Where are BONUS RACES !!!!

[SlyckTires]

Agreed. Sadly this is not the prevailing attitude in an era of paid-DLC "time saver" packs available for many games. These same brats would be more than willing to pay $5 for 5m in-game credits.

It seems that a lot of mobile phone games are totally designed around this concept. You get the game 'free' but then find the credits and levels you need to progress are actually available through purchases, which are set at pennies, so you don't think it's much. But they do add up.
I wound up spending an extra 20 quid on Burnout Paradise addons, but found that once you could buy a pack that gave you everything rather than having to earn it, the online experience was degraded. I can easily see the same thing happening with GT5, which in my experience has always been more for the hardcore gamer rather than the 'casual' who just wants to spend 20 minutes hooning around with their mates on a Friday after the pub.
One of the odd things about the game is the lack off offline - take a look at how many events GT4 had. When I went thru the menus after the first install, I thought the screens would scroll down to reveal another page of events at each level.
When I had to start again (YLOD with the disk stuck in and no way to get at my saved file) I was releived to find the bonus races with their big xp, were going to get me back into the game quickly. However, they should be more like the offline in that certain high xp races should only be available to those on high xp already, to prevent the possibility of levelling up the first or 10 in one go. They should also be tighter on the entry regulations.
One thing that would help is if xp was related to the car you did the race in, i.e the more PP, the less XP. That way it makes it worthwhile to go back and do races again in less capable cars, once your skills have become honed.

Anyay, to sum up; what the OP said.

 

[slayer91]

other things to do you say? why not run the remote b-spec grinder?

Because some of us don't have smart phones or iTouch's to do this on, and doing non-work related on a computer may not be acceptable in our workplace. It also requires your PS3 to be on, and having it on for extended periods of time, believe it or not, does have an effect on your electric bill. And even though people run their PS3's for weeks on end, I don't becasue it does reduce the life of the system and some of us don't have $300 to go buy a new one if it goes bad way before it should.

 

[BlackoutBilly]

That just makes no sense.... The main problem with this is that the casual players shouldnt be as progressed as the full time players....

And what you're saying doesn't make sense. Everyone will do seasonals...there is no question. "Full time" players who are at a higher level than "casual" players will still be at a higher level after doing the seasonals. So really your point doesn't make sense. Every two weeks, PD needs to release the 5 or so bonus races that have an extremely high payout in both credits and XP. It keeps the game interesting and fun. The fact each one requires a specific car to use adds to the fun. People do not like the grind. They shouldn't have to grind the same race over and over. So yes, the seasonal bonus races are a necessity and should definitely continue to be implemented just as they have been. End of story.

 

[Aween]

its good that they make these new events but make them worth doing ... first u bring out races with awesome money then cut them ... STUPID STUPID
bring it back

 

[AmyUD06]

its good that they make these new events but make them worth doing ... first u bring out races with awesome money then cut them ... STUPID STUPID
bring it back

Game launch: "There's not enough to do!"
Introduction of Seasonal Event Bonus Races: "The races are too tough!"
Removal of tuning restrictions for Bonus Races: "The races are too easy!" / "The payouts are too high!"
Introduction of Season Event Challenge Series: "Bring back the super-easy high-payout Bonus Races!"

They can never win.

 

[Aween]

Game launch: "There's not enough to do!"
Introduction of Seasonal Event Bonus Races: "The races are too tough!"
Removal of tuning restrictions for Bonus Races: "The races are too easy!" / "The payouts are too high!"
Introduction of Season Event Challenge Series: "Bring back the super-easy high-payout Bonus Races!"

They can never win.

well they should just keep them
not that hard haha i havent touched a seasonal for about 3 weeks i did the f1 stuff first day and now nothing its rubbish
might stop playing and get on New Vegas fallout

 

[The Stalker]

Game launch: "There's not enough to do!"
Introduction of Seasonal Event Bonus Races: "The races are too tough!"
Removal of tuning restrictions for Bonus Races: "The races are too easy!" / "The payouts are too high!"
Introduction of Season Event Challenge Series: "Bring back the super-easy high-payout Bonus Races!"

They can never win.

So true...

 

[Kakashi Sensai]

What's the point of a game when you complete it after barely playing it? The fact is the game is like how it is because there is a large majority of people who play this game on a very regular basis ... therefore should be suited for them mostly.

Majority Rules.

The only people who care about completing the game are the players who just want trophies. Gran Turismo is about driving. Everyone just wants to drive their favorite cars around the track, but buying the expensive cars takes hours of redundant grinding. If you call driving the same car around the same freaking track for days just to buy ONE car, enjoyable, you have problems. If PD would have just added more events or increased the payouts of races there would be less of a issue. Taking offense to someone because they want high payout races to buy the cars they want so they can actually have fun is just stupid.

People who love redundancy are definitely not the majority.

 

[DrSibo]

Well I must admit it was nice to win the extra xp/credits when the bonus races were put up, the entertainment level of the events is what is really important to me. The World Classic Car Series has been the most fun set of events for a while, and I cannot wait to try the 80s Japanese events... got quite a few cars that I've yet to drive in my collection

 

[eSZee]

What's the point of a game when you complete it after barely playing it? The fact is the game is like how it is because there is a large majority of people who play this game on a very regular basis ... therefore should be suited for them mostly.

Majority Rules.

WHat's the point of a game that has an apparent lack of content? In order to actually complete it, 40/40 A and B, you have to repeat several races several times meaning the leveling system is not in sync with the actual amount of races. There is no denying it but the leveling system is aimed at those who label themselves as 'hardcore".

 

[Zenith]

What's the point of a game when you complete it after barely playing it? The fact is the game is like how it is because there is a large majority of people who play this game on a very regular basis ... therefore should be suited for them mostly.

Majority Rules.

No. Incorrect.

Majority does not rule. There is a difference between grinding and content. That is what he's talking about. And no, you're uninformed opinion is not a "fact", and just because people play a game does not mean that it does not need tweaking and improving and it does certainly not mean that they don't have gripes.

Absolutely ridiculous... 👎

 

[brambos]

80k+ credits for a relatively short, fun race is pretty good by A-spec standards. I feel PD have found a good credit/time/effort balance here.

 

[Tower Turn 13]

I was gonna say I'm considering iRacing to justify possibly buying a G-27 . But with monthly fees you'll fairly quickly pay the price of Gran Turismo, which PD has been gracious enough to turn into an online racing venue with rotating online races and a pretty varied list of ways to play (remote racing, lounge, open rooms, a-spec, b-spec, arcade, etc., etc.). I'd expect this amount of updating for iRacing or something similar but I never expected it in a Playstation game that in years past was simply the game you got out of the box. I like these races, and expect I'll enjoy the Japanese 80s thing once I have time to update.

 

[Cainius]

odds are we are going to see a monthly bonus and weekly seasonals. i like the mix. being in law school i don't have the free time required to gain exp and credits for certain cars that come around unpredictably in the UCD. there is no really efficient way to grind for pure credit. getting 100% complete is more of an achievement than getting all the cars IMHO. but currently getting all the cars requires more game time. shrug, didn't want them all anyway.

i also wouldnt have any issue with a scale payout.


but by all means let's beat this dead horse some more about how good we are at pushing electrons and photons around with our thumbs/hands/feet

:smug:

 

[MJGAIR]

I personally dont mind the Cr and Xp they give out for these races,just wish there was more of them, 10 - 15 races each time, with more laps added too.
Only thing i dont like is these Eifel tracks,although new and "challenging" there utter ****.

 

[Aween]

I personally dont mind the Cr and Xp they give out for these races,just wish there was more of them, 10 - 15 races each time, with more laps added too.
Only thing i dont like is these Eifel tracks,although new and "challenging" there utter ****.

tell me about it i hate the eifel tracks

 

[br1x]

The only people who care about completing the game are the players who just want trophies. Gran Turismo is about driving. Everyone just wants to drive their favorite cars around the track, but buying the expensive cars takes hours of redundant grinding. If you call driving the same car around the same freaking track for days just to buy ONE car, enjoyable, you have problems. If PD would have just added more events or increased the payouts of races there would be less of a issue. Taking offense to someone because they want high payout races to buy the cars they want so they can actually have fun is just stupid.

People who love redundancy are definitely not the majority.

Now that's the point: The A-Spec payouts are way too low. You can't even sell the price-cars you get, you don't even get them a 2. time if you complete a championship. I remember GT4 where i just drove the DTM all the time and sold the CLK-GTR to make money. That was fun and made a lot of money. But now it is either fun OR it makes a lot of money. Just make the damn price cars sellable and reward them everytime you win a championship and everybody will be happy.

 

[Aween]

Now that's the point: The A-Spec payouts are way too low. You can't even sell the price-cars you get, you don't even get them a 2. time if you complete a championship. I remember GT4 where i just drove the DTM all the time and sold the CLK-GTR to make money. That was fun and made a lot of money. But now it is either fun OR it makes a lot of money. Just make the damn price cars sellable and reward them everytime you win a championship and everybody will be happy.

they could totally do that ... i can sell my 6 X1s for 20 mill each ... hopefully
but i see ur point i hate not being about to trade in any GOOD cars a really poorly made part of the game

 

[axletramp]

80k+ credits for a relatively short, fun race is pretty good by A-spec standards. I feel PD have found a good credit/time/effort balance here.

I agree. Although you can't help but get the feeling that had PD given out 80k+ creds rather than 900k+at the beginning there would be less opportunity to moan about it.

Yeah, I'll take 3 million creds for a seasonal but I'm not going to get upset if the rewards are lower. The pay off is close, exciting and new events in cars I wouldn't normally have the chance to run in. And the money isn't really that bad.

Who knows, we may still see the big payouts again and I quite like the unpredictability of not knowing.

 

[snowxdadx3]

80k+ credits for a relatively short, fun race is pretty good by A-spec standards. I feel PD have found a good credit/time/effort balance here.

this ^


I paid $60.00 for a disc. And I'm getting FREE content updates. I'm as happy as Trevor Bayne winning Daytona!... I haven't even tried photomode, or arcade mode, or drifting, or time trials, or hanging out in the museum yet... Just recieved a horn for getting 300 cars-sweet!!! I'm remote racing from work as i type, earning credits all the while. Some of the people who allow me to race their bob's are even sending me thank you gifts!!!! Online racing is a blast too, just have to use my imagination to enjoy this simulator.

 

[br1x]

this ^


I paid $60.00 for a disc. And I'm getting FREE content updates. I'm as happy as Trevor Bayne winning Daytona!... I haven't even tried photomode, or arcade mode, or drifting, or time trials, or hanging out in the museum yet... Just recieved a horn for getting 300 cars-sweet!!! I'm remote racing from work as i type, earning credits all the while. Some of the people who allow me to race their bob's are even sending me thank you gifts!!!! Online racing is a blast too, just have to use my imagination to enjoy this simulator.

You shouldn't be too happy to get free content updates, as the content in A-Spec, which is the main part of the game, is simply not enough. Why didn't they just add the manufacturer-trophy stuff from the last games, where you went to nissan and there were races for 350z, skyline and silvia. 2 or 3 races each and you win a car you can sell (!!!). That would be some free content i would be happy about. Or at least reward us with cars everytime we win a ****ing championship and let us sell them

 

[Tha Darkness]

I believe this was all planned from the start. They knew their wasn't enough A-spec events and intended on doing the seasonals. They also probably planned on switching it up from time time to time rather than just the same time of bonus races over and over. Im sure we will see a return of the high payout races but they can't all pay out that much or we would all be LVL 40's with all the cars already.

 

[axletramp]

I believe this was all planned from the start. They knew their wasn't enough A-spec events and intended on doing the seasonals. They also probably planned on switching it up from time time to time rather than just the same time of bonus races over and over. Im sure we will see a return of the high payout races but they can't all pay out that much or we would all be LVL 40's with all the cars already.

Agreed. I can't help feeling the 'big idea' for GT5 was online racing and the updatable content (Seasonals, etc) and therefore PD's move was to reduce the size of A-Spec. Unfortunately that hasn't gone down completely to everyone's satisfaction and it will always be compared to it's predecessors (like any game). For me the thought that GT6 won't arrive for another 5 years or so means that the updatable content (races, series, cars [?] and tracks [?]) will potentially give GT5 a longer shelf life than even GT4. I think time will tell how well thought out GT5 is and PD may yet be vindicated in many people's opinions.

 

[VINCE__]

To the OP. If you are not to young to remember I have one "catch phrase" from a very smart man. His name is Edward Francis Hutton.

 

[GT911]

I really do enjoyed the bonus races, where you can even go buy your Premium car and race earn the money, the car pay itself and also you tuned to a good level... it is a good business jejeje, I think they will be introduced again soon..

 

[Mike Rotch]

Lets keep it on the straight and narrow chaps. 👍

 

[dogvincent]

Wasn't referring to the Glitch. I was referring to the Bonus Races, they give stupid amounts of XP and Cr. Much better how it is now.

i bet you did them though

 

[dogvincent]

I want more bonus races,if you dont like them you dont have to play them, I'm 95% complete in game and have got to at least 90% on all the gt games,so sorry if I dont want to play for three days to level up,at least the bonus races gave decent xp and money

 

[Aween]

Who didn't do them they were amazing

 

[Gunma36]

You know what guys? I think, and probably I am right, that due to what Japan is after in these days, we can all sit and wait at least a couple of months (hopefully) before we'll see anything new in GT5. Seriously, those people now have their lives to deal with, not a game. Even if Kaz said that they were not harmed in the quake, I'm sure they have to face Japan emergency situation as well as others.
Peace.