Why are low effort liveries so popular in showcase?

[km666]

Something I've noticed a lot is that some of the liveries with hundreds or thousands of likes take no more effort than slapping a number plate on an otherwise standard car, case in point, of all the new BX liveries one of the most popular starts and finishes with a Japanese number plate, compared to various really cool heavily customised versions, what's the deal? Are people genuinely impressed by hitting "other" twice in the Livery Editor or does Showcase promote things in strange ways?

 

[Greycap]

Thw sad truth is that most people wouldn't spot quality if it punched them in the face. As a result tons of subpar creations get the "AWESOME!" "SUPER COOL WORK!" etc. comments while good ones mostly only get appreciated by a very small minority.

 

[Mafio]

Sometimes its WHO you know, not what you know...

 

[tankuroded]

Sometimes its WHO you know, not what you know...

Look up the letters "ICRT" and/or "SDRT".

 

[crooky369]

Sometimes the simple ones are the best. Depends on the car really. But a 'mondeo man' car like the BX suits a plain livery that makes the player feel like they're driving the car on the road.

 

[Talon16]

A banana duct taped to the wall as art sold for 6.2 million dollars. I dunno, people are weird.

The iconic 'duct-taped banana' was just auctioned: But why did it cost in million of dollars? - The Times of India

Maurizio Cattelan's 'Comedian,' a banana duct-taped to a wall, sold for $6.2 million at a Sotheby's auction. The artwork, purchased by Justin Sun, spa

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

 

[MatskiMonk]

Something I've noticed a lot is that some of the liveries with hundreds or thousands of likes take no more effort than slapping a number plate on an otherwise standard car, case in point, of all the new BX liveries one of the most popular starts and finishes with a Japanese number plate, compared to various really cool heavily customised versions, what's the deal? Are people genuinely impressed by hitting "other" twice in the Livery Editor or does Showcase promote things in strange ways?

I think the majority of likes are given in the hope they'll be reciprocated. Why waste time finding good liveries if you're just trying to farm likes yourself?

At the end of the day though, it's not worth anything, so it doesn't really matter. If people have farmed thousands of likes for crap liveries, they're only fooling themselves, but at least they're happy. No harm done!

 

[km666]

Oooh secret showcase tags! Well that answers that

 

[ZGBox]

Look up the letters "ICRT" and/or "SDRT".

I honestly never understood what those tags mean. Like, are those belonging to a community of some kind?

 

[eran0004]

Something I've noticed a lot is that some of the liveries with hundreds or thousands of likes take no more effort than slapping a number plate on an otherwise standard car, case in point, of all the new BX liveries one of the most popular starts and finishes with a Japanese number plate, compared to various really cool heavily customised versions, what's the deal? Are people genuinely impressed by hitting "other" twice in the Livery Editor or does Showcase promote things in strange ways?

The BX was just added to the game and it's reasonable to believe that the more simple styles were among the first to be created, which might explain why they got an unproportional amount of likes.

 

[Hasnain282]

Are people genuinely impressed by hitting "other" twice in the Livery Editor or does Showcase promote things in strange ways?

It's not happened with the new cars yet so it's probably a different reason but if your work gets put into the 'recommended' section then the reacts shoot up. I've had it happen with a couple of pictures and the likes went to over 400 whereas usually I only get a few
I don't know if it's an AI that does this or if someone literally goes through every photo but it is a factor

 

[p78]

It is pretty annoying, but i make liveries for me. If i get some likes cool, (getting some recognition is always nice) if i don't, not bothered.
But i get that some people find that annoying, that those wheels and paint liveries score so high.

 

[MatskiMonk]

It is pretty annoying, but i make liveries for me. If i get some likes cool, (getting some recognition is always nice) if i don't, not bothered.
But i get that some people find that annoying, that those wheels and paint liveries score so high.

Bit random, but the link in your sig to your livery page doesn't work for me unless I change the /be-nl/ part to another country.

 

[ShonnDaylee]

It's quite simple, actually. The people who have big numbers on their content (photos/replays/styles/etc...) have spent time building up a large group of followers. Whether that's through social media (usually the case) or in game farming (posting on MANY others content asking for views/likes) or both. Now, you may randomly get one of your uploads a ton of views/likes as it trends for whatever reason. I myself have had 1 or two in the 600 - 1000 likes category, but the majority of mine get between 1 - 6 (I have 71 current followers). So, the key is putting in the work to build up enough of a following that most of what you release gets enough views to get the corresponding likes.

 

[Greycap]

So, the key is putting in the work to build up enough of a following that most of what you release gets enough views to get the corresponding likes.

It still doesn't explain why people like something that took two minutes to make, often with noticably low quality or no taste whatsoever, in the first place. Then again I have Facebook friends who follow absolutely everything they come across and click the like button on similarly everything that gets posted. Must be a similar case here.

 

[ShonnDaylee]

It still doesn't explain why people like something that took two minutes to make, often with noticably low quality or no taste whatsoever, in the first place. Then again I have Facebook friends who follow absolutely everything they come across and click the like button on similarly everything that gets posted. Must be a similar case here.

It actually does. Many followers will give a like to any release from said content creator, both as a show of support, and to potentially farm more likes.

 

[Thorson1987]

It is pretty annoying, but i make liveries for me. If i get some likes cool, (getting some recognition is always nice) if i don't, not bothered.
But i get that some people find that annoying, that those wheels and paint liveries score so high.

Also I prefer comments over likes.

 

[Tornado]

It actually does. Many followers will give a like to any release from said content creator, both as a show of support, and to potentially farm more likes.

There's also evidence of similar behavior right here on GTP, because there was a several year period where this forum had a very similar phenomenon. As soon as someone saw even an inkling of a car existing (even if it was something like a clay model shown off at an auto show or something reposted on the main page of Supercars.net) they would rush into that forum and throw up a thread with the entire website they saw plagiarized into the OP (usually even copying the wildly different formatting from the rest of their post) and maybe two pictures; then the entire rest of their post would be links to other threads they made where they did the same thing so their buddies (who also all did the same thing) could make sure they checked every one those out to slowchat and like farm each other in each one. Their "suggestions" would have wrong specs, be written in a different voice from thread to thread (because they were just copying entire articles they found on the internet), have the wrong car names (because they made the thread before the official name was announced or they misread the one part of the article they skimmed before copying the entire thing into their post) and sometimes wouldn't be for cars that even existed (I recall a couple threads being posted for cars that were rumored to be announced at upcoming auto shows and then never actually did). They didn't care because actually suggesting cars for the future of the franchise wasn't why they were posting. Farming post and like counts was.



I remember at one point people were posting threads for things like "This is an R35 GT-R except it has a different rear spoiler" or "Here's a C1 Corvette except it has a rare optional piece of chrome on it" and each OP would get flooded with likes by the same 15-20 people and derision from everyone else.

 

[wowbaggerBR]

There are some factors, but the main thing is that there are some groups that inflate numbers between their members. So you don't actually find a specific livery good, but as you are part of the group, you will give it likes, comments and repost it so that the whole group will do the same for you.

It's annoying when you are trying to learn how people cope with a specific car because there are pages and pages with nothing of value to get through. I enjoy making liveries, would be happy if mine were more valued, but in the end... who cares?

For me, there are far bigger problems with the Showcase feature: the ammount of time I put in the game editing liveries and sharing them is huge, far higher than any driving, but I don't get anything from it and I really think the game should reward you with something, a small credits pay at the very least.

 

[p78]

Bit random, but the link in your sig to your livery page doesn't work for me unless I change the /be-nl/ part to another country.

I have the same problem. But didn't know other people also had issues.

 

[05XR8]

It’s crazy the amount of Your so great and wow this is cool stuff I get and it’s just a regular livery. Unfortunately, it’s followed with Like me, follow me back, look at my gallery, and this latest one of you have the full support of such and such racing team. Seriously?

 

[MatskiMonk]

the ammount of time I put in the game editing liveries and sharing them is huge, far higher than any driving, but I don't get anything from it and I really think the game should reward you with something, a small credits pay at the very least.

Same problem here, but anything you do to reward a livery maker will only compound the issue with people conspiring to like each others liveries.

 

[wowbaggerBR]

Same problem here, but anything you do to reward a livery maker will only compound the issue with people conspiring to like each others liveries.

You could make the reward almost the same, that way the like count doesn't matter. If they really wanted, they could assess time spend in the editor, use of custom svgs and whatnot in order to be fair when it comes to determine how much each creator should get for a livery.

Another idea would be something like weekly challenges for liveries and photos.

There are multiple ways to make the creative community more engaged, but seems doubtful PD will bother.

 

[Famine]

I was just reminded of this thread...

Yesterday I made a stock-looking Red Bull Junior livery with a bunch of which decals on the body to match the pattern of the standard vehicle's colour variants - with the idea being that you can just colour in the decals to get whatever custom RGB colour you want (and of course gloss/matte/powder finish, but not the various paints).

Scrolling through my Styles to link it on here my attention was caught by a previous car I made:



It's literally just a full-body carbon-fibre "paint" with a couple of standard racing decals on it. 828 likes, 141 shares, 48 comments... Yes, the point is to mimic the GT4 "Black Beauty" but...

 

[HarVee]

I usually don't get anymore than about 20 likes per livery, my highest liked livery has 111 likes currently, and I'm honestly quite proud because it was a livery that I spent a tremendous amount of time on getting all the grunge and dirt effect just right.

 

[ShiftingGears]

I suspect this behaviour is just driven by people who don't use the livery editor and can't be bothered with it

 

[LouTs337]

It still puzzles me, why people like some liveries. Even from people i follow i only like if i think its a nice livery.

Generally would be nice to have like a download counter for the liveries you make or how many races other people used the livery in.

Think forza even gave like in game money or xp when your livery was used? (been a while ago, cant remember for sure)

Hope they improve the discoverability in GT8 a lot.

 

[RACECAR]

There's also evidence of similar behavior right here on GTP, because there was a several year period where this forum had a very similar phenomenon. As soon as someone saw even an inkling of a car existing (even if it was something like a clay model shown off at an auto show or something reposted on the main page of Supercars.net) they would rush into that forum and throw up a thread with the entire website they saw plagiarized into the OP (usually even copying the wildly different formatting from the rest of their post) and maybe two pictures; then the entire rest of their post would be links to other threads they made where they did the same thing so their buddies (who also all did the same thing) could make sure they checked every one those out to slowchat and like farm each other in each one. Their "suggestions" would have wrong specs, be written in a different voice from thread to thread (because they were just copying entire articles they found on the internet), have the wrong car names (because they made the thread before the official name was announced or they misread the one part of the article they skimmed before copying the entire thing into their post) and sometimes wouldn't be for cars that even existed (I recall a couple threads being posted for cars that were rumored to be announced at upcoming auto shows and then never actually did). They didn't care because actually suggesting cars for the future of the franchise wasn't why they were posting. Farming post and like counts was.



I remember at one point people were posting threads for things like "This is an R35 GT-R except it has a different rear spoiler" or "Here's a C1 Corvette except it has a rare optional piece of chrome on it" and each OP would get flooded with likes by the same 15-20 people and derision from everyone else.

Could be mistaken, but wasn't it found out that some of those likes were from multiple accounts of the same guy posting said threads?