Which track do you use to test your setup?
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captainkidd
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Nurburgring, Laguna Seca, and Test Course
Ring for elevation changes and turns (plus it's fun)
Seca for quickness
Test course for top speed and 400 meter
Ring for elevation changes and turns (plus it's fun)
Seca for quickness
Test course for top speed and 400 meter
Having been at the ring hardly any of the drama is caputured because you don't experience the dips and hills. It frankly bores me in the game. I echo what people have been saying about consistency too, i'm not geeky enough to spend a whole day testing little differences when other tracks are perfectly sufficient.
If you want to have the ultimate fast car you can only find out when testing on a circuit where you are consistent, like within a quater of a second..
I personally think Fuji 90's is good, not too long, but has a big straight, that difficult right hand sweeper (plus the one leading up to the last complex that highlights weight transfer issues) and plenty of tight turns.
-Rob
If you want to have the ultimate fast car you can only find out when testing on a circuit where you are consistent, like within a quater of a second..
I personally think Fuji 90's is good, not too long, but has a big straight, that difficult right hand sweeper (plus the one leading up to the last complex that highlights weight transfer issues) and plenty of tight turns.
-Rob
I'd say the Infineon sports car course. I've driven it in real life with a racing school, and have gotten to know it like the back of my hand...the Carousel (turn 6, the downhill left-hander) was quite usefull in getting the high-speed oversteer out of the f1 car with diff tuning (running at 45 accel, 55 decel btw). Infineon combined with Cirque de la Sarthe 1 (for high-speed cornering & braking) gives a great all-around setup.
I use Laguna Seca and sometimes Nur for suspension and downforce tuning. Than 0-1000 for gearing.
Hmmm I'm going to try sears point and some other tracks that you guys have mention.
Hmmm I'm going to try sears point and some other tracks that you guys have mention.
I do all my car testing at Tsukuba because i like to think i know the track well and can be pretty consistent throughout. Although flat, i find it does have a good mix of hairpins and higher speed turns and straights. I also find it's very convenient on the map, very close to home and GT Auto where i'm consistently checking out the wheel of the day specials.
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Sears Point, I like to stick to the local track. =D
tsukuba is a good track. ive kept my garage very small to focus tuning on a few outstanding platforms. this allows me to test them extensively at the ring. i run consistently better laps, so that isnt a problem. at any given time i can have a really good guess of what a certain state of tune is capable of running. sometimes ill make a mistake but it is easy to account for it in total as a 1, 2 or 3 second mistake.
but this isnt really the point, you shouldnt be testing your car only focused on time. base it on how satisfied you are with it taking corners. the ring has a really good first minute or so in. it has some interesting sweepers and switchbacks that you can really see if your car is setup properly or an adjustment needs to be made. so sometimes i may just drive the first few corners then make a slight adjustment until im happy. overall if you can get a car to behave well in a transient state at the ring, it will take any track you throw at it. some tracks you may want to change a few things, but its not too difficult to sort from there.
lately ive also started testing at suzuka. it is a very long and technically varied track. ive learned to love lapping F1 cars here, its only suited i use it for gt4. its also shorter so i can just take a quick lap or two of a car in my garage.
but this isnt really the point, you shouldnt be testing your car only focused on time. base it on how satisfied you are with it taking corners. the ring has a really good first minute or so in. it has some interesting sweepers and switchbacks that you can really see if your car is setup properly or an adjustment needs to be made. so sometimes i may just drive the first few corners then make a slight adjustment until im happy. overall if you can get a car to behave well in a transient state at the ring, it will take any track you throw at it. some tracks you may want to change a few things, but its not too difficult to sort from there.
lately ive also started testing at suzuka. it is a very long and technically varied track. ive learned to love lapping F1 cars here, its only suited i use it for gt4. its also shorter so i can just take a quick lap or two of a car in my garage.
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GT1 & GT2 Grand Valley Speedway.
GT3 Grand Valley Speedway & Midfield.
GT4 Midfield Only, Grand Valley just aint as good as it was.
BTW I find that if i get a really good set up on Midfield, the car will still handle great anywhere else, all i'll have to do is slightly adjust the gearing for longer or shorter tracks.
HTH,
Cheers,
Gram.
GT3 Grand Valley Speedway & Midfield.
GT4 Midfield Only, Grand Valley just aint as good as it was.
BTW I find that if i get a really good set up on Midfield, the car will still handle great anywhere else, all i'll have to do is slightly adjust the gearing for longer or shorter tracks.
HTH,
Cheers,
Gram.
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Trial Mountain since i know it and tsukuba but it depends onwhat car and what setup I want too.
I eather use Laguna Seca or Mid-Field to test and tun all of my track cars. I have about 13 or so cars that I got times for on Mid-field and i did about 10 laps in each to get the best time.
Some of the times with different cars are as follows.....
zzII- 1:02.544
Skyline GTR N1- 1:05.734
M3 CSL- 1:08.227
WRX STI- 1:10.571
Ruf RGT- 1:08.755
Ruf CRT2- 1:05.736
Those are just some of my faviorit cars i track with. Those times are also not using nos and all of the cars are rolling on soft tires.
Some of the times with different cars are as follows.....
zzII- 1:02.544
Skyline GTR N1- 1:05.734
M3 CSL- 1:08.227
WRX STI- 1:10.571
Ruf RGT- 1:08.755
Ruf CRT2- 1:05.736
Those are just some of my faviorit cars i track with. Those times are also not using nos and all of the cars are rolling on soft tires.
for drifting and racing I use new york or tokyo because new york - its a nice track with a long straight to test speed with corners excelent for drifting (and no sand traps) and there quite good for race testing also. and tokyo because it was my gt3 favourite track and its easy to drift wit hnice long corners. a real beginers track its what I started on and its just stuck
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nobody really said anything about improving lap times, just what track you use to test your setup, regardless of what that setup may be 
my ultimate drift track is midfield reverse, it's a perfectly setup drift-fest from start to finish, nice sweeping corners, perfect camber, enough straight in front of each corner to get speed up, plenty of room to feint side to side
mmm i think i might go drift it now
my ultimate drift track is midfield reverse, it's a perfectly setup drift-fest from start to finish, nice sweeping corners, perfect camber, enough straight in front of each corner to get speed up, plenty of room to feint side to side
mmm i think i might go drift it now
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in a fully tuned SL65.
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I am so weird; not one of these posters has mentioned terrain and its effects on traction. In my opinion, it doesn't matter how balanced your suspension is, if when you stumble into the rumble blocks, it throws you into a spin. I use Deep Forest for these reasons:
1. It is short, 2 miles or 1'30 per lap.
2. Almost any car can top end in the opening straight
3. It has the perfect skid pad at the end of the opening straight
4. It has low speed esses (50 to 90mph)
5. it has high speed kinks (100+)
6. It has the best bumpy straight for testing damper/spring adjustments
If you can take a high speed sweeper with reasonable consistency, then you can test your suspension adjustments extremely minutely (within fractions of a second) and its easy. Use the first part of the course to set your basic tune, when it's where you like it, run a lap in practice mode. Now you have a ghost to measure adjustments against. Make a change, take the left sweeper exactly the same as the ghost lap, cross over the very rough terrain with your new adjustment, and as you cross the start/finish your ghost will appear next to you. If you pull away from it, your change gave you more traction, allowing you to hit the start/finish at a higher speed than when you made the ghost. If you get only half a length ahead or behind, it is very obvious, yet half a car length is less than 3/10ths of a second at most racing speeds, can any of us claim to detect that difference through normal testing?
In my opinion, the ghost is the ultimate radar gun for testing minute changes and Deep is the ultimate place to invoke him.
1. It is short, 2 miles or 1'30 per lap.
2. Almost any car can top end in the opening straight
3. It has the perfect skid pad at the end of the opening straight
4. It has low speed esses (50 to 90mph)
5. it has high speed kinks (100+)
6. It has the best bumpy straight for testing damper/spring adjustments
If you can take a high speed sweeper with reasonable consistency, then you can test your suspension adjustments extremely minutely (within fractions of a second) and its easy. Use the first part of the course to set your basic tune, when it's where you like it, run a lap in practice mode. Now you have a ghost to measure adjustments against. Make a change, take the left sweeper exactly the same as the ghost lap, cross over the very rough terrain with your new adjustment, and as you cross the start/finish your ghost will appear next to you. If you pull away from it, your change gave you more traction, allowing you to hit the start/finish at a higher speed than when you made the ghost. If you get only half a length ahead or behind, it is very obvious, yet half a car length is less than 3/10ths of a second at most racing speeds, can any of us claim to detect that difference through normal testing?
In my opinion, the ghost is the ultimate radar gun for testing minute changes and Deep is the ultimate place to invoke him.
