It just seems odd. I don't like paid DLCs, although I have a lot of GT5's DLCs like Route X and the car packs, but I still don't understand why PD would make you pay real money for a car that is essentially the same as two other cars in the game which you don't have to pay for with real money. Just an opinion.
 
I don't know the reason why we have to pay for it since we didn't have to for the FR-S as you stated.

The BRZ just has a different wing option, front grille, and lights.

I think the handling differed between the BRZ and the FR-S, but by a little.
 
BlameAuntJemima
I don't know the reason why we have to pay for it since we didn't have to for the FR-S as you stated.

The BRZ just has a different wing option and front grille.

I think the handling differed between the BRZ and the FR-S, but by a little.
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Precisely. If PD cared about its fans, they would have just thrown it into the Subaru dealer within an update. Same goes for the other $0.99 DLC cars (Honda HSV and GT-R N24 which doesnt seem any better than the other GTR N24 cars in GT5)

Also, PD, don't re-release GT5 special editions when it's the same game with a fancy box and text.
 
When you think about it, you didn't actually pay for the 86 GT (which came in the 2.02 update for free) and the FR-S (released for free). Just think of it as when you're going to spend on the BRZ, you actually paid for the whole 86/FR-S/BRZ trio. For PD working on three cars, you only paid for one. It's a Buy 1-Take 2. 💡 makes sense, because most people look at the three cars and think they all look and drive the same. At least PD isn't a 🤬 in that they didn't put price tags on the 86 GT and FR-S.

But yeah, would've been better still if they released the BRZ for free as well.

Also, it should be worth noting that are significant enough differences in performance between the trio, most notable is the handling. The 86 GT is a bit tail-happy, the BRZ is more stable, and the FR-S sits in between.
 
Because it's just one dollar. Seriously. ONE DOLLAR. The dollar is the new penny. Spending 1 single dollar on something is just like... whatever.

Besides. They made 3 cars, and they're only asking you to pay for one of them. Would you prefer that instead none of them were free and you had to pay 33 cents each?
 
Broseph
Because it's just one dollar. Seriously. ONE DOLLAR. The dollar is the new penny. Spending 1 single dollar on something is just like... whatever.

Besides. They made 3 cars, and they're only asking you to pay for one of them. Would you prefer that instead none of them were free and you had to pay 33 cents each?
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Beacause;
You paid 1 dollar for 1 car.
While you paid 60 dollars (or something) for 1,000 dollars, 50+ tracks, tuning options, online and more.

With that equation some DLC's are not worth it.
 
We have to pay for it because the car is special. Like they would put wings, carbon fibre, decals etc... which makes it look better.
 
What makes it worth it is up to you.
What does a dollar mean to you?

To me, it's not even a packet of chips, it's practically worthless.

Sure, if I put that dollar with other dollars I shall have many dollars, but a single dollar is meaningless and I'm willing to part with it, especially if it supports PD who have been with me since I was in kindergarden.

It's a dollar for a car, if you don't like the car don't pay the dollar.
Why do we have to justify your purchasing decisions to you?

As for "If they cared about their fans" BS. They're a company, companies have bills.

They have lease/maintenance, power bills, water bills, salary, licensing fees etc etc.
They need the money, if they just gave away stuff for free all the time they'd go out of business.

If you don't like them wanting money for their hard work, hours of mental labour behind a computer screen painstakingly getting the model "just right". Don't pay them for it. Simples.
 
There wasn't DLC in the PS1 and PS2 days so this 1 dollar DLC is still unecorsery.
 
Production costs on the PS1 and 2 aren't even slightly comparable to current gen production costs >_>
 
I like DLCs but from my equation 1 dollar for one is bad.

You people probaly get money with a flick of your wrist, other people work hard for money and even 50 cents is worth something.
 
Don't buy it then.
And by your equation, all DLC is bad and polyphony are horrible for expecting money for their work because it's "not the same value as the original product"

Also I'd appreciate it if you refrain from making assumptions about my job as you know nothing about the work I do for my pay cheques.
 
UrieHusky
Don't buy it then.
And by your equation, all DLC is bad and polyphony are horrible for expecting money for their work because it's "not the same value as the original product"

Also I'd appreciate it if you refrain from making assumptions about my job as you know nothing about the work I do for my pay cheques.
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Sorry about my assumption. hope you forgive :).

Also PD do good work, it is just the price is a little high for me to buy it (although I give in and buy it anyway for some reason).
 
The price is nothing for the hours of work it would of taken to model that car.

Put yourself into the shoes the people who work on vehicle models, would you like to see your company gain income so your job is secure, or would you like to give it away for free for "goodwill" when there's already so much free content added to the game post release.

I'd also say that the 1 dollar DLC is better value than the carpacks 👍
Especially since it lets you pick and choose exactly what cars you'd like.
 
I do agree with the fact that the 1 dollar DLC are better then the packs :).
 
CallmeDan
Ever since the Subaru BRZ S '12 DLC came out, I've really wanted to buy it as I prefer the Subaru marque as opposed to Toyota (not to mention the front grill on the BRZ looks better). But I thought to myself, "why spend $1 real dollar on a car with almost identical looks and performance as a free GT86/FRS?" Sure, $1 is a small amount of money, but why did PD feel the need to monetize the BRZ while keeping the FRS as a free DLC? It just seems odd. I don't like paid DLCs, although I have a lot of GT5's DLCs like Route X and the car packs, but I still don't understand why PD would make you pay real money for a car that is essentially the same as two other cars in the game which you don't have to pay for with real money. Just an opinion.
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You bought the car packs which simply contain more minis/more gt-r's a premium LMP and more VW's that are already in the game, and now you're complaining about paying a dollar for a car that is pretty similar to two other cars in the game?

Hypocrisy if you ask me.

But I bought it, and I prefer it to the other two because as people have said, it handles better and has better wing options.

As for the Weider - hands down worth every penny in my opinion. But the 2012 N24, worthless. That was a waste of money, it handles like 🤬 and one tuner has given a tune for it, but even that's not perfect. And I have no reason to use it over the other 2011 version, which handles better, has more power and less weight etc.

Some DLC's are worth the money, others just aren't. It's a question of whether you will make use of it though, that's your only justification of whether or not it's worth a dollar (but as others have said, a dollar is the new cent, it's nothing really if you can afford to buy a PS3 game, you can afford the extras to add more content). I mean I only paid £10 (about $20) for the game, so I don't mind paying extra for DLC that I will use.
 
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The thing about the N24 2012 is that it's a road car. Where as the 2011 was a fully fledged race car 👍
 
UrieHusky
The thing about the N24 2012 is that it's a road car. Where as the 2011 was a fully fledged race car 👍
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Yeah the 2012 comes with Sports tyres and the 2011 with racing tyres.

No that's wrong (the scored out bit, not what you said Urie), and it makes no sense - the 2012 comes with Racing Hard tyres stock, but the 2011 comes with Sports Softs stock.
 
It's on racing tyres because of the N24 race, but the 2012 GTR was designed to just be a road car with some race modifications so that it would last the 24 hours. That's literally it no weight reduction or anything 👍

That's why it handles worse than the 2011, because it's basically just a tuned road car with racing tyres bolted on.
 
RESHIRAM5
There wasn't DLC in the PS1 and PS2 days so this 1 dollar DLC is still unecorsery.
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I don't think anyone has claimed that it's necessary. Then again, in the PS1 and PS2 days, we would still be playing spec 1 of the game (or maybe a small subset would be playing spec 2), and we wouldn't even have the option of buying the BRZ, it just wouldn't be in the game.
 
UrieHusky
It's on racing tyres because of the N24 race, but the 2012 GTR was designed to just be a road car with some race modifications so that it would last the 24 hours. That's literally it no weight reduction or anything 👍

That's why it handles worse than the 2011, because it's basically just a tuned road car with racing tyres bolted on.
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Ohhhh, thank you Urie, I did not know that. It just confounds the fact that it's 🤬 :lol:
 
I wanted the vw scirocco and the bug, but not the other cars so I did not buy that DLC.

I did however buy the subaru brz because it was only $1. Not that I have used it much.
 
iainflo made a lot of sense with his post :) but in australia they charge you an extra 75c.
 
iainoflo85
Ohhhh, thank you Urie, I did not know that. It just confounds the fact that it's 🤬 :lol:
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It's only rubbish if you compare it to race cars.
If you compare it to cars in its class (IE tuned road cars) it's really rather good :) at least I think so.
 
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RESHIRAM5
There wasn't DLC in the PS1 and PS2 days so this 1 dollar DLC is still unecorsery.
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There wasn't DLC in PS1/PS2 days because it was not possible, not because it was unnecessary or unwanted. "One dollar DLC" did not exist because the company was not spending money to create new content for already released games. If at that time they DID have the ability to create new content for already released games, you can rest assured that people would have wanted them to do so. But since that requires the developer to spend more money on development costs, salaries, licensing, etc., that content would most likely not have been free, or at least completely free. At which point consumers would start whining about it. Just like you see in this topic.

Consumers in general want more. They always want more. No matter how much they are given, it is never enough. But they don't want to have to pay for it.

Developers want money. That's their whole point for being in business in the first place. But to get that money, they know they have to put in work to get it. People will not just hand them money for nothing.

One is a realistic ideal, while the other is not.
 
If one dollar is a big deal, then don't buy it. Considering how often new DLC is released, you're not exactly going to spend a fortune.
 
What about how the XL edition doesn't give you all the DLC? I bought it recently and still feel like I'm missing out on a few good cars. I thought XL editions are supposed to cover everything or at least make you feel special!!!
 
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What about how the XL edition doesn't give you all the DLC? I bought it recently and still feel like I'm missing out on a few good cars. I thought XL editions are supposed to cover everything or at least make you feel special!!!
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That's because GT XL was launched before other DLC's even existed.

And if you want to feel special, you should've bought the Collectors Edition.
 
I think it's nice to have all three, just a shame the Subaru can't be turbocharged given the company's heritage. Love the BRZ wing option though.
 
In my opinion, I think PD would've been better off releasing all three cars (FR-S,BRZ,GT86) as $1 DLC. I think people would've felt it was more value for money to get all three for $1 and possibly sold more of the DLC. Although in saying that, given I wasn't too fussed about buying the BRZ, I'm quite glad they didn't because I've loved driving the 86.
 

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