Where to buy Logitech Wingman Force 3D's or H-Shifters?

[Convergent]

Planning on getting an H-Shifter, where do you buy them instead of eBay, Amazon, or any online sites...

 

[insert coin]

I have used the Logitech Wingman Force 3D together with the FF-Shifter program. It works, but had a lot of missed / wrong shifts because you do not have shift gates. Because of this you may accidentally shift directly from 3 to 1 for example if you pull the stick a bit to the left when it is in third gear. I could eliminate most of the problems by building the joystick into a box which had the typical shift gates (double H pattern: 5 gears + reverse). I even mounted a real shifter knob onto the joystick . That worked much better, but still found the shifting too 'light' and it did not center very well. I think I still have photos of it somewhere (if you want)...
I sold my DIY shifter box and bought a second hand TH8RS shifter which I highly recommend. Expensive, but it's a VERY good shifter. It has a very realistic feeling. I bought it from a trading website.

 

[Gunstar]

Yep yep. Get a TH8RS off of Amazon, it's the best standalone USB shifter for the buck out there.