Who Says Sebastian Loeb Challenge Is Easy?

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After several people commented that the Sebstian Loeb Challenge was a breeze, I decided to finally try it in hopes of winning the Citroen rally car to use in the (soon to be expired) seasonal event. Well.....using my DFGT wheel, it's a bear! I can't even earn a bronze the car is all over the place and I'm constantly trying to handle the drifting nature of the event. Those that said this challenge was easy.....did you use a wheel or standard controller? Am I missing something or do I just suck?
 
To anwser your question :
1/ I used a controller
2/ You suck :p

Just kidding
I remember trying couple times before getting gold. You just have to know the track and understand the way the cars react.
It was on this event I started to use the roof camera view. Made a huge difference.

The C4 WRC is a great car !
 
SimonK
Those that found it easy probably turned the Skid Recovery Force on.
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that's what I had. this is about the set-up i used
Traction: 3
Stability: off
active steering: mild
Skid recovery: on
ABS: 1
 
No, they probably changed the 4wd bias option in quick tune from road (30F/70R) to whatever suited them for dirt or snow conditions and turn off the other aids except ABS. Also, while your in there, adjust the brake balance too.

The car handles so badly if you don't do this. I got my golds using a DS3 without too much grief.
 
you don't need Skid Recovery Force to win it. I used a controller, ABS = 1,
Traction, all other assists were off. Its a matter of driving the car with as little "drift" as possible. Everyone gets the impression that rally cars needs to go all sideways and all, but take a look at how Sebastien Loeb drives that C4 in real life (youtube), its faster to "drive" through the corner with minimal slip than to "drift" through the corner.
 
MeanElf
No, they probably changed the 4wd bias option in quick tune from road (30F/70R) to whatever suited them for dirt or snow conditions and turn off the other aids except ABS. Also, while your in there, adjust the brake balance too.

The car handles so badly if you don't do this. I got my golds using a DS3 without too much grief.
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It's a ****ing WRC on dirt, what are you expecting ? The handling of the X1 ?

And you clearly dont need to use the quick tune for the Loeb challenges.
You just have to learn your breakpoing points and the challenge is golded.
 
Just because you will watch some movie does not mean you will pass this challenge, just go there and practice practice and practice. And if you still will have some trouble then just switch to Call of Duty
 
I found it completely impossible without the correct aids turned on for DS3, was about 10sec slower than the bronze time on all three but then I used TC: Off, SRF: On, ABS: 1, everything else off, then I was like 8sec quicker than gold, dunno y SRF makes such a difference
 
I am finding the last two difficult, having strangely golded the first one without trying to. I am always a few seconds slow on the eiger nordwand, I haven't really tried the chamonix one but I am using a steering wheel.
 
I can't do it! On eiger i can only manage bronze, and on Chamonix i either crash or end up way to slow! I tried using skid recovery but it made me slower. I can do the snow rally events with no problems though.
 
eiger nordwand - bronze

But the other two I both got gold in comfortably...very strange :(

Any tips for the eiger one would be appreciated too.
 
SimonK
Those that found it easy probably turned the Skid Recovery Force on.
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Probably true, its what I did and golded easy.Skid recovery on TC at 3, ABS 1 DO NOT turn on ASM it will actually stop you in some of the tight turns
 
chouch
It's a ****ing WRC on dirt, what are you expecting ? The handling of the X1 ?

And you clearly dont need to use the quick tune for the Loeb challenges.
You just have to learn your breakpoing points and the challenge is golded.
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Even for dirt vehicles it handles badly, that's all I'm saying. I'd have thought the 'all aids off' bit in my post might have been a clue that I don't like/expect any car to handle like it's on rails - jeez, what got under your skin?

As to the no quick tune option, do you honestly drive a car on dirt or snow with a 30/70 balance?
 
granturismostig
eiger nordwand - bronze

But the other two I both got gold in comfortably...very strange :(

Any tips for the eiger one would be appreciated too.
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It took me numerous tries, but eventually I found that if I could jump through the first series of turns in a reasonably straight manner, and make a quick right, I'd be chasing down the ghost already. Watching the ghost car, I got to a point with Eiger and Chamonix where I stopped paying so much attention to the braking/slowing raceline suggestions and just focused on accell/brake/steering input (what felt/seemed right for the car + surface) and minimizing drift. You might need to rapidly pulse the throttle or brake and keep the car straight, or just reduce from full throttle at times (dont let off completely), but I ended up passing the ghost car a few times in different sections on Eiger and Chamonix. I could only nip at Loeb's heels on Toscana. It's certainly more fun getting gold by several seconds instead of struggling for silver though...

DS3, aids at defaults.
 
Guys, I know what the OP means. Those of you who say it's easy, have done it with SRF on, I'm pretty sure of it. It's impossible to get gold without at least few tries on Eiger and Chamonix.
SRF gives you bonus traction when you are skidding and you are doing this most of the time with a rally car on gravel or ice, so you were getting ridiculous amounts of bonus traction. That's why you found it easy.

With SRF off (the way to be played the game), this event is far from easy. It's not that difficult, but it's a challenge and I am a Colin McRae Rally series fan.

Go retry it and check the SRF setting this time.

To the OP: Make sure TC is OFF. It's not possible with TC. You need full control.
Brake early. Slow in, fast out is to the extreme here.

Don't slide too much, but you SHOULD slide to some extent. Initiate some slide (stab the throttle or turn first to the other direction, etc.), then control the slide with the accelerator. The ideal would be to make (almost) no corrections with the wheel and the nose pointing to the exit of the corner.

Good luck!
 
It's easy without ASR. I posted a video before without ASR. Was 6 seconds faster than the time needed for gold. Again, it's easy.
 
chaosdd
To the OP: Make sure TC is OFF. It's not possible with TC. You need full control.
Brake early. Slow in, fast out is to the extreme here.
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Absolutely what i found - I could not believe how different it felt.
 
dark_ruffo
It's easy without ASR. I posted a video before without ASR. Was 6 seconds faster than the time needed for gold. Again, it's easy.
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ASR stands for Skid Recovery Force or Active Stability Management (ASM)?

These are quite, quite different.
Of course, you should keep ASM off, but were you playing with SRF on or off? I bet it was on if you found it easy. I suggest you go back to the event and retry.
 
chaosdd
To the OP: Make sure TC is OFF. It's not possible with TC. You need full control.
Brake early. Slow in, fast out is to the extreme here.

Don't slide too much, but you SHOULD slide to some extent. Initiate some slide (stab the throttle or turn first to the other direction, etc.), then control the slide with the accelerator. The ideal would be to make (almost) no corrections with the wheel and the nose pointing to the exit of the corner.

Good luck!
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Exactly, in snow the maximum traction is obtained with just a little wheel spin. That way the tires 'digs' on the snow, and then when the tire is in the 'hole' it digged the walls of the hole give you the grip you need, hard to explain myself lol.

But the quoted post is good advice, in all challenges remember you don't need to floor the throttle, throttle control is the key, brake early, you want a good exit, with that in mind it'll be easier to beat. For Chamonix Main I split the torque 50/50 and found it much easier.

Good luck.:)
 
dark_ruffo
I had everything off. ASM RSM DNA ABC whatever.
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Hmm, maybe you didn't know it? I'm still not convinced. I just looked at the video. It definitely looks like you have waaay more traction in certain corners than I remember (did it long ago). Also, the winning margin is too big. As far as I can tell, your lines are far from perfect for such comfortable gold.

May I suggest you go back and retry it, making sure SRF is off?

Anyway, I can be wrong of course, in which case I congratulate you for being very good in this. It took me at least 7 or 8 tries and it was much closer than 6 seconds.
 
No need to lie, man, seriously, I'm sure it was SRF off, it's the first thing I do when I enter any event, turn all the aids but ABS off.

I have the gravel challenge beat by a similar margin. Toscana, though, it's a bit closer, like 2 seconds off the gold.

Set the torque distribution to 50/50 and you'll be laughing at this event.
 
I had all assists off aswell, expect for ABS 1, and I can say I had the same speed at a lot of points in the video dark_ruffo posted, so I can believe when he says he has no assists.
 

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