What's your best 400m and Top Speed?

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ok, i'm sorry, I'll be a little bit more open minded in the future(btw i'm 20). But I'm more an old-school fan, I like the older cars most not the newer stuff like NOS
I hope you can't use it in races, and if you can, i will not use it.
Could someone post some 400M times of the old beetle or karmann ghia (they can do it in 10 sec in real life)
http://www.hpcoatings.com/fastest_vw.htm
 
Johnhannibal
ok, i'm sorry, I'll be a little bit more open minded in the future(btw i'm 20). But I'm more an old-school fan, I like the older cars most not the newer stuff like NOS
I hope you can't use it in races, and if you can, i will not use it.
Could someone post some 400M times of the old beetle or karmann ghia (they can do it in 10 sec in real life)
http://www.hpcoatings.com/fastest_vw.htm

you seem to think that nitrous or as you like to call it "NOS" is something new. something that only started being used in racing just recently. you say you are a fan of old school cars but did you forget about who really popularized the use of nitrous in racing? anyway Famine took the words right out of my mouth. 👍 on that. everyone quit crying about the nitrous and the wings and step out of your own FATF world
 
I think the problem most people will have with N02 in GT4 is it's use in the road races. I don't know of a sanctioning body out there that has not categorically banned it's use in sanctioned road races. Real Le Mans cars don't use N02, therefore to allow it in a race like the 24 enduro at Le Sarthe in the game is unrealistic.

I'm all about using it in any drag competitions, or in any event that is supposed to simulate a race where it is allowed. If the races in NYC were supposed to be midnight runs through Mahattan by a club of street racers (A little too NFSU for me but it could be fun I suppose) then yeah by all means I'll use it, but in a sanctioned event at real track it's a bit unrealistic.

Then again I suppose in a 24 hour race a few shots of N02 aren't going to make a huge difference anyway, now if you could refill it by drafting another car, well that would just be lame...


Just my $.02
 
Don't flame me or anything, but I understand the Nitrous and the wings and all, but putting wings on FF cars seems a little stupid, no? I mean the power, the steering is all in the front, so what good does a wing do there? Unless you can put it on the hood (which would be a bit amusing). I'm not a big car nut, so I don't know if a wing on an FF makes any sense. I don't think it would, but I really don't know.

As long as they don't put those spinner wheels on the game, I hate those things :crazy: . Things that improve the performance of a car is all well and good, it just annoys me when someone gets a used Civic, then puts $30,000 or body work and wings and wheel and crap like that :ouch: . I mean, hell, they could've gotten a Corvette or something instead.
 
smeardawg
As long as they don't put those spinner wheels on the game, I hate those things :crazy: . Things that improve the performance of a car is all well and good, it just annoys me when someone gets a used Civic, then puts $30,000 or body work and wings and wheel and crap like that :ouch: . I mean, hell, they could've gotten a Corvette or something instead.

Then you are missing the whole point of putting $30k into a civic :indiff:
 
speaking of top speed...if anyone remembers the wheelie trick that you could do in GT3 where you could go 1000+MPH...is that trick possible still on GT4?
 
smeardawg
Don't flame me or anything, but I understand the Nitrous and the wings and all, but putting wings on FF cars seems a little stupid, no? I mean the power, the steering is all in the front, so what good does a wing do there? Unless you can put it on the hood (which would be a bit amusing). I'm not a big car nut, so I don't know if a wing on an FF makes any sense. I don't think it would, but I really don't know.

As long as they don't put those spinner wheels on the game, I hate those things :crazy: . Things that improve the performance of a car is all well and good, it just annoys me when someone gets a used Civic, then puts $30,000 or body work and wings and wheel and crap like that :ouch: . I mean, hell, they could've gotten a Corvette or something instead.

oh great the good ol "wings on FF cars" debate. yeah all the little civics you see running around in the streets with wings is stupid because they arent meant for performance. however hmm lets ask real time racing why they have a wing on their rsx?stupid? hardly. putting wings on FF cars does help it keep stable at high speeds.
 

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In GT4 it IS called NOS...I don't know why but it is, i saw a screen shot by Maskrider for the tuning options and sure enough there was a nitrous bottle that said "NOS."

18 MORE DAYS since 2-04-05 FOR NA release :) :) :)
 
Possibly because, like almost every other advertising company in the game, they've paid to have their name in a Gran Turismo game...
 
the reason you put wings on the back of FF cars is the same reason there are spoilers on the front on RR or FR cars, to create downforce.
 
XVII
speaking of top speed...if anyone remembers the wheelie trick that you could do in GT3 where you could go 1000+MPH...is that trick possible still on GT4?

...is this possible...anyone?????
 
I have managed 7.441sec in the 400m in a Suzuki Escudo and 517.54km/h in the Minolta Toyota racer. Both of them using N20.

You can use N20 in all races and in virtually all cars ( except the formula ) but your opponents don´t use it and neither does the AI contolling your car in spec-B.
 
miura909
I have managed 7.441sec in the 400m in a Suzuki Escudo and 517.54km/h in the Minolta Toyota racer. Both of them using N20.

You can use N20 in all races and in virtually all cars ( except the formula ) but your opponents don´t use it and neither does the AI contolling your car in spec-B.
Thanks for the info
 
i dont understand why people dont want nos in game, if they dont like it, then dont use it like other people say. Nos is basicly for dragraces tho.

If nos will be avalible online, then i agree that it is a bad point just like NFSu series. But in dragracing mode its ok, nos its "almost" the same as petrol but its burns/explode much faster when its combined with air and petrol.

Tho i wont use nos in GT4 on normals tracks, exept high speed runs or drag..
 
HRT427c
the reason you put wings on the back of FF cars is the same reason there are spoilers on the front on RR or FR cars, to create downforce.

*collapses into a singularity*

Explain to the whole world why it is you want to increase downforce (thus weight) on the back, non driving wheels at the expense of the weight on the front, driving wheels.


HRT427c
i dont understand why people dont want nos in game, if they dont like it, then dont use it like other people say. Nos is basicly for dragraces tho.

If nos will be avalible online, then i agree that it is a bad point just like NFSu series. But in dragracing mode its ok, nos its "almost" the same as petrol but its burns/explode much faster when its combined with air and petrol.

Tho i wont use nos in GT4 on normals tracks, exept high speed runs or drag..

Then you will be last.

I don't understand this mindset of "oh, I won't use NOS on tracks". Why not? It's just another tuning part to increase power - only when you WANT it increasing. A turbocharger increases power - but only when it's spooling. Will you not be using these on tracks either, since they aren't used in F1 and are thus only for road cars?

Precisely.
 
iam not too bothered by nos, like it or not it is now an established tuning method. its like saying using turbos is cheating the only difference is that nos eventually runs out.

now if i understand correctly wings in gt4 allows downforce at both front and rear of the car, this will help many of the road cars in the game.
 
super supra
i dont understand why people dont want nos in game, if they dont like it, then dont use it like other people say. Nos is basicly for dragraces tho.

If nos will be avalible online, then i agree that it is a bad point just like NFSu series. But in dragracing mode its ok, nos its "almost" the same as petrol but its burns/explode much faster when its combined with air and petrol.

Tho i wont use nos in GT4 on normals tracks, exept high speed runs or drag..
Absolute in agreement with you on NOS. Very funny sig 👍
 
super supra
i dont understand why people dont want nos in game, if they dont like it, then dont use it like other people say. Nos is basicly for dragraces tho.

If nos will be avalible online, then i agree that it is a bad point just like NFSu series. But in dragracing mode its ok, nos its "almost" the same as petrol but its burns/explode much faster when its combined with air and petrol.

Tho i wont use nos in GT4 on normals tracks, exept high speed runs or drag..
OK i see your point
 
miura909
I have managed 7.441sec in the 400m in a Suzuki Escudo and 517.54km/h in the Minolta Toyota racer. Both of them using N20.

You can use N20 in all races and in virtually all cars ( except the formula ) but your opponents don´t use it and neither does the AI contolling your car in spec-B.


WOW! Looks like you've got the record at the moment. Not sure whether that other dude got "7.1 from a Ruf GT2 Turbo"...

Looks like I'll have to get my hands on the Escudo. Also the Minolta Toyota! I was looking at that on the prize list and didn't even think about doing it yet... looks like it just made the top of my to-do list :)
 
For all of you that have GT4 already:
Driving the same car in GT3 and GT4, there is a difference in acceleration time (0-400) and max speed?
 
miura909
I have managed 7.441sec in the 400m in a Suzuki Escudo and 517.54km/h in the Minolta Toyota racer. Both of them using N20.

You can use N20 in all races and in virtually all cars ( except the formula ) but your opponents don´t use it and neither does the AI contolling your car in spec-B.



wow!! over 500km/h! can you post a picture? is minolta the fastest car?
 

Explain to the whole world why it is you want to increase downforce (thus weight) on the back, non driving wheels at the expense of the weight on the front, driving wheels.




That's my point. Putting more downforce and/or weight on wheels just along for the ride doesn't make sense to me. Stablize, I'm sure it does, but I would think the gain isn't as great as the loss in top speed or acceleration. If you could increase the downforce in the front, to get the power to the ground, as they say, would be better than forcing non-driving wheels to the ground.

I do realize this debate does not belong in here. I also realize it's a matter of preference, some people like wings on FF, some don't, some like NOS (or whatever), some don't.

Also, just a question, not a flame or anything, doesn't the RSX (I think that was the attached picture, I don't have the post in front of me) need to have a wing to comply with the series rules? I haven't kept up to date on much of that, so I don't know what series it is run in or anything. I mean, for example, if they didn't want a wing, could they not have one, or as stupid as it would be, if they wanted one in the front, could they do that?
 
XVII
XVII
speaking of top speed...if anyone remembers the wheelie trick that you could do in GT3 where you could go 1000+MPH...is that trick possible still on GT4?

...is this possible...anyone?????

*hears birds chirping instead of an answer*
 
putting downforce on the front doesnt get more power to the ground. u dont need more downforce anyway unless ur slipping. and wings on the front arent weird...most of the front fascia on those cars were designed in wind tunnels and produce quite a bit of downforce. some of veilsides aftermarket kits are even tested in wind tunnels from what ive heard. and also, NOS doesnt explode faster. NOS just delivers more oxygen to the cylinder and the nitrogen that breaks off is just a buffer as it is one of the most non reactive elements out there. when u go to wide open throttle (WOT), cars automatically dump way more fuel than they need to to prevent detonation cuz WOT usually means high rpms. high rpms means more heat and varied timing which leads to detonation so more fuel is sent so that it doesnt heat up too quickly in the cylinder. therefore, the combustion is horrible and not all of the power is taken from the fuel according to its heating value, enthalpy, blah blah blah....NOS gives more oxygen (just like forced induction) for combustion and thats all it does. and because of the stability of it, it controls combustion temperatures too. it provides more oxygen and higher air pressures and thats it. thats why it shouldnt be used below a certain rpm unless u have a variable flow nos system and a modified fuel map or u will get extremely lean mixtures and extremely hot combustion chambers. aka, melted pistons, rings, valves, etc...
 
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