WheelSpin
- Thread starter Eric1512
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- Ben_Burr
Don't treat the throttle as an on/of switch, throttle modulation is your friend. That being said, stretching your gearbox (lower numbers) and lower rear spring rates (lets the car squat, thus increasing grip) will help tame it if additional modulation doesn't seem possible.
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- Fastfox400
Longer gears to keep in the lower rpm range. Use a low rpm turbo, or stay all motor. What car is it? RX8 i presume.
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- Pennsylvania
- Redsuns_Eric_DRP
Na sc300. I just about got it now.
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- San Diego, CA
- fcpmarcus
C63, Mustang, SC300. These car have been suchhhhhh a pain to tune because of the wheel spin lol. I've constantly went back to these car to try out many experimental tunes and test out my theories, but they always end in no success.
But for the ones that I was able to tune, figuring out the torque curve and stretching out certain gears does help. Also, alot of torque isn't always a good thing. Try limiting power so the torque curve kinda looks like this: /\
I hope that kinda makes sense hahaha
Edit: Let me reiterate that haha. Try to have your car make alot of torque midway through your RPM range, and don't have as much towards redline. That way you can have power to break traction when shifting gears, but only have the minimum amount of torque to keep the car drifting around redline.
But for the ones that I was able to tune, figuring out the torque curve and stretching out certain gears does help. Also, alot of torque isn't always a good thing. Try limiting power so the torque curve kinda looks like this: /\
I hope that kinda makes sense hahaha
Edit: Let me reiterate that haha. Try to have your car make alot of torque midway through your RPM range, and don't have as much towards redline. That way you can have power to break traction when shifting gears, but only have the minimum amount of torque to keep the car drifting around redline.
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- DGambino1
- DGambino1
I can vouch for Marc's list... We have all tried to get the C63 to be a drift car but its wheel spin is uncontrollable... We have found that wheel users have a better time with the car but not by much... One tap on the C63's butt during a drift and it has a mind of its own!
It's too bad because that car is soooo pretty!!!!
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- Fastfox400
I have found the C63 to be somewhat easy to tune. N/A is easy to stop wheel spin.
It is pretty but turbo'd its a nitemare.I can vouch for Marc's list... We have all tried to get the C63 to be a drift car but its wheel spin is uncontrollable... We have found that wheel users have a better time with the car but not by much... One tap on the C63's butt during a drift and it has a mind of its own!
It's too bad because that car is soooo pretty!!!!
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- DGambino1
- DGambino1
The C63 lacks that needed "umph" when its N/A... I need my cars to be fast!! I can't stand "pedestrian" drifting...
You are right though it is better without the extra "juice" but then the ISF and M5 blow it out of the water as far as sedans go...
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- Fastfox400
The C63 lacks that needed "umph" when its N/A... I need my cars to be fast!! I can't stand "pedestrian" drifting...
You are right though it is better without the extra "juice" but then the ISF and M5 blow it out of the water as far as sedans go...
My C63 is angle based yet still quick enough to maintain a decent pace. I tune for angle not speed. But I have retired it, I've focused my efforts in to getting my ISF ready. But it also lacks the low end grunt that i like. So I'm trying to get my 6 speed Sergio tuned right.
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- Porto Alegre
- LazyLiquid
SC300 or Chaser (the older one). Both can provide endless headaches.
I just had to quit on mine. Maybe after this thread will go back to my Chaser, working out from the scratch.
I just had to quit on mine. Maybe after this thread will go back to my Chaser, working out from the scratch.
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- blueninjacivic
ive been playing with setups for my c63 and it just loves getting angle but the wheels need to be spinning which is why i like to have the diff fully locked
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- Porto Alegre
- LazyLiquid
We are talking about the Lexus SC300 OR the Toyota SOARER. I really don´t know why you´re comming here to say that S-Chassis are good cars to tune and drift. Did i lost something?
Backing on topics... specificaly about the SC300... its a really weird car, 65/35 weight balance. Im all against ugly wings in my cars, but this one deserves it. Also, i had to put some serious weight on rear to try to make it at least 60/40. Springs, dampers, anti-roll and toe also had been reworked to make the car not overspin at higher angles.
So now im in the midle of the way between have a nasty and tricky car or have a slow and heavy car.
EDIT: Everytime i wrote "Chaser", i wanted to say "Soarer".
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- Fastfox400
From what I have found with my dealings with the SC300 is, no matter what you do it will always have a tone of wheelspin even when I was using CM's. The current setup I'm using on mine is decent enough for my style. It still has some wheel spin but I use the high rpm turbo, and a few mods the help mostly hp then use a power limiter to get the tq to pk in the higher end of the rpms. Then I have tuned the trans where I spend most of my time in 3rd gear rather than 4th which helps eliminate some of the wheel spin.
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- warren4649
lldantell
Firm the rear? It'll actually worsen the wheelspin issue.
The car have to squat in order to get optimal traction (kinda like drag cars). To achieve that a higher front ride height and softer rear springs actually are the things to do.
Also about the "it's not about speed" argument, it's true to an extent, if your car is wheelspin city and get 0 traction to the point of doing moving burnouts in 5th at 70km/h it's not drifting anymore. High level drifting isn't about wheelspin (contrary to what some people believe) but about traction.
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- ishawi
if you using comfort tires,firming the rear give you a little bit more traction.make it stiffer gonna make it looser
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- fcpmarcus
+1
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- Redsuns_Eric_DRP
eddyac
Lol I'm not worried about speed. It's just the sc300/Soarer has way to much wheel spin to even drift properly. But I got mine a lot better by changing the weight balance and lowering the power a bit. And yeah everyone I drift with waits too unless its some random room online. I was drifting with some people last night and it seemed to do fine now. So longer gears, less hp, Better weight balance does the trick.
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- Ben_Burr
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- Fastfox400
Its loose. But alot of the wheel spin can be tuned out of it..
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- maveric-25 / Redsuns-Maveric
Yeah I know, I was getting it to be more stable but I just gave up on the car.
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