Who got their PS3 bricked by the 2.4 update?

[Scaff]

it bricked mine
40gb pal only 5 months old
wont load any discs but all the stuff on the hd works fine
sony man told me there was nothing they could do but replace it
and that will take a week

btw it was working fine intill the update
it even worked after when i was testing for imgame music
but the problems started when i turned it off then back on later
the joypad wont stay with the system it only works by usb cable
and it just wont load any disc
least i know its not just me as theres posts all over the net about it
on some forums they have even put links up to download 2.40
i strongly suggest NOT downloading ANY copy of it intill sony fix it
if it works for you fine nice one..but if your yet to install it id wait
till they bring out the new version last thing you want is a messed console

I have to be honest smokey I think your PS3 messing up at the same time at the update is more a coincidence than a problem caused by 2.40.

Its of course a total pain that your PS3 has fallen over in this way, but Beerz had exactly the same issue with his PS3 (stopped reading discs) well before 2.40, as have a few others.

All the reported issues with 2.4 revolve around it corrupting the HDD and stopping the XMB loading, with the PS3 stuck on the 'wave' image. That you can get the XMB up seems to indicate a different problem.

Everyone who has got 2.40 loaded and installed OK is reporting that the have no issues with it, the problem appears to have been caused during the download/install, rather than after the fact.

As I say, it sucks that you PS3 has done this and its good that Sony are getting it sorted for you, but personally I don't think 2.40 did this.


Regards

Scaff

 

[Lain]

Im almost certain that Sony will roll out 2.41 in the next week to fix whatever issue there is or could have been lurking in either the download process or the update itself..

I would advise like others that if you havent already got the update and you dont have a dieing urge to play online to hold back till another update comes or some new info from Sony is released. Trust me you will doing yourself a favour!

Sony really need to sort this problem out for future updates also because there are going to be much larger ones to come like Home...

Robin.

While I agree Sony needs to get their act together for future firmware updates, the firmware update for Home, despite being larger, is probably going to be significantly less risky. 2.40 messes with the XMB code, so a slight problem during download/installation could lead to a "bricked" PS3 where the XMB doesn't show up. The Home update will not, as best as I can imagine, have an issue like this which actually makes a person's PS3 unplayable. The worst that could happen is Home doesn't work. Yeah, they have to "add" the Home icon to the XMB, but that's as simple as changing a boolean variable from a 0 to a 1. The Home icon is already coded into the XMB.

Just a little FYI.

@ Scaff, I agree. Definitely not an issue caused by 2.40

 

[wrcsti]

Same simptoms I got on 2.35 with 3 ps3s, so it's not the update. This one is good though, YAY!

 

[a6m5]

I got mine I think couple of nights ago.... I've watched a few DVDs, played few hours of CoD4, no problems. I'm loving it.

daan: I love your avatar. F4's my favorite all-time jet, and I never noticed that before! lol

D-N: Glad to see you change your mind & come back.

 

[LaBounti]

My PS3 no longer connects to th internet . My system hangs when changing network settings. will have to use pc for next update.

 

[Road Rash]

Its interesting to note that I spent several hours playing Warhawk yesterday and not once was I prompted to update my system. Not only that but the night before I had downloaded the booster packs for Warhawk as well. So I actually had five different times that I logged onto the network in the last 48 hours to either download, or play a game online and not once was I prompted to update my system. Has that ever happened to anyone else? I know that everytime in the past when an update was available my console prompts me especially when logging onto the network.

 

[Solid Fro]

The 2.40 firmware was pulled. That's why your PS3 isn't prompting you to update.

 

[Road Rash]

I just went to the Playstation site and noted a news flash of the update having been pulled sometime on the 2nd. In fact the day before I had done my downloading later in the day on the 2nd so it would have been pulled then. I had thought about doing it earlier but the wife had the debit card and I wanted tomake sure it still had enough on it to pay for the downloads otherwise I would have done the downloading way earlier. Who knows, maybe a dodged a major bullet by holding off til later to download. I have some videos of me playing guitar taken when I'm just meesing around so I don't lose the tidbits I come up with. Also, there isn't an option to replace a 60gig NTSC with another 60 gig NTSC system. What new goodies are available in this new update?

Its a wonder that somephotoshop savvy memeber hasn't posted a photo of a PS3 with a brick in it to represent a "bricked" PS3

 

[Digital-Nitrate]

What new goodies are available in this new update?

Here is the thread you are probably looking for:

• Playstation 3 System Update Thread

But to save you some time:

From Wiki's PlayStation 3 System Software listing:

Currently Revealed Features in 2.40

• Settings Changes
  • You can now set the PlayStation 3 system to turn off automatically after updating the system software.
  • [Reassign Controllers] and [Controller Vibration Function] have been added as options under [Accessory Settings].
  
  
• Game Changes
  • You can now access the (XrossMediaBar) screen while playing PlayStation 3 format software.
    • Only some of the XMB functions can be used during gameplay.
    • If you press the PS button for more than two seconds, the screen showing options to quit the game, turn off the system and other settings will be displayed.
    • The XMB screen is not displayed when you are playing PlayStation 2 or PlayStation format software.
    • The XMB screen cannot be displayed when you are playing certain PlayStation 3 format software titles.
  • The procedure for quitting PlayStation 3 format software has been changed.
    (not so much changed as much as you now have multiple ways of quiting a game)
    • The traditional, PS Button method
    • The new in-game XMB Game menu method
    • Switching to another game method
  • You can now collect trophies in games that support the trophy feature.
  
  
• System Changes
  • A new "view mode" has been added to the Playstation Store
  • [Search] has been added as an option in the browse mode menu of the Internet Browser.
  • The [Information] screen has been redesigned and renamed as [Profile].
  • You can now perform an Internet search directly from the XMB screen.
  • You can now see the system clock on the XMB screen. The date and time that were set under [Settings] > [Date and Time] are displayed.
  • When using a keyboard, you can now clear the entire text entry field at once.
  • An icon is now displayed when you press the PS button for an operation that cannot be performed.
  • You can now turn off the PlayStation 3 system from the XMB screen using the [Turn Off System] option.
  • The number of Friends who can be added to a Friends list has been increased from 50 to 100.
    (although supposedly this was slipped into 2.36)
  
  
• Media Changes
  • You can now sort items that are grouped in a folder by month or year using the [Film Date] option.
  • You can now print images from a playlist that was created under (Photo).
  • You can now use a mini-size control panel while playing music.
  • You can now play music content encoded in MP3 Surround format.
    • MP3 Surround can only be played in Linear PCM output.
  • You can now use the [Frame Noise Reduction] and [Block Noise Reduction] settings for video content that is saved on the hard disk or storage media.
  • You can now play upscaled video content that is saved on the hard disk or storage media. When the video content is played, it is upscaled automatically to fit the screen size.
  • Upscaling of Blu-ray Disc (BDAV) video content is now supported
  • For DTS playback on DVD-Video and Blu-ray Disc media, DTS-ES and DTS 96/24 for DVD-Video and DTS-ES Matrix for Blu-ray Discs are now supported.

 

[uk86ze]

strange, mine keeps freezing more often than before

 

[nick09]

strange, mine keeps freezing more often than before

I'm sorry to hear that, my system still works like a charm since I first bought it 9-10 months ago(60GB US).

 

[zx6r2004]

mine seems to freez in ferrari challange when i got to online game plays ok if i just play normal god knows lads been playing bad company for about 4 hours online with out a problem i do not know

 

[H3rmaN]

mine seems to freez in ferrari challange when i got to online game plays ok if i just play normal god knows lads been playing bad company for about 4 hours online with out a problem i do not know

Thats a problem with Ferrari Challenge itself, and not FW 2.40, people with FW 2.36 are also reporting similar problems with online play.

 

[Robin]

I think online play as a whole at the moment is having difficulties what with people playing with different firmwares (2.36 & 2.40) and Sony possibly jigging various aspects of the online system.

Everything was fine before 2.40!

Robin

 

[Jeremy Ricci]

It has nothing to do with different firmware types. Also, Sony is making no modification to their online infrastructure. It would be best if you only posted factual information, so as to avoid confusion. Your 'hunches' are not facts.

 

[Sprite]

Well after a few days using the new update, I can safely say that its has had adverse effects on the PS3. Games have frame rate issues where they didn't before, It's started to freeze up after watching DVD's where they didn't before, and the fan noise has increased ten fold. I just hope Sony give us another update soon.

 

[Solid Fro]

That sounds like a hardware problem, not a software problem.

 

[H3rmaN]

It has nothing to do with different firmware types. Also, Sony is making no modification to their online infrastructure. It would be best if you only posted factual information, so as to avoid confusion. Your 'hunches' are not facts.

Agreed. The only game suffering such major issues with online play is Ferrari Challenge, no complaints for other online games have been made which just shows that its a fault with the game, and not anything else.

 

[G.T]

That sounds like a hardware problem, not a software problem.

Hmm it's probable, if you're saying the fans are blowing much harder, that the hardware is capping itself a little to stop from getting hotter, hense the freezing/slowing down.

Dunno what to suggest other than somehow try and clean out the inside of the console...

 

[Robin]

It has nothing to do with different firmware types. Also, Sony is making no modification to their online infrastructure. It would be best if you only posted factual information, so as to avoid confusion. Your 'hunches' are not facts.

I never claimed anything I said was fact, many of people are having trobule with all aspects of the system whether it be games, movies or online play after the update was applied. Even Sprite listed problems after I posted.

How do you know what Sony have done.... oh right, you don't, so im entitled to voicing my opinion and experiences since the update as much as anyone else, your not going to tell me what I can and cannot post... this is meant to be a discussion.

I have had major issues with online play, connecting to PSN and a slow down on most games including going in an out of XMB, im just glad that it works rather than being bricked.

So I guess my experiences are not a valid as other peoples!

Robin

 

[H3rmaN]

It would be best if you only posted factual information, so as to avoid confusion.

I never claimed anything I said was fact

He was just saying you should only post facts to avoid confusion....

How do you know what Sony have done.... oh right, you don't

How do you know he doesn't work for Sony?? If they were doing maintenance it would be very well known, just like when they did maintenance last week, and every single time Microsoft do maintenance on XBOX LIVE. Also I dont have a problem with PSN, and non of my mates do either. However they do have problems with Ferrari Challenge which makes it kind of obvious that its not the PSN as a whole, but something to do with that specific game.

Oh, and some of them are running 2.40, while others are running 2.36

I have had major issues with online play, connecting to PSN and a slow down on most games including going in an out of XMB, im just glad that it works rather than being bricked.

You sure thats a problem with the FW and not just your router? I had a problem with getting signed out every 2 - 3 minutes AGES ago (as in last year) and it ended up being uTorrent running on my PC conflicting with the PS3 (probably trying to use the same ports). Disabling it fixed my problem, that was after about 2 months of trying every single configuration I could change on my router.

Like I said above, me, my mates, and people on other forums are not experiencing issues. So that kind of indicates the problem is at your end. Otherwise everyone would have problems if it was the PSN at fault.

 

[Jeremy Ricci]

I never claimed anything I said was fact, many of people are having trobule with all aspects of the system whether it be games, movies or online play after the update was applied. Even Sprite listed problems after I posted.

How do you know what Sony have done.... oh right, you don't, so im entitled to voicing my opinion and experiences since the update as much as anyone else, your not going to tell me what I can and cannot post... this is meant to be a discussion.

I have had major issues with online play, connecting to PSN and a slow down on most games including going in an out of XMB, im just glad that it works rather than being bricked.

So I guess my experiences are not a valid as other peoples!

Robin

No, that is not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is you should avoid posting information that is formulated from guess work.

Also, I do know what Sony did to the PSN roughly a week ago, and that was adding more Client side servers for log in. The reason they take it down is to image all data on the current servers to the new servers. This prevents the loss of synchronization among them.

Aside from adding more servers to handle more online activity (which 2.4 has certainly increased, as my friends list is now more active than it was prior to) they have made no modification to the Playstation network.

It also has nothing to do with different systems running different firmware types.

Sprite You might want to be cautious. My PS3 had a lot of the same issues right before it kicked the bucket. Luckily it didn't take much time at all for me to get a replacement. Are you still under warranty?

 

[zx6r2004]

Thats a problem with Ferrari Challenge itself, and not FW 2.40, people with FW 2.36 are also reporting similar problems with online play.

yes i see that now my m8 did not update and is crashed out on him all so Prob have to wait for a update on the game

 

[Sprite]

JR I doubt it, I will just have to buy a new one if it goes but it plays games and every thing fine but its just some issues, a friend is having the same experience with his after the updates too so it seems a little fishy, I really think its down to the software rather than hardware.

In fact I'm playing Ferrari challenge at the moment and the fan has gone quiet again so I have no idea what is going on, the fan kicks in when idling on the XMB then goes silent again during gameplay.

 

[H3rmaN]

JR I doubt it, I will just have to buy a new one if it goes but it plays games and every thing fine but its just some issues, a friend is having the same experience with his after the updates too so it seems a little fishy, I really think its down to the software rather than hardware.

In fact I'm playing Ferrari challenge at the moment and the fan has gone quiet again so I have no idea what is going on, the fan kicks in when idling on the XMB then goes silent again during gameplay.

Strange! You would think it would be the other way round!

Try doing a hard reset, and see if that helps.

http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2265/ps3_how_to_factory_hard_reset

 

[Jeremy Ricci]

JR I doubt it, I will just have to buy a new one if it goes but it plays games and every thing fine but its just some issues, a friend is having the same experience with his after the updates too so it seems a little fishy, I really think its down to the software rather than hardware.

In fact I'm playing Ferrari challenge at the moment and the fan has gone quiet again so I have no idea what is going on, the fan kicks in when idling on the XMB then goes silent again during gameplay.

Well, the fan symptoms were some of the same that I had when my PS3 kicked the bucket, but everything else...I don't know

I've only had issues with Oblivion on PS3 after the 2.4 update, but I'm still trying to pin point the problem. Personally I think it's a bad install, but it has yet to be seen.

 

[Sprite]

Well games wise its effected Everybody's Golf and FC but I haven't run any other games apart from Buzz and that seems fine.

H3rmaN cheers for the link, It maybe a last resort, unless Sony release an update or some sort of statement telling us exactly what has gone on. I think if it was just a basic installation problem Sony wouldn't have replaced the bricked PS3's and wouldn't have pulled the update from the net. Who knows I guess I will just have to wait and see.

 

[tiequinn]

I know it's easy and convenient to blame all kinds of problems on the firmware update. I got a degree in computer science. Firmware basically is a set of instructions and operation routine for the XMB interface. Firmware shouldn't have any authority beyond the XMB due to security and stability concerns. (That's why Sony added the PS button because it serves as your ONLY bridge from the game software or DVD playback to XMB) Also I've been searching the internet with much interest about the firmware problem. Majority of people says it happens during the install or the XMB itself fails during or after the install (I.E courrpt? incorrect set of instuctions for a specific set of hardware?Messed up registry?) Releasing mutiple SKUs is starting to bite Sony in the ass. Sony couldn't decide if they wanted PS2 hardware built in or have it software emulated. (Hell they even decide not to include software emulation on the newer SKUs) My hunch tells me that mutiple SKUs is the straw that is breaking the camel's back. If Sony had not pulled the firmware off the server, I'm pretty sure I could build a house on all those bricked PS3 (wouldn't that be cool?)

Any inputs or comments?

 

[Sprite]

I know it's easy and convenient to blame all kinds of problems on the firmware update. I got a degree in computer science. Firmware basically is a set of instructions and operation routine for the XMB interface. Firmware shouldn't have any authority beyond the XMB due to security and stability concerns. (That's why Sony added the PS button because it serves as your ONLY bridge from the game software or DVD playback to XMB) Also I've been searching the internet with much interest about the firmware problem. Majority of people says it happens during the install or the XMB itself fails during or after the install (I.E courrpt? incorrect set of instuctions for a specific set of hardware?Messed up registry?) Releasing mutiple SKUs is starting to bite Sony in the ass. Sony couldn't decide if they wanted PS2 hardware built in or have it software emulated. (Hell they even decide not to include software emulation on the newer SKUs) My hunch tells me that mutiple SKUs is the straw that is breaking the camel's back. If Sony had not pulled the firmware off the server, I'm pretty sure I could build a house on all those bricked PS3 (wouldn't that be cool?)

Any inputs or comments?

I really don't know buddy. It's just as soon as I've updated the firmware its gone like this. It maybe just coincidence, but I've never had any kind of a major problem before hand (apart from bluetooth dropping out twice).

I'm not sure how Sony use the software built into the PS3 and if the Firmware is just the XMB and all things tied to it aka PSN store, but there has to be some more underlying software that regulates things like fan speed and data to and from the HDD, call me ignorant but I thought that was what the firmware did, because how would they be able to add extra features to the PS3 without the firmware having access to these things.

But if I'm totally honest I really don't care what the problem is and what's causing it, if its a temporary thing (like the Bluetooth problem) or if it is related to the firmware, because it seems a little odd that you have to agree to a end user agreement before installing the firmware and it clearly stated that if it damages the PS3 Sony cant be held responsible, but for Sony to hold up their hands and pull the software and replace PS3's that have been taken out by this firmware update, then clearly they think it could be their fault and are covering their backs from defective software lawsuits?

6. WARRANTY DISCLAIMER AND LIMITATION OF LIABILITY
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As long as Sony sort it out and let their users know exactly what has gone wrong and what they have done to fix it I would be happy, granted my PS3 hasn't chucked in it's towel yet but I'm more than a little concerned for It's well being at the moment.

 

[H3rmaN]

As long as Sony sort it out and let their users know exactly what has gone wrong and what they have done to fix it I would be happy.

Dont hold your breath mate! Sony will re-release 2.40 once its sorted, or possibly go straight onto 2.41, but they wont say what was causing the problems and how they fixed it.